Texas response to Corona virus

[ChumpDumper]

Because congregate living has no bearing on pandemic tracking. Just like probable cases.

that's incredibly stupid of you.

[RandomGuy]

Our hospitals are not going to be overwhelmed. It's not difficult.

saving this post too. I hope you are right, but if you are not, I am going to rub your nose in this pile.

[RandomGuy]

He can't be that stupid. He's just an unemployed boomer. Probably disabled or something, and sits home all day trolling this forum. He's going to reply to this and your post with the same out of context numbers then go off on some unrelated, misinformed tangent about something else, repeating what he's been posting ad nauseam in his troll arguments with all the users on his dislike list.

He was quite that stupid. He said we had X beds, implying we shoudln't worry, and when I asked him what kind of beds he was talking about, he changd the subject.

He didn't know how the data was compiled, and neither did DarrinS as I am going to point out.

https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/sho...1#post10172420

[RandomGuy]

Galveston county is the only county in Texas where covid patients exceeded 10% of hospital bed capacity.

Average across the state is 6.3%

You can't tell the difference between this "hospital bed":


(NICU)



and this "hospital bed":


(ICU)




and these "hospital beds"

(psychiatric from an actual psych hospital in SA)


Only one of those is going to help someone whose lungs stop functioning, those are the beds you need to count and pay attention to.

On what measure of "hospital beds" are you basing this on?

Is your percentage based on ALL beds or all AVAILABLE beds, because "beds" are normally about 64% full most of the time?

[TimDunkem]

He was quite that stupid. He said we had X beds, implying we shoudln't worry, and when I asked him what kind of beds he was talking about, he changd the subject.

He didn't know how the data was compiled, and neither did DarrinS as I am going to point out.

https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/sho...1#post10172420

Damn. Honestly though, I don't think he even reads most of what he responds too. Thankfully, the ignore button has allowed me to do the same.

You need to be a special kind of idiot to be the one user who is on just about everyone's ignore list. Not even long time forum knuckle-draggers like ducks or Derp can say that.

[RandomGuy]

Link to either stat?

The most recent utilization report I could find listed for 2016 showed 5396 total beds for Bexar county, with 64.5% occupied. 1917 beds four years ago, likely before a few were scaled back due to closures or consolidations, or even just more utilization for existing due to population growth.
https://www.dshs.state.tx.us/chs/hosp/Utilization16.xls (line 60, H60 *O60)

Those 1917 beds include ALL beds of every kind, i.e. maternity etc, and is probably a bit lower in 2020. You can't really count a maternity ward bed as being "available" for a covid patient who needs a respirator, so you are probably looking at a pretty narrow slice of beds in the total that actually could be used appropriately. I doubt the "adult day-care" beds help either.

