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Because Dear Leader needs to be able to pretend the country is doing great. It's not her job to get herself killed.
If she's a 60 year fat with Comorbidities then no, she shouldn't go back to teaching and should find another job or retire. If she's under 60 and healthy then she needs to get back to work and do her ing job.
Because Dear Leader needs to be able to pretend the country is doing great. It's not her job to get herself killed.
Show me where 10-17 transmit the virus at rates that approach that of adults...stop being lazy.
And stop spamming multiple threads with your fake news.
“The science should not stand in the way of this, And as Dr. Scott Atlas said — I thought this was a good quote — ‘Of course we can do it. Everyone else in the Western world, our peer nations, are doing it. We are the outlier here.’ The science is very clear on this — that, you know, for instance, you look at the [Journal of the American Medical Association's] pediatric study of 46 pediatric hospitals in North America that said the risk of critical illness from COVID is far less for children than that of seasonal flu. The science is on our side here. We encourage for localities and states to just simply follow the science. Open our schools.
Why would libertarians give a about the first amendment?
The science says don't pack yourself into indoor spaces with other people for extended periods.
'Riddled With Lies': Analysis Finds Fox News Covid-19 Coverage Featured Misinformation 253 Times in Just Five Days
The network, said an MMFA researcher, "downplays the threat of the virus, dismisses the recommendations of public health officials, and misrepresents the scientific consensus on the disease."
You need to wait for RG to confirm or deny her being a 60 year old fat with Comorbidities before thinking her job will get her killed.
True for adults bu untrue for children, as the science has proven.
Packing yourself tightly into indoor spaces with 160 other people sounds like a great idea as Texas is a raging COVID inferno
That was in the links that you yourself posted.But sure, because I am not a lazy like you, I will get you the quote. Have to give me enough time to thumb back through them to find it.
The older they are, the closer to adults rates. I would also point out that 18 year olds go to high school. Most of my graduating class was 18. My eldest will turn 18 before he graduates as well.
Tsa denying science
True for children too or we wouldn't be having outbreaks at daycares and summer camps.
YEAH BUT WE LET PROTESTERS PROTEST. SAME THING
The supposed greatest fear Libertarians have is federal overreach of anything. Even if these protesters were burning babies in the streets, the Federal Government has NO RIGHT to intervene. Trump sent in the DHS driving around in unmarked vans to round up protesters. They were dressed in full camo with a generic "Police" patch. No badge number, names, no reading of rights, nothing.
And not a peep.
https://www.newsweek.com/trump-accus...-stunt-1518595
Masks don't work?
Show me a study showing children being a high risk of passing it on to other children and adults. Every study done so far proves the opposite.
It's like everything is black and white with you Trump s.
Take down trump baby gates and open the White House, then we can talk about schools.
seriously, do you ever think about this before you post?
So following your links...
https://www.bfmtv.com/societe/educat...005120083.html"Beyond 10-12 years, a study by the Ins ut Pasteur has shown that there, at that time, adolescents find the profile of parents, and they can indeed be both vectors and transmitters, ”he adds. The epidemiological study in question, published on April 23, had been conducted in a high school in Crépy-en-Valois, in Oise, an epicenter of the epidemic in France.
"The risk of being infected in the home went from 9% to 17% for parents if the student was infected, and from 3% to 21% for siblings," said the study.
According to Professor Arnaud Fontanet, first author of the text and head of the Epidemiology of Emerging Diseases Unit at the Ins ut Pasteur in Paris, "high school students are closer to adults for the capacity to transmit the virus than to children".
Jules Pecnard
First hit. References the same studies you are citing.
Started with your first linkr:
Clicked on the hyperlinks trying to find the underlying studies, found the hit above.
I'll keep going.
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I remember your article where the guy wouldn't touch the day care center outbreaks with a ten foot pole.
Second link was just an interview. Nothing on adolescents there.
Third link:
the rate for adolescents were higher. didn't really say how much. Linked references behind paywall...Conclulsions:
In a population-based study in Iceland, children under 10 years of age and females had a lower incidence of SARS-CoV-2 infection than adolescents or adults and males.
Moving on.
Some garbage from April, and not really a scientific paper. In fact it doesn't cite a single scientific refernce, other than a government statement about "Very young people"
Sloppy, but par for your ing spam linkathons. If memory serves "enfants" is never used for post-pubescents anyways. That would have clued you in, if you had any French proficiency.
So far we are batting zero for your statement that "children" are immune.
Looks like in your laziness you didn't understand your material well enough to understand that it meant "under 10".
