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    False.

    He was talking about MS-13.

    Want to try again?
    Time to use google.

    When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you. They’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people … But I speak to border guards and they tell us what we’re getting … They’re sending us not the right people.
    Okay, what can we conclude from this. The migrants coming from Mexico are majority murderers and rapists, while some good people might be in the mix. Thus, he's generalizing the migrant class as being murderers and rapists overall. And there's nothing in that quote that specifies MS13.

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    False.

    He denounced white supremacy in the same breath.

    Next.
    Here's some simple litmus questions to test whether Trump's supporters endorse his immigration policy out of "protecting our borders" or because of latent racism and white nationalism.

    - Do you agree with the Lazarus poem on the Statue of Liberty?

    - Do you agree with the Ellis Island immigration model we had in the early 20th century that saw as many as 1 million immigrants processed in a year. If so why? If not why?

    - If you do agree with the Ellis Island Immigration model during that time period, do you agree that it should be applied today? If so why? If not why?

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    Dude still wants to murder the Central Park Five.

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    Time to use google.



    Okay, what can we conclude from this. The migrants coming from Mexico are majority murderers and rapists, while some good people might be in the mix. Thus, he's generalizing the migrant class as being murderers and rapists overall. And there's nothing in that quote that specifies MS13.
    unless he meant SOME of MS-13 were good people

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    lmao @ Qhris asking people not to use google, because as soon as you dig out the actual quotes, he knows he's fuuuuuuuuuuuucked

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    Time to use google.



    Okay, what can we conclude from this. The migrants coming from Mexico are majority murderers and rapists, while some good people might be in the mix. Thus, he's generalizing the migrant class as being murderers and rapists overall. And there's nothing in that quote that specifies MS13.
    He was talking about the bad hombres, but you really want to believe so I guess there's no stopping you.

    Quick question though. Do you think Mexican is a race? You said Trump was racist.

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    lmao @ Qhris asking people not to use google, because as soon as you dig out the actual quotes, he knows he's fuuuuuuuuuuuucked
    Show me the quotes.

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    which MS-13 members were the "good people" he referenced?

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    He was talking about the bad hombres, but you really want to believe so I guess there's no stopping you.

    Quick question though. Do you think Mexican is a race? You said Trump was racist.
    He said the majority of Latino migrants "are bad hombres." This is a blatant falsehood and thus I interpret it as racist. The majority of migrants aren't bad hombres. And they don't drive up crime rates.

    https://www.unz.com/runz/the-myth-of-hispanic-crime/

    If Trump was informed, which I'm sure you believe he is, he wouldn't spout falsehoods about the Latino migrant class. It was chum for his racist base. Throwing this chum also makes him a racist.

    Mexicans are an ethnicity. But bigotry and racism are two sides of the same coin.

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    Is any of that racist? If he said the Mexican cultural norm is murder (or lazy, drunk, etc). Prejudice - yes.

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    He said the majority of Latino migrants "are bad hombres." This is a blatant falsehood and thus I interpret it as racist. The majority of migrants aren't bad hombres. And they don't drive up crime rates.

    https://www.unz.com/runz/the-myth-of-hispanic-crime/

    If Trump was informed, which I'm sure you believe he is, he wouldn't spout falsehoods about the Latino migrant class. It was chum for his racist base. Throwing this chum also makes him a racist.

    Mexicans are an ethnicity. But bigotry and racism are two sides of the same coin.
    or at least shows his comfort level with those who actually are

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    Is any of that racist? If he said the Mexican cultural norm is murder (or lazy, drunk, etc). Prejudice - yes.

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    A majority of them coming illegal are bad people

    They could care less about laws

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    A majority of them coming illegal are bad people

    They could care less about laws
    This is common knowledge but Trump said it so REEEEeeeeeeeeeee....

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    Haha I'm not saying Mexicans are those things

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    Haha I'm not saying Mexicans are those things
    Is any of that racist? If he said the Mexican cultural norm is murder (or lazy, drunk, etc). Prejudice - yes.

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    This is common knowledge but Trump said it so REEEEeeeeeeeeeee....
    This isn't common knowledge. It's false. Read that essay from the Unz Report, which is a rightwing site.

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    This isn't common knowledge. It's false. Read that essay from the Unz Report, which is a rightwing site.
    homework assignments

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    Those are common stereotypes of migrants. Take out the brackets from the statement if it makes you feel better.

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    He called the majority of Messican/Latino migrants murderers and rapists.
    THEY ARE!!!! Look at the most dangerous cities in the world, vast majority are in Mexico.

    If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck...

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    Can you imagine if Trump said this?

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    Of course Biden said that, He doesn't want to slap the hand that feeds him. Everyone knows China is the biggest donor to his campaign.

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    This is the guy Trump wants to sell as senile.

    Better pick another strategy becaue Biden is on his meds. Looks very lucid to me.

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