FWIW: here is the non-comprehensive list of bed types included in that total:
1. General medical-surgical care ......................(#Beds: )
2. Pediatric medical-surgical care .....................(#Beds: )
3. Obstetrics [Level of unit (1-3): ( )] ........(#Beds: )
4. Medical surgical intensive care .....................(#Beds: )
5. Cardiac intensive care .................................(#Beds: )
6. Neonatal intensive care ...............................(#Beds: )
7. Neonatal intermediate care ..........................(#Beds: )
8. Pediatric intensive care ...............................(#Beds: )
9. Burn care .................................................( #Beds: )
10. Other special care (specify: )(#Beds: )
11. Other intensive care (specify: ..........(#Beds: )
12. Physical rehabilitation .................................(#Beds: )
13. Alcoholism-drug abuse or dependency care ....(#Beds: )
14. Psychiatric care .........................................(#Beds: )
15. Skilled nursing care ....................................(#Beds: )
16. Intermediate nursing care ............................(#Beds: )
17. Acute long-term care ..................................(#Beds: )
18. Other long- term care ................................(#Beds: )
19. Other care (specify: ) ............... .(#Beds: ( )
20. Adult day care program ................................................
21. Airborne infection isolation room (# rooms ) ..........
22. Alcoholism-drug abuse or dependency outpatient services .................................................. .........................
23. Alzheimer center............................................ ..............
24. Ambulance services.......................................... ............
25. Ambulatory surgery center ............................................
26. Arthritis treatment center .............................................
27. Assisted living .................................................. ...........
28. Auxiliary .................................................. ...................
29. Bariatric/weight control services ....................................
30. Birthing room/LDR room/LDRP room ..............................
31. Blood donor center .................................................. .....
32. Breast cancer screening/mammograms ..........................
33. Cardiology and cardiac surgery services
a. Adult cardiology services ..........................................
b. Pediatric cardiology services ......................................
c. Adult diagnostic catheterization .................................
d. Pediatric diagnostic catheterization ............................
e. Adult interventional cardiac catheterization .................
f. Pediatric interventional cardiac catheterization .............
g. Adult cardiac surgery ...............................................
h. Pediatric cardiac surgery ...........................................
i. Adult cardiac electrophysiology ...................................
j. Pediatric cardiac electrophysiology ..............................
k. Cardiac rehabilitation ...............................................
34. Case management .................................................. .....
35. Chaplaincy/pastoral care services ..................................
36. Chemotherapy .................................................. ...........
37. Children’s wellness program ..........................................
38. Chiropractic services .................................................. ..
39. Community outreach .................................................. ..
40. Complementary and alternative medicine services ...........
41. Computer assisted orthopedic surgery (CAOS) ...............
42. Crisis prevention .................................................. ........
43. Dental services .................................................. ..........
44. Emergency services
a. Emergency department ..............................................
b. Pediatric emergency department ................................
c. Satellite emergency department ..................................
e. Trauma center (certified) [Level of unit (1-4): ] .................................................. ......................
45. Enabling services .................................................. .......
46. Endoscopic services
a. Optical colonoscopy ..................................................
b Endoscopic ultrasound ...............................................
c. Ablation of Barrett’s eso us .................................
e. Endoscopic retrograde cholangiopancreatography (ERCP) .................................................. ...............................
47. Enrollment (insurance) assistance services .....................
48. Extracorporeal shock wave lithotripter (ESWL) ...........
49. Fertility clinic .................................................. ......
50. Fitness center .................................................. .....
51. Freestanding outpatient care center .........................
52. Geriatric services ..................................................
53. Health fair .................................................. ..........
54. Community health education ...................................
55. Genetic testing/counseling ......................................
56. Health screenings ..................................................
57. Health research.......................................... ...........
58. Hemodialysis… .................................................. .....
59. HIV/AIDS services ..................................................
60. Home health services ..............................................
61. Ho e program .................................................. ..
62. Hospital-based outpatient care center services ...........
63. Immunization program ............................................
64. Indigent care clinic .................................................
65. Linguistic/translation services..................................
66. Meals on wheels .................................................. ...
67. Mobile health services .............................................
68. Neurological services ..............................................
69. Nutrition program .................................................. .
70. Occupational health services ....................................
71. Oncology services.......................................... .........
72. Orthopedic services ................................................
73. Outpatient surgery .................................................
74. Pain management program ......................................
75. Palliative care program........................................... .
76. Palliative care inpatient unit .....................................
77. Patient controlled analgesia (PCA) ............................
78. Patient education center ..........................................
79. Patient representative services .................................
80. Physical rehabilitation services
a. Assistive technology center ........................................
b. Electrodiagnostic services ..........................................
c. Physical rehabilitation outpatient services .....................
d. Prosthetic and orthotic services ..................................
e. Robot-assisted walking therapy ..................................
f. Simulated rehabilitation environment ...........................
81. Primary care department…………………………………..
82. Psychiatric services:
a. Psychiatric child-adolescent services ........................
b. Psychiatric consultation-liaison services ....................
c. Psychiatric education services .................................
d. Psychiatric emergency services ...............................
e. Psychiatric geriatric services ...................................
f. Psychiatric outpatient services .................................
g. Psychiatric partial hospitalization program ................
h. Psychiatric residential treatment…………………………
83. Radiology, diagnostic:
a. CT scanner .................................................. ..............
b. Diagnostic radioisotope facility......................................
c. Electron beam computed tomography (EBCT) .................
d. Full-field digital mammography (FFDM) .........................
e. Magnetic resonance imaging (MRI)................................
f. Intraoperative magnetic resonance imaging ....................
g. Magnetoencephalography (MEG) ...................................
h. Multi-slice spiral computed tomography (<64+ slice CT) .................................................. ..................
i. Multi-slice spiral computed tomography (64+ slice CT) .................................................. ..........................
j. Positron emission tomography (PET) ..............................
k. Positron emission tomography/CT (PET/CT) ...................
l. Single photon emission computerized tomography SPECT) .................................................. ...
m. Ultrasound .................................................. ..............
84. Radiology, therapeutic
a. Image-guided radiation therapy (IGRT) ............................
b. Intensity-modulated radiation therapy (IMRT) ...................
c. Proton beam therapy .................................................. ...
d. Shaped beam radiation system .......................................
e. Stereotactic radiosurgery ...............................................
85. Retirement housing .................................................. .......
86. Robotic surgery .................................................. ............
87. Rural health clinic .................................................. .........
88. Sleep center .................................................. .................
89. Social work services .................................................. ......
90. Sports medicine .................................................. ...........
91. Support groups .................................................. ............
92. Swing bed services .................................................. .......
93. Teen outreach services ................................................

