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    "graffiti"

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    The really important thing is what does Bill Mitc have to say about this?

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    The really important thing is what does Bill Mitc have to say about this?
    You can find him on twitter. Click on the manifying glass to activate the search engine.

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    Anyhow, "Antifa" or whoever these people are destroying property are re ed. All they're doing is demonizing the movement of actual peaceful protesters who want change, destroying their neighborhoods, while giving Wingnuts an opportunity to take the moral high ground. One could argue "destroying is the only thing the powers-that-be understand." Nah. It just invites more of a police state.

    These idiots need to get organized, need a clear goal, and need to execute it WITHOUT violence or destruction. If I were the defacto leader of this movement, I would call for boycotts of ALL corporate products, from iPhones to Nikes. Refuse to buy any new unless you absolute need it for survival (which you won't). Cancel netflix, amazon, instagram, and whatever else. Twitter might be a necessarily evil though to quickly communicate and advertise your movement. The hope here to to further crash the DOW and Nasdaq. Shame wingnuts into oblivion on social media. Use cancel culture wisely. Try to drive Trumpism to the fringe and don't opt back into consumerist society until Trumpism is defeated. Use peaceful civil disobedience in all major cities, stage sit-ins across the country, shun MAGAts. Door-to-door campaign for Biden (many of this lot don't like Biden, but defeating Trumpism needs to be the first goal).

    None of this will happen because these people are dilettante "activists" who are hopping on a trend and pathetically want to be "a part of something" that is glamorized on twitter. There's nothing to protest really right now. Floyd's killers are locked up. They achieved their initial goals, but now they're just exhausting their sympathy capital.

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    All they're doing is demonizing the movement of actual peaceful protesters who want change
    There's nothing to protest really right now.

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    I worded it awkwardly. There are still many things to protest about, but right now is not the time to be protesting considering the Covid situation. I get the immense anger people had after watching Floyd's murder drove them to protest vs. protecting themselves/spreading Covid, but currently, the Floyd situation has been resolved, so further protesting about broader police reform, Trump's fascist regime, and so on should wait until Covid is handled.

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    Millions of people are out of work. Millions more will be evicted without a rent moratorium starting next month.

    Trump's incompetent leadership on the pandemic and police murder got us here, the pressure will be on until the pandemic abates AND the economy recovers. I disagree that the protests have been unsuccessful, BLM now enjoys a roughly 65% approval rating nationwide, with similar numbers backing police reform.

    Makes sense to avoid mass gatherings during a pandemic, but a fascist President, violent cops and economic deprivation piss people off. If Trump and the police don't chill out, the people won't either.

    Portland rallies were dwindling steadily for weeks when Trump decided to whack the hornet's nest and start black-bagging protesters. There's responsibility on the LE side for deescalating too.

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    Millions of people are out of work. Millions more will be evicted without a rent moratorium starting next month.

    Trump's incompetent leadership on the pandemic and police murder got us here, the pressure will be on until the pandemic abates AND the economy recovers. I disagree that the protests have been unsuccessful, BLM now enjoys a roughly 65% approval rating nationwide, with similar numbers backing police reform.

    Makes sense to avoid mass gatherings during a pandemic, but a fascist President, violent cops and economic deprivation piss people off. If Trump and the police don't chill out, the people won't either.

    Portland rallies were dwindling steadily for weeks when Trump decided to whack the hornet's nest and start black-bagging protesters. There's responsibility on the LE side for deescalating too.
    Oh yeah, that's definitely a reason to take to the streets, covid or no covid. Demands for a safety net should be priority, through increased taxation on the wealthy. When we needed to drum up funds for the WWII effort, marginal tax rates on the wealthiest reached like 96 percent.

    And I agree the protests have been successful. I just fear they'll overplay their hand wrt rioting and that might turn people away from their cause. No one likes to see buildings burning, especially small businesses and such. Also gives the right propaganda fodder. But I understand most rioters and looters aren't part the cause and just looking to steal or destroy for the of it.

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    "graffiti"
    free speech

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    These es think they have the right to boss people around, including the president.

    they have the right to free speech, including criticizing the government and the people within it

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    they have the right to free speech, including criticizing the government and the people within it
    I didn't argue they don't have free speech, philo.

    It's rude. And it sure AF doesn't "respect the office".

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    I didn't argue they don't have free speech, philo.

    It's rude. And it sure AF doesn't "respect the office".

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    A congressmen trying to boss around POTUS is low brow. Defend it if if you're TDS is that bad.

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    $$$$

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    is that the only thing he said and the only reason for his termination?

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    is that the only thing he said and the only reason for his termination?
    do some research and lmk what you find out

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    do some research and lmk what you find out
    having that kind of curiosity might be useful before exhibiting bot-like behavior

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    having that kind of curiosity might be useful before exhibiting bot-like behavior
    couldn't find anything? oh well

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    $$$$
    Baseball.

    Is it that difficult to get even basic facts straight?

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    do some research and lmk what you find out
    Sounds like it probably isn't.

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    Baseball.

    Is it that difficult to get even basic facts straight?
    oooooooooooooooooooo.GOTHEEM!

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    Sounds like it probably isn't.
    lmk what you find out

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    lmk what you find out
    I did.

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    having that kind of curiosity might be useful before exhibiting bot-like behavior

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