Coronavirus is one mutation away from infecting millions

[ElNono]

you didnt know? cuomo sent recovering patients back to nursing homes

, I didn't know. No way.

Did you hear about Chicago?

[ChumpDumper]

https://www.ksby.com/news/coronaviru...agnosis-secret

chick goes to work knowingly infected and also infected her 15 other housemates.


like this is why.........this is why we're ed

16 people in one house?

11 kids?

WTF Atascadero?

[TSA]

Nope. You haven't really proven that either, unless you are going to have other children under 10 teaching them? I have yet to see a coherent evidence based plan.

All you have is "children under 10 don't get sick or pass it on very much" but don't really have anything that might show how fast it would go if you lump them together five days a week for 8 to 9 hours a day. Your provided evidence is pretty thin on that. The studies were done on populations after schools closed, and didn't really look at schools that remained open for any length of time.

I assume by your continued lack of showing any evidence about teenagers that it doesn't exist. I will quit asking for it. You obviously can't even come close to showing that.

No known case of teacher catching coronavirus from pupils, says scientist

There has been no recorded case of a teacher catching the coronavirus from a pupil anywhere in the world, according to one of the government’s leading scientific advisers.

Mark Woolhouse, a leading epidemiologist and member of the government’s Sage committee, told The Times that it may have been a mistake to close schools in March given the limited role children play in spreading the virus.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/n...tist-3zk5g2x6z

[spurraider21]

, I didn't know. No way.

Did you hear about Chicago?

Did you know that despite only account for 13% of the population...

[boutons_deux]

Rightwingnutjobs are ALWAYS so brave wanting other people to take risks, suffer, die.

[TSA]

yes. unnerving. because that means we could have way more people spreading this than we know. we still dont have a great grasp on what sort of long term lasting effects the virus has on people who manage not to die or show serious symptoms. and even 20x the infections wouldnt have us very close to herd immunity

What would 20x the infections do to the IFR? If the study is correct it looks like tholdren called det concerning the IFR.

[spurraider21]

What would 20x the infections do to the IFR? If the study is correct it looks like tholdren called det concerning the IFR.

i mean right now if you just take our confirmed cases and deaths you have over a 3.6% death rate. obviously thats not the IFR, but if we quadrupled the actual case count (that study had a huge range as low as 4x) you'd wind up with 0.9% (and that doesnt account for the active cases)

regardless, throwing blind darts and happening to be right wouldnt be anything to be pounding your chest over. he didnt use any analysis or show any math. just "hurdur FLU"

[midnightpulp]

What would 20x the infections do to the IFR? If the study is correct it looks like tholdren called det concerning the IFR.

Since NYC was the most infected, that's probably the best data set we have to extrapolate IFR from projected case count based on antibody tests. NYC's prevalence is estimated at 23.3% https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...b-surveys.html

Meaning: 1.9 million true infections in NYC. 23K/1.9 million = 1.2 percent IFR. 12x times higher than the flu. Now I don't think it's logical to extrapolate that IFR to the entire country since New York City was a unique case when you consider the population density factors, mass transit use, and their higher susceptibility to respiratory viruses any given year, but a .04-.1 range is probably a safe estimate country wide.

[SnakeBoy]

What would 20x the infections do to the IFR? If the study is correct it looks like tholdren called det concerning the IFR.

From a couple of weeks ago

Such doom & gloom in this thread. Let's try to be optimistic.

Assuming actual cases is 20x confirmed cases and deaths is reasonably accurate, we only have ~500k deaths to go before the US can move on from the covid era.

So cheer up people.

The optimistic scenario of actual cases 20x confirmed cases put US mortality at just over .2% (~500k deaths to go for us). For Sweden it puts the mortality rate at just over .3%.

[TSA]

Since NYC was the most infected, that's probably the best data set we have to extrapolate IFR from projected case count based on antibody tests. NYC's prevalence is estimated at 23.3% https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...b-surveys.html

Meaning: 1.9 million true infections in NYC. 23K/1.9 million = 1.2 percent IFR. 12x times higher than the flu. Now I don't think it's logical to extrapolate that IFR to the entire country since New York City was a unique case when you consider the population density factors, mass transit use, and their higher susceptibility to respiratory viruses any given year, but a .04-.1 range is probably a safe estimate country wide.

Which would make tholdren correct on IFR being less than the flu. And I'm not discounting any deaths or saying coronavirus isn't serious just pointing out tholdren has been beating that drum for months and getting for it daily.

[midnightpulp]

Which would make tholdren correct on IFR being less than the flu. And I'm not discounting any deaths or saying coronavirus isn't serious just pointing out tholdren has been beating that drum for months and getting for it daily.