Remainder here at the data call definition sheet (PDF):
https://dshs.texas.gov/chs/hosp/Forms/AHA16.pdf

So unless you have some specific data on which beds might be useful, talking about total beds is kind of ed. My guess is that the news source showing a small number of beds probably has that specific data.




If that is your figure, you think that "sports medicine" beds are going to save people who need ICU beds and ventilators? maybe Full-field digital mammography beds?

Do tell. How many of your total are actually going to be useful here. Bull has been called.

[TimDunkem]

You can't tell the difference between this "hospital bed":


(NICU)



and this "hospital bed":


(ICU)




and these "hospital beds"

(psychiatric from an actual psych hospital in SA)


Only one of those is going to help someone whose lungs stop functioning, those are the beds you need to count and pay attention to.

On what measure of "hospital beds" are you basing this on?

Misinterpreting Covid data is a no-no until you're doing it to serve a point about hospital beds!

Maybe Darrin is just a midget and can fit on one of those NICU beds so it counts to him?

[tholdren]

He was quite that stupid. He said we had X beds, implying we shoudln't worry, and when I asked him what kind of beds he was talking about, he changd the subject.

He didn't know how the data was compiled, and neither did DarrinS as I am going to point out.

https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/sho...1#post10172420

Lol you said usa would run out of hospital capacity. Not 1 time. But again. And the listed all the beds. Lololllololol

Hahhahahahahahahahhahahahahhahahahahahayyayaya

Just wait 2 weeks.

This guy is hilarious

[tholdren]

Lol RandomGuy when will hospitals be overcapacity?

You still using neil furguson models



Lolololololo just say it every day and who knows in a few years you may be correct

[boutons_deux]

NY under Cuomo is doing great, otoh, TX and other hole Repug states ...

https://rt.live/?fbclid=IwAR2SuH8Qib...2i2x4lLQiLpzRs

[tholdren]

did you know that there is a 0 pct growth in houston area icu occupancy trend?

RandomGuy where you at with those list of beds. Covid icu occupancy at 17 pct.


Yikes!

[tholdren]

did you know that the Houston area has 10% total bed occupancy from covid?


Get that list of beds.

[Blake]

did you know that the Houston area has 10% total bed occupancy from covid?


Get that list of beds.

"Houston-area health officials say we have plenty of room in our hospitals, as a whole. However, they say some individual hospitals have been overwhelmed.

"Yesterday morning at 9 a.m., four of the hospitals were saying that they were saturated already, so that was 9 o’clock in the morning on a Monday, we usually don't see that in the summertime," Dr. David Persse, Houston Public Health Authority said.

Those hospitals were full and were asking ambulances to go elsewhere."

https://www.khou.com/article/news/he...a-96d4c5f98457

You're an idiot

[TimDunkem]

^Welp, that seals it. Bumdren was wrong yet again.

[koriwhat]

Lol RandomGuy when will hospitals be overcapacity?

Well seeing how tranny's can get their s needlessly cut off rn those beds will stay empty.

[tholdren]

"Houston-area health officials say we have plenty of room in our hospitals, as a whole. However, they say some individual hospitals have been overwhelmed.

"Yesterday morning at 9 a.m., four of the hospitals were saying that they were saturated already, so that was 9 o’clock in the morning on a Monday, we usually don't see that in the summertime," Dr. David Persse, Houston Public Health Authority said.

Those hospitals were full and were asking ambulances to go elsewhere."

https://www.khou.com/article/news/he...a-96d4c5f98457

You're an idiot

https://www.tmc.edu/coronavirus-upda...pitalizations/

No. You just can't do simple math. Keep gossiping.

[RandomGuy]

"Houston-area health officials say we have plenty of room in our hospitals, as a whole. However, they say some individual hospitals have been overwhelmed.

