Most Southerners did not own slaves. They fought for their own autonomy.
This is quite a stretch to claim hypocrisy on.
Most Southerners did not own slaves. They fought for their own autonomy.
You can brush off imprisoning thousands of Japanese civilians because you feel like worse things were done.![]()
Treason and murdering US troops is worse.
That still doesn't justify what was done though, does it?
i didnt brush it off. i called it one of the ugliest chapters in our nation's history
but FDR was never an enemy of the United States who declared war against the United States
I didn't say that it was justified.
Yet somehow worthy of a public statue in Manhattan.
Better than traitors who murdered US troops.
Do you agree?
Formal warring is not murder in the first place.
Alsoat your whataboutism cos you can't be consistent.
I'm very consistent.
Treason and murdering US troops -- no statues.
This entire thread is whataboutism. lol derp
K. Tell us why a tyrant like FDR should have a public statue.
Sorry, you started out asking if I think it should be removed.
I don't really care if they make statues for most people. I'm sure people have their reasons. I actively don't want statues of traitors who murdered US troops in placed of honor.
Pretty simple.
Do you understand?
Yes or no.
Formal war is not murder. You fail.
And you want public statues of some tyrants and not others, according to your political marching orders.
Why are you quoting me from the cell service thread?
I don't want statues of traitors who murdered US troops in places of honor.
It wasn't a formal war. It was a rebellion.
Why do you want to venerate traitors, derp? List your reasons.
You just won't condemn it by suggesting to remove an FDR statue?
Nope. Sorry.
Which statues do you want removed and why?
Seems important to you now.
Ha, just about all of them, including FDR. I really don't care either way, but if you feel like statues of confederates should be removed, then the case could be made for many others.
I didn't claim it's uncons utional (even though the SCOTUS later on found in Texas vs White that it indeed is, but it's a distraction on a claim I didn't make), just that under a democratic system, secession is not how you fight for state rights.
Your state is represented along with others in Congress, that's the venue where you assert your grievances, not armed conflict.
If they are statues of traitors who murdered US troops, you got my vote.
Where's your list of those that aren't confederates?
FDR and Woodrow Wilson for starters. Killed thousands of US soldiers entering wars we had no business in.
Sorry, that's Congress. You got a lot of names to compile from those.
Wow, you’re gonna split that hair? Sure, you win, those dudes didn’t want that war at all, huh?
It's your list of statues, dude. You'll have to include anyone who volunteered for either war too. You'll need to take down the Marine Iwo Jima memorial in DC, etc.
Good luck.
Even though the authoritarian SC pulled out of their ass at a later date, I know.
Talk of succession was commonplace between 1776 and 1861. It was understood that secession was a viable option.
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