That isn't less than the flu. Flu is .1 percent or .01. Covid is likely .4 percent (.04) to 1 percent (.1).

[baseline bum]

Which would make tholdren correct on IFR being less than the flu. And I'm not discounting any deaths or saying coronavirus isn't serious just pointing out tholdren has been beating that drum for months and getting for it daily.

Still funny when Dr Tholdren was arguing a point a few days ago and posted a link showing a 0.64% IFR

[midnightpulp]

Still funny when Dr Tholdren was arguing a point and posted a link showing a 0.64% IFR

Holdren isn't correct with the Covid being lower in any event. I sometimes up my decimals. The overall consensus is that Covid's IFR is .64% to 1% range. Writing that in decimals is actually .0064 to .01 (100 percent [1], 10 percent [.1], 1 percent [.01])

The flu IFR is .01% or .001.

[spurraider21]

Holdren isn't correct with the Covid being lower in any event. I sometimes up my decimals. The overall consensus is that Covid's IFR is .64% to 1% range. Writing that in decimals is actually .0064 to .01 (100 percent [1], 10 percent [.1], 1 percent [.01])

The flu IFR is .01% or .001.

flu IFR is 0.1% not 0.01% iirc

you had it right a couple of posts above

[hater]

flu IFR is 0.1% not 0.01% iirc

you had it right a couple of posts above

Meanwhile we ac ulated a few more dozen carcasses

[Blake]

Don’t be re ed. Kids have been around adults even more than they normally are and adults pass it to kids at a much higher rate of transmission than kid to kid.

Let’s talk about it now.

How many kids 5-17 have died from Covid in the US?

What’s the hospitalization rate for kids 5-17 with Covid?

No they haven't. Kids have pretty much been quarantined at home with their parents or other immediate family.

You're just flat lying now.

[TSA]

No they haven't. Kids have pretty much been quarantined at home with their parents or other immediate family.

You're just flat lying now.

If kids are quarantined at home with parents or other immediate family instead of being at school all day among other kids their time around adults throughout the day has increased. Adults are the ones infecting kids.

Step up for once.

How many kids 5-17 have died from Covid in the US?

What’s the hospitalization rate for kids 5-17 with Covid?

[Blake]

If kids are quarantined at home with parents or other immediate family instead of being at school all day among other kids their time around adults throughout the day has increased. Adults are the ones infecting kids.

Step up for once.

How many kids 5-17 have died from Covid in the US?

What’s the hospitalization rate for kids 5-17 with Covid?

Kids in middle school and even some grade school switch classes, switch teachers.

Then there's bus driver.

Then there's their family again.

You're a lying idiot.

[Blake]

Holdren isn't correct with the Covid being lower in any event. I sometimes up my decimals. The overall consensus is that Covid's IFR is .64% to 1% range. Writing that in decimals is actually .0064 to .01 (100 percent [1], 10 percent [.1], 1 percent [.01])

The flu IFR is .01% or .001.

[TSA]

Kids in middle school and even some grade school switch classes, switch teachers.

Then there's bus driver.

Then there's their family again.

You're a lying idiot.

All of the people you mentioned would have masks on. Do you think parents are wearing masks at home? Do you need me to repost the multiple studies showing kids are being infected in their own homes by parents or adult family members or are you finally ready to step up for once and answer the questions?

How many kids 5-17 have died from Covid in the US?

What’s the hospitalization rate for kids 5-17 with Covid?

[Blake]

All of the people you mentioned would have masks on.

Lol look at this lightning speed goalpost move

You're re ed. GTFO with your lying bull already.

[TSA]

Influenza death rates are completely wrong. Did Business Insider use 2020-2021 influenza stats...meaning we haven't even hit our flu season?

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/2018-2019.html

[TSA]

Lol look at this lightning speed goalpost move

You're re ed. GTFO with your lying bull already.

There was no goalpost move, you just don't think things through before you post and are just thinking about your next dodge of a question.

Step up, answer the questions.

How many kids 5-17 have died from Covid in the US?

What’s the hospitalization rate for kids 5-17 with Covid?

[Blake]

There was no goalpost move,

Kids have been around adults even more than they normally are..

No they haven't. Kids have pretty much been quarantined at home with their parents or other immediate family.

Kids in middle school and even some grade school switch classes, switch teachers.

Then there's bus driver.

Then there's their family again.

You're a lying idiot.

All of the people you mentioned would have masks on.

Lol tsa. GTFO with your lying bull .

[TSA]

Lol tsa. GTFO with your lying bull .

You really don't think things through before you post.