Moving on.
Nice to see you finally putting some work in. Were the high schoolers in question wearing masks?
So following your links...
https://www.bfmtv.com/societe/educat...005120083.html
First hit. References the same studies you are citing.
Started with your first linkr:
Clicked on the hyperlinks trying to find the underlying studies, found the hit above.
I'll keep going.
Here's another study from Ins ut Pasteur
An epidemiological survey of 1,340 people linked to primary schools in Crépy-en-Valois, in the Oise department, conducted in late April 2020 found that based on some cases of infection detected in the students before the schools closed, it appears that the children did not spread the infection to other students or to teachers or other staff at the schools.
The survey was carried out by scientists at the Ins ut Pasteur, with the support of the Hauts-de-France Regional Health Agency and the Amiens Education Authority. The survey, which made use of serological tests developed by the Ins ut Pasteur, revealed that the proportion of primary school students infected by the novel coronavirus was 8.8%. The results were published online on pasteur.fr on June 23, 2020.
The findings included:
· The virus had been circulating in the community from late January 2020. The number of cases gradually increased until early March before stabilizing and then beginning to fall at the end of March.
· Of the 1,340 people included in the study, 139 had been infected by the virus, representing 10.4% of the population under study.
· 510 students from six primary schools were included in the study. There were three probable cases of SARS-CoV-2 infection in three different schools before the schools closed for the February vacation and then for the lockdown in Crépy-en-Valois. These cases did not give rise to secondary cases among other school students or teaching staff.
· The teachers were only marginally affected, with just 3/42 (7.1%) teachers infected in total, a similar figure to the number of parents of non-infected children in the study who were infected by the virus (6.9%). For non-teaching staff, the proportion of infection was 1/28 (3.6%).
· The rate of infection was very high among parents of infected children (61.0%), but just 6.9% among parents of non-infected children. This suggests that the parents were the source of infection of their children in several cases.
· Only two individuals were admitted to hospital (1.4%) for COVID-19 out of the 139 recorded cases of SARS-CoV-2 infection, a figure that is not surprising for a relatively young population. Both individuals admitted to hospital were parents. There were no deaths.
· The children had minor forms of the disease, with clinical signs that were not particularly indicative of COVID-19. The only symptoms typically associated with the disease were diarrhea, experienced by 10 of the 58 infected children, and fatigue, experienced by 15 of them.
· In adults, 90.7% of those who lost their sense of smell and 75% of those who lost their sense of taste during the period of the study were infected with SARS-CoV-2, confirming the strong predictive value of these signs.
· The proportion of asymptomatic forms in infected individuals was estimated at 8/81 (9.9%) in adults and 24/58 (41.4%) in children.
The study identified three probable cases of SARS-CoV-2 infection in three primary schools in Crépy-en-Valois before the schools closed for the February vacation and then for the lockdown in Crépy-en-Valois. But there was no secondary transmission of the virus to other children at the school, or from children to teachers. Most of the children were infected by their family members, probably their parents. The results are reassuring in view of the reopening of primary schools but they need to be confirmed by other studies in a school environment. A previous study by the same authors at the high school in Crépy-en-Valois demonstrated that a much higher proportion of high school students were infected during the February outbreak and that teachers and other school staff were also affected by the outbreak.
"Overall, the results of this study are comparable to those of studies carried out in other countries, which suggest that children aged between 6 and 11 are generally infected in a family environment rather than at school. The main new finding is that the infected children did not spread the virus to other children or to teachers or other school staff. These results need to be confirmed by other studies, given the low number of introductions of the virus in the schools under study," commented Arnaud Fontanet, lead author of the study, Head of the Epidemiology of Emerging Diseases Unit at the Ins ut Pasteur and a Professor at the CNAM. "Once again, the willingness of the people of Crépy-en-Valois to take part in this study gave us the opportunity to further our knowledge about the virus so that we can be as well prepared as possible for children to return to school," continues Arnaud Fontanet.
"The study also confirmed that younger children infected by the novel coronavirus generally do not develop symptoms or present with minor symptoms that may result in a failure to diagnose the virus. The highly characteristic signs of loss of taste and smell were not observed at all in children under the age of 15, despite being experienced by half of the adults," adds Bruno Hoen, last author of the study and Medical Research Director at the Ins ut Pasteur.
https://www.hpnonline.com/infection-...rimary-schools
According to your earlier posts, up to 8% of infected kids could infect adults.
We have a lot more infected kids than any country you cited.
Do you see the disconnect in what you're saying?
Masks don't work?
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