'Stunning!' : Unemployment Falls to 13.3% as US Adds 2.5M Jobs Despite Pandemic

[BSfromTX]

yeah, and while it's great to see some bounce back, we all know there's some bad news with housing looming relatively soon.

Also great to see that the unemployment bonus worked as intended and in fact didn't turn people into welfare queens

Commercial real estate is heading for trouble as well

[Play Boban]

We are still going to arrive, in December, at a final count of who died in the US this year. The figures for the population as a whole tend to be VERY predictable.

Given the burden by aging, and opiod epidemic US mortality has been creeping up. What I have seen is an overall predicted rate, pre-COVID of .0088 of the population.

Always room for some variance, but anything substantially over 2.8M people will have a pretty clear cause that will be easy to isolate from the general noise.

Truth nuke

[baseline bum]

Commercial real estate is heading for trouble as well

Sorry about the snarky previous response. Hopefully this will at least bring rents small business owners pay back in line.

[ElNono]

well if thats the case that still pushes back against the narrative that they are purposely underreporting covid as a political play, as is being suggested

Well, true, however, the uninsurance/underinsurance is certainly part of a political agenda.

[koriwhat]

If hospitals aren't over run in 2 weeks by all the protesters/looters/rioters in those lib cities then it's all hyperbolic bull !

Here here to all the looters/rioters dying from covid!!!

[BSfromTX]

Sorry about the snarky previous response. Hopefully this will at least bring rents small business owners pay back in line.

No sweat man. I honestly just want to have reasonable discussions. I know we all disagree at different levels, but I hate no one in here and respect everyones opinion.

[spurraider21]

Well, true, however, the uninsurance/underinsurance is certainly part of a political agenda.

sure but not as part of some effort to downplay covid

[spurraider21]

If hospitals aren't over run in 2 weeks by all the protesters/looters/rioters in those lib cities then it's all hyperbolic bull !

Here here to all the looters/rioters dying from covid!!!

how is it hyperbolic where we've had over 100,000 deaths

[baseline bum]

how is it hyperbolic where we've had over 100,000 deaths

Already have almost as many official deaths as ChumpDumper posts. Might cross over today so I can make Thread's sandwich extra steamy.

[koriwhat]

how is it hyperbolic where we've had over 100,000 deaths

Sit back and shut up lemming

[ElNono]

sure but not as part of some effort to downplay covid

sure.

[CosmicCowboy]

Where are you getting this data?

X2 Base. Can you post your source for pneumonia deaths in Texas by year?

[daslicer]

This is like your car getting totaled in an accident then seeing your headlights are still intact. "Great news the car is badly damage but the headlights are still functioning. The car will be usable again soon."

[ElNono]

This is like your car getting totaled in an accident then seeing your headlights are still intact. "Great news the car is badly damage but the headlights are still functioning. The car will be usable again soon."

"George Floyd really liked those headlights"

[daslicer]

"George Floyd really liked those headlights"

[boutons_deux]

Pootin's Moscow Mitch will use this TINY, questionable decrease in unemployment to justify NO MORE AID for 35M unemployed

[SnakeBoy]

My conspiracy theory is COVID deaths are largely being counted as pneumonia deaths in Texas.

So the doctors are lying and letting people die?

[spurraider21]

So the doctors are lying and letting people die?

i dont know that you'd necessarily have to conclude that doctors "let people die without treatment." lots of people are dying of covid, even with treatment. over 100,000 nationwide. if somebody told me that a couple of thousand people died of covid, but the death certificate says pneumonia, i wouldnt conclude "they didnt treat him" but rather they possibly had a different standard when listing the cause of death. im not saying with any certainty that this is in fact what happened, but i dont think you need to leap to "they let people die on purpose"

[SnakeBoy]

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I wasn't asking you

So San Antonio has ~100 ventilators available for the whole city (shockingly low imo). At no point were we ever close to to using even half of those. At no point have ICU's been overwhelmed, in fact hospitalists are calling pcp's and begging them to let them see their hospital pts because they have no work.

Under bb's conspiracy theory it's all a lie and doctors are letting people go home and die of pneumonia.

Unless he wants to give more details on his conspiracy theory.

[spurraider21]

I wasn't asking you

So San Antonio has ~100 ventilators available for the whole city (shockingly low imo). At no point were we ever close to to using even half of those. At no point have ICU's been overwhelmed, in fact hospitalists are calling pcp's and begging them to let them see their hospital pts because they have no work.

Under bb's conspiracy theory it's all a lie and doctors are letting people go home and die of pneumonia.

Unless he wants to give more details on his conspiracy theory.

why does it matter is i answered or if he answered, as long as your question is answered?

bb's conspiracy theory doesnt require doctors to let people go home and die of pneuomina. it requires doctors to write "pneumonia" as the cause of death after somebody dies from covid

[baseline bum]

So the doctors are lying and letting people die?

Where the are you getting doctors letting die from me saying COVID deaths look like they're being counted as pneumonia deaths in Texas?

[DMC]

I'll concede if you can prove they just shifted their COVID deaths over to pneumonia deaths like Texas and Florida largely seem to have.

You need to prove Texas has "shifted" the deaths before you get the follow up. Prior to testing, people died of symptoms. This is true in many if not all states up to and including New York. So if Texas shifted the deaths to fool the stats, so did all other states.

[DMC]

why does it matter is i answered or if he answered, as long as your question is answered?

bb's conspiracy theory doesnt require doctors to let people go home and die of pneuomina. it requires doctors to write "pneumonia" as the cause of death after somebody dies from covid

Because he's having a discussion, not just googling for answers. Part of the discussion includes finding out what the other person believes to be true, and if that person isn't willing to disclose that, perhaps someone else can take over the discussion. Not all coroners are doctors. Besides if the doctor knows it's COVID but doesn't treat it as such, then he is indeed letting the patient die. If the attending physician didn't know, then the coroner didn't know.

[ElNono]

You need to prove Texas has "shifted" the deaths before you get the follow up. Prior to testing, people died of symptoms. This is true in many if not all states up to and including New York. So if Texas shifted the deaths to fool the stats, so did all other states.

Don't necessarily disagree, but I would add that some states have actually gone back, wherever possible, and tested the deceased for the virus. I know at the very least one instance here in California.

I don't know if this is prevalent in other states.

[DMC]

Don't necessarily disagree, but I would add that some states have actually gone back, wherever possible, and tested the deceased for the virus. I know at the very least one instance here in California.

I don't know if this is prevalent in other states.

You think NY is going to dig up 6 thousand people to fill the stat sheets? How about cremations? Reassembly?