"Yesterday morning at 9 a.m., four of the hospitals were saying that they were saturated already, so that was 9 o’clock in the morning on a Monday, we usually don't see that in the summertime," Dr. David Persse, Houston Public Health Authority said.

Those hospitals were full and were asking ambulances to go elsewhere."

https://www.khou.com/article/news/he...a-96d4c5f98457

You're an idiot

He can't tell the difference between a teen outreach bed and ICU bed.

here is a partial list of beds he is including in his total:

3. Obstetrics [Level of unit (1-3): ( )] ........(#Beds: )
6. Neonatal intensive care ...............................(#Beds: )
7. Neonatal intermediate care ..........................(#Beds: )
8. Pediatric intensive care ...............................(#Beds: )
10. Other special care (specify: )(#Beds: )
11. Other intensive care (specify: ..........(#Beds: )
12. Physical rehabilitation .................................(#Beds: )
13. Alcoholism-drug abuse or dependency care ....(#Beds: )
14. Psychiatric care .........................................(#Beds: )
118. Other long- term care ................................(#Beds: )
19. Other care (specify: ) ............... .(#Beds: ( )
20. Adult day care program ................................................
22. Alcoholism-drug abuse or dependency outpatient services .................................................. .........................
23. Alzheimer center............................................ ..............
26. Arthritis treatment center .............................................
27. Assisted living .................................................. ...........
28. Auxiliary .................................................. ...................
29. Bariatric/weight control services ....................................
30. Birthing room/LDR room/LDRP room ..............................
31. Blood donor center .................................................. .....
32. Breast cancer screening/mammograms ..........................
33. Cardiology and cardiac surgery services
a. Adult cardiology services ..........................................
b. Pediatric cardiology services ......................................
c. Adult diagnostic catheterization .................................
d. Pediatric diagnostic catheterization ............................
e. Adult interventional cardiac catheterization .................
f. Pediatric interventional cardiac catheterization .............
g. Adult cardiac surgery ...............................................
h. Pediatric cardiac surgery ...........................................
i. Adult cardiac electrophysiology ...................................
j. Pediatric cardiac electrophysiology ..............................
k. Cardiac rehabilitation ...............................................
34. Case management .................................................. .....
35. Chaplaincy/pastoral care services ..................................
36. Chemotherapy .................................................. ...........
37. Children’s wellness program ..........................................
38. Chiropractic services .................................................. ..
39. Community outreach .................................................. ..
40. Complementary and alternative medicine services ...........
41. Computer assisted orthopedic surgery (CAOS) ...............
42. Crisis prevention .................................................. ........
43. Dental services .................................................. ..........
44. Emergency services
a. Emergency department ..............................................
b. Pediatric emergency department ................................
c. Satellite emergency department ..................................
e. Trauma center (certified) [Level of unit (1-4): ] .................................................. ......................
45. Enabling services .................................................. .......
46. Endoscopic services
a. Optical colonoscopy ..................................................
b Endoscopic ultrasound ...............................................
c. Ablation of Barrett’s eso us .................................
e. Endoscopic retrograde cholangiopancreatography (ERCP) .................................................. ...............................
47. Enrollment (insurance) assistance services .....................
48. Extracorporeal shock wave lithotripter (ESWL) ...........
49. Fertility clinic .................................................. ......
50. Fitness center .................................................. .....
51. Freestanding outpatient care center .........................
52. Geriatric services ..................................................
53. Health fair .................................................. ..........
54. Community health education ...................................
55. Genetic testing/counseling ......................................
56. Health screenings ..................................................
57. Health research.......................................... ...........
58. Hemodialysis… .................................................. .....
59. HIV/AIDS services ..................................................
60. Home health services ..............................................
61. Ho e program .................................................. ..
62. Hospital-based outpatient care center services ...........
63. Immunization program ............................................
64. Indigent care clinic .................................................
65. Linguistic/translation services..................................
66. Meals on wheels .................................................. ...
67. Mobile health services .............................................
68. Neurological services ..............................................
69. Nutrition program .................................................. .
70. Occupational health services ....................................
71. Oncology services.......................................... .........
72. Orthopedic services ................................................
73. Outpatient surgery .................................................
74. Pain management program ......................................
75. Palliative care program........................................... .
76. Palliative care inpatient unit .....................................
77. Patient controlled analgesia (PCA) ............................
78. Patient education center ..........................................
79. Patient representative services .................................
80. Physical rehabilitation services
a. Assistive technology center ........................................
b. Electrodiagnostic services ..........................................
c. Physical rehabilitation outpatient services .....................
d. Prosthetic and orthotic services ..................................
e. Robot-assisted walking therapy ..................................
f. Simulated rehabilitation environment ...........................
81. Primary care department…………………………………..
82. Psychiatric services:
a. Psychiatric child-adolescent services ........................
b. Psychiatric consultation-liaison services ....................
c. Psychiatric education services .................................
d. Psychiatric emergency services ...............................
e. Psychiatric geriatric services ...................................
f. Psychiatric outpatient services .................................
g. Psychiatric partial hospitalization program ................
h. Psychiatric residential treatment…………………………
83. Radiology, diagnostic:
a. CT scanner .................................................. ..............
b. Diagnostic radioisotope facility......................................
c. Electron beam computed tomography (EBCT) .................
d. Full-field digital mammography (FFDM) .........................
e. Magnetic resonance imaging (MRI)................................
f. Intraoperative magnetic resonance imaging ....................
g. Magnetoencephalography (MEG) ...................................
h. Multi-slice spiral computed tomography (<64+ slice CT) .................................................. ..................
i. Multi-slice spiral computed tomography (64+ slice CT) .................................................. ..........................
j. Positron emission tomography (PET) ..............................
k. Positron emission tomography/CT (PET/CT) ...................
l. Single photon emission computerized tomography SPECT) .................................................. ...
m. Ultrasound .................................................. ..............
84. Radiology, therapeutic
a. Image-guided radiation therapy (IGRT) ............................
b. Intensity-modulated radiation therapy (IMRT) ...................
c. Proton beam therapy .................................................. ...
d. Shaped beam radiation system .......................................
e. Stereotactic radiosurgery ...............................................
85. Retirement housing .................................................. .......
86. Robotic surgery .................................................. ............
87. Rural health clinic .................................................. .........
88. Sleep center .................................................. .................
89. Social work services .................................................. ......
90. Sports medicine .................................................. ...........
91. Support groups .................................................. ............
92. Swing bed services .................................................. .......
93. Teen outreach services ................................................

