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    this is what some of these dumbasses don't understand, you can't be arrested for protesting, but that doesn't give you the right to trespass and vandalize, those are still crimes and you should get arrested.
    Sure.

    I don't think anyone ITT has said anyone has the right to break laws without consequence.The question is whether LE can enforce laws without making itself look worse in a country that looks favorably on BLM and police reform

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    So far, LE tactics seem to be backfiring. Trump is trailing in the suburbs.

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    This does nothing to prove your fence theory.

    No offense, but you kind of suck at this.

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    This does nothing to prove your fence theory.

    No offense, but you kind of suck at this.
    You actually have to watch, Qhris.

    "Live" means it's happening right now.

    No offense, but are you mentally challenged?

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    You actually have to watch, Qhris.

    "Live" means it's happening right now.

    No offense, but are you mentally challenged?
    I should have put no offense in bold.

    Again , I'm sorry for offending you.

    If you find anything relevant to back up your fence theory lmk

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    I should have put no offense in bold.

    Again , I'm sorry for offending you.

    If you find anything relevant to back up your fence theory lmk
    Yeah, zero reports of any feds being attacked like you claim in Portland for two months.

    scared, gullible, challenged Qhris.

    No offense.

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    You're so full of
    It's not about me.

    Risking personal liberty for ones ideals and one's fellows answers to bravery for me. So does standing up in front of riot cops to protect others like the wall of moms, tbh.

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    One of the live feeds I watch.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQgKsEYpi_Y

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    Free speech, free assembly and the right to pe ion, go figure. Sorry you got bored

    Maybe leaning into LAW AND ORDER! to quell protests about police brutality isn't a winning strategy
    here in Chile its very easy to frame everything in the context of the dictatorship, the entire legal and police framework is still basically the one imposed by the dictatorship and a lot of youths, even if they didnt personally live through it, can still easily identify the same "enemy" and on historic dates skirmishes come like clockwork, police go out and "guard" some symbolic corner and basically go at it with LARPers as chump calls them.. but i think this kind of massive demonstration like you are seeing in portland, it clearly goes beyond larpers and dead enders, people from the sidelines see abuse and join in and it basically picks up more and more steam as police repression gets worse. i dont know if any country has really figured out a way to pacify this kind of situation, repression is the norm. probably the only effective measure is to avoid these levels of discontent. anybody have any clues why this is happening in portland / seattle and not really anywhere else in the US?

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    yep, increased law enforcement activity, particularly from feds, only escalates things and the protests grow bigger.

    obviously not the same thing, but somewhat analogous to the NFL kneeling protests which only became widespread/league-wide after trump started weighing in

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    here in Chile its very easy to frame everything in the context of the dictatorship, the entire legal and police framework is still basically the one imposed by the dictatorship and a lot of youths, even if they didnt personally live through it, can still easily identify the same "enemy" and on historic dates skirmishes come like clockwork, police go out and "guard" some symbolic corner and basically go at it with LARPers as chump calls them.. but i think this kind of massive demonstration like you are seeing in portland, it clearly goes beyond larpers and dead enders, people from the sidelines see abuse and join in and it basically picks up more and more steam as police repression gets worse. i dont know if any country has really figured out a way to pacify this kind of situation, repression is the norm. probably the only effective measure is to avoid these levels of discontent. anybody have any clues why this is happening in portland / seattle and not really anywhere else in the US?
    There seems to be more radical organizing in those two cities for some reason. A target rich environment for Trump's LE agitprop, perhaps.

    I think millions of people out of work has something to do with it. If there's no extension of the rent moratorium and UI gets cut by 60%, I expect it to be even worse when millions more get evicted during the next few months.

    The rallies were dwindling when DHS arrived, look at them now. Trump is egging on the resistance to Trump and teasing resentment of LE. He's also breaking comity and cooperation with cities and states by sending LE without any invitation or coordination. Not sure where DHS will go to get its reputation back after this cynical stunt.
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    Portland definitely has been a hotspot for this kind of activity for the right and left for years -- mostly dateless young males doing mostly symbolic bull that means nothing until someone gets hurt every few months and it trends on Twitter. They're the guys who stick around and with the fence after the hundreds of rational protesters with jobs go home to catch Fallon.

    That fence ain't going anywhere now. Jersey barriers on both sides.

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    militants armed with pebbles


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    That fence ain't going anywhere now. Jersey barriers on both sides.
    Took em long enough to harden their perimeter, jeez.

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    militants armed with pebbles

    Might be some pepper balls that didn't blow.

    We'll see how long it takes them to get gassed tonight. The feds shoot it in between the fence and the inner jersey barrier so they can't pick it up anymore. Leaf blowers still work.

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    Ooh, someone tell TSA a massive (tiny) fire was set inside the fence!

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    They don't attack the feds

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    Qhris can't even take the spoon feeding he demanded.

    Stick to your secret lists, I guess....

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    trump getting his daily portland briefing like


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    yep, increased law enforcement activity, particularly from feds, only escalates things and the protests grow bigger.

    obviously not the same thing, but somewhat analogous to the NFL kneeling protests which only became widespread/league-wide after trump started weighing in
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect

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    They don't attack the feds


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    ^^^ magpie Chris

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