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    There's no silent majority or anything like that. Trump wins in the rust belt are directly correlated to his anti-globalization rhetoric, and running a populist/socialist agenda like protectionism, cheap healthcare, his hedge fund buddies having to take a hit, etc.

    It's clear he didn't deliver on any of that, and he won't. The economy crashing isn't going to help him either. The economy was actually pretty great, comparatively speaking, in '16.

    But, as usual, turnout and disenfranchising attempts are going to be key in swing states.

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    There's no silent majority or anything like that.
    Depends which region you call home but I am firm believer in the silent majority. Saw it first play out in 2004. Most people prefer to not discuss politics/social issues in public around non-friends/family.

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    Do you suppose all those backwoods voters suddenly died off of Covid or something? They still exist and 99.9% are still voting Trump and being less than candid about it when asked.
    Ok. But what about the ones who didn't vote? These are the people who are voting this time.

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    Depends which region you call home but I am firm believer in the silent majority. Saw it first play out in 2004. Most people prefer to not discuss politics/social issues in public around non-friends/family.
    But they do, 2016 notwithstanding. I mean, I know it's easy to just disregard polling, but in aggregate, they're statistically largely correct.

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    There's no silent majority or anything like that. Trump wins in the rust belt are directly correlated to his anti-globalization rhetoric, and running a populist/socialist agenda like protectionism, cheap healthcare, his hedge fund buddies having to take a hit, etc.

    It's clear he didn't deliver on any of that, and he won't. The economy crashing isn't going to help him either. The economy was actually pretty great, comparatively speaking, in '16.

    But, as usual, turnout and disenfranchising attempts are going to be key in swing states.

    He promised to open up mines and factories too, which never happened

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    But they do, 2016 notwithstanding. I mean, I know it's easy to just disregard polling, but in aggregate, they're statistically largely correct.
    I think social media has leveled the playing field. I am certain there are Trump voters that politically only subscribe to his tweets.

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    All depends on how many of those non voters reside in Ohio, FLA, Michigan, etc.

    Ok. But what about the ones who didn't vote? These are the people who are voting this time.

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    He promised to open up mines and factories too, which never happened
    Kind of hard to do when those jobs are old fashioned and largely untenable.

    I liken mining to someone still using windows 7. Party's over, you have a grace period before the system is completely obsolete. Trump knows this, but his base doesnt.

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    Joe Biden Is Now Beating Trump In Both Texas And Georgia


    https://www.politicususa.com/2020/06...s-georgia.html

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    All depends on how many of those non voters reside in Ohio, FLA, Michigan, etc.
    the black voters that stayed home in Michigan in 2016 are probably not staying home again

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    Trump May Attempt To Force Long-Time H-1B Visa Holders Out Of U.S.

    June 22, 2020,
    presidential proclamation suggests a plan that, if pursued and implemented, could drive hundreds of thousands of long-time H-1B visa holders out of the United States.

    The plan, on the wish list of anti-immigration organizations,

    is to

    force foreign nationals waiting years for employment-based green cards to go through the “labor certification” process again

    in the hopes many will not succeed.


    The regulation or policy change would aim to force highly skilled Indian, Chinese and Filipino nationals to leave the United States en masse – in effect,

    deportation from America of many of the world’s most talented people.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/stuartanderson/2020/06/25/trump-may-attempt-to-force-long-time-h-1b-visa-holders-out-of-us/#66a98ebd3ce5



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    the black voters that stayed home in Michigan in 2016 are probably not staying home again
    If they're allowed to vote, sure

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    If they're allowed to vote, sure
    Well they have a dem governor so that would be a disaster if they weren’t allowed to.

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    DOJ Ethics Office

    Says Bill Barr Can Investigate Political Enemies Under False Pretext


    a remarkable finding that was disclosed in passing, it was revealed: The Justice Department’s internal ethics watchdog has concluded that there is nothing wrong with the attorney general launching entirely “pretextual” investigations.

    testified that Attorney General William Barr’s personal animus had prompted a series of

    investigations into mergers in the cannabis industry Barr HATES mj

    and that an angry tweet from Trump had led to an

    investigation into emissions agreements between car companies and the state of California.