Maybe you should ask him how "teen outreach service" beds or "blood donor" beds are gong to help the COVID patients.

[DarrinS]

RG still thinks our system will be overwhelmed.

You DO know that people recover, right?

[tholdren]

RG still thinks our system will be overwhelmed.

You DO know that people recover, right?

He does not. Nor does he understand the problem with pre-screening for hospital care, not does he understand total beds, census, capacity etc.

He copies a headline that uses data without properly understanding.
Texas was down 46 percent today fatalities are flat. There is some growth but its just like the ships in ny. Unnecessary gossip

[tholdren]

Wonder why texas stopped counting fatalities by age at 664 deaths?

[tholdren]

NEWSPOLITICS

Texas coronavirus totals jump due to 1,500 previously excluded state prison infectionsCOVID-19 outbreaks at units in two Texas counties were not previously included in statewide tallies

[tholdren]

Oh boy. People are now thinking about these raw numbers and the meaning behind them.
Lol
Chumpdump RandomGuy and TimDunkem lol

[RandomGuy]

RG still thinks our system will be overwhelmed.

You DO know that people recover, right?

I don't know if it will be, but thanks for lying about what I think.

That is part of what I have been trying to get at here.

What percent of available ICU beds are going filled?

If you look back a few pages, you will see a rough back of the envelope calc I did, and concluded we seemed to be fine for now. I can find the link for you.

Positivity rates can tell us whether a state’s testing capacity is sufficient. Ideally, a state should be meeting or exceeding the recommended positivity rate, which the WHO has set at 5%. A positivity rate over 5% indicates a state may only be testing the sickest patients who seek out medical care, and are not casting a wide enough net to identify milder cases and track outbreaks.

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/testing/tracker/overview

Texas postive rate is at about 7% by the last batch. It seems to be getting away from us, and with reopening, we don't seem to have the things in place that will stop it.

Dunno. Give it a few weeks to develop. It will accelerate as compound interest generally does. 1.03*1.03*1.03*1.03...

[koriwhat]

It's funny because those I call weak males and pussies are also those crying about wanting to police everyone. Yall are exactly the pussies I claim yall to be.

[RandomGuy]

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