    OPR concluded that nothing improper had occurred

    and summarized its findings in a
    two-page summary that was publicly disclosed late Wednesday.

    The memo was signed by the head of the office, who is

    a career official who was
    appointed to the position by Barr last month.

    https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/06/doj-ethics-office-william-barr-can-investigate-political-enemies.html



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    Well they have a dem governor so that would be a disaster if they weren’t allowed to.
    It's a federal election, and I expect things like mail in ballots to be contested. Maybe I should've said "if their votes are counted", but you know what I mean.

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    Kind of hard to do when those jobs are old fashioned and largely untenable.

    I liken mining to someone still using windows 7. Party's over, you have a grace period before the system is completely obsolete. Trump knows this, but his base doesnt.
    Like your male genitalia?

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    Trump ridiculed after ‘devastating’ Fox News poll shows him trailing Joe Biden — in four ex-Confederate states


    https://www.rawstory.com/2020/06/trump-ridiculed-after-devastating-fox-news-poll-shows-him-trailing-joe-biden-in-four-ex-confederate-states/

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    Judge rejects Trump family attempt to block tell-all book


    https://theweek.com/speedreads/922171/judge-rejects-trump-family-attempt-block-tellall-book

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    Trump Suggests Navy Sent $5 Billion to Wisconsin Firm to Help Him Win Election

    a confession that his administration is

    corruptly using federal funds to boost his re-election campaign,

    President Donald Trump told workers at a shipyard in Wisconsin on Thursday that

    “one of the big factors” in the Navy awarding a $5.5 billion contract to their firm was, “your location in Wisconsin,

    if you want to know the truth.

    https://theintercept.com/2020/06/25/...-win-election/


    WI unemployment rate in The Trump Pandemic: 14.1%



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    Trump predicts Joe Biden victory during Fox News interview:

    ‘He’s gonna be your president’

    https://www.rawstory.com/2020/06/tru...8460&list_id=1

    Trash WINS over The Trump Pandemic

    Trash WINS over " ing Joe Biden"

    So much WINNING Trash is sick of WINNING


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    Worries over the ‘mental acuity’ of the president

    after
    ‘complete gibberish’ interview on Fox News


    Trump falsely claimed

    there would not be any COVID-19 cases were it not for testing to detect the pandemic.

    Trump also
    predicted Joe Biden would win the 2020 presidential race

    bragged about being “
    the most perfect person.”


    Trump flopped after being asked his priorities for a second term.

    https://www.rawstory.com/2020/06/worries-over-the-mental-acuity-of-the-president-after-complete-gibberish-interview-on-fox-news/

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    Wall Street Journal Editorial Board Buries Trump in Devastating Commentary:

    He’s ‘Reverted To His Worst Form’



    Wall Street Journal Editorial Board ripped President Donald Trump in a scathing op-ed Thursday night

    for the president’s lack of a second-term plan and

    reverting to his “worst form”

    four months before the 2020 election against
    Joe Biden.

    "Lately he has all but given up even talking about the pandemic

    when he might offer realism and hope about the road ahead even as the country reopens.

    His default now is defensive self-congratulation.

    The country also wants firm but empathetic leadership after the death of George Floyd, but Mr.

    Trump offers combative tweets that inflame.

    Not long ago Mr. Trump tweeted that a 75-year old man who was pushed by police in Buffalo might be an antifa activist. He offered no evidence.


    Americans don’t like racial enmity and they want their President to reduce it.

    Mr. Trump has preached racial harmony on occasion, but

    he gives it all back with riffs that misjudge the national moment.

    His “law and order” message might resonate if disorder and rioting continue through the summer,

    but only if Mr. Trump is also talking about racial reconciliation and opportunity for all.


    Mr. Trump has little time to recover.

    The President’s advisers say that he trailed Hillary Clinton by this much at this point in 2016,

    that they haven’t had a chance to define Mr. Biden, and

    that as the election nears voters will understand the binary choice.

    Perhaps.

    But in 2016 Mrs. Clinton was as unpopular as Mr. Trump,

    while Mr. Biden is not."

    https://www.mediaite.com/print/wall-...is-worst-form/



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