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    Some of you have gladly accepted the sandwiches Greg Poop feeds you and are calling them delicious and it's sad.

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    Just knowing that he is not coming back would make my summer.

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    Being a "fan favorite" doesn't bring results.

    Marks was a fan favorite. Bonner was a fan favorite. Boban was a fan favorite.

    No one is saying Bryn is a bad guy, or that he isn't like by the fans or his teammates. The problem is that he is just not suited to be a high-level NBA player (and may even be a fringe NBA player).

    Those things don't always co-exist.
    He produced more 3 pointers made than anyone else on the team. He gave room for DDR and LMA to work. We made it to the playoffs with him last year and had a winning record with him last year. Dejounte is the one who ed things up and didn’t produce. You want to blame someone then blame Dejounte for making a whopping 34 threes this year. Bryn was responsible for 33% of our production from downtown.

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    The biggest problem with him bringing him back isn't the act itself (they need all the volume 3-point shooting they can get), it's that because he's played such a prominent role in recent seasons, that it won't be to be the 11th man.

    It'll probably be at the expense of one of Johnson/Walker being a permanent fixture in the rotation when they have the full squad. Sure, having a fully squad is rare in this league, so they'll still play a good amount, but still.

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    Hopefully this quote from Pop isn't as damning as it appears on the surface. This feels like a loaded question for the reporter to ask.

    What is Pop supposed to say? "Yeah, we don't really like his short ass and can't wait to be rid of him"?

    Also, this came at the beginning of this season when Forbes was still coming off an overachieving year...I wonder if Pop would still feel the same after another season of watching him (and the team) underperform.

    Either way, Pop is never going to be the guy to throw his own players under the bus (accept for when he annually pulls the soft card, but he does that for the team as a whole). If Pop can say nice things that will help a guy get a payday elsewhere (like Boban, J-Simms, Anderson, Baynes, etc..) he will try to do that.

    That said, I definitely do not want Forbes back next season. Like OP said, we already are hamstrung at the SG position and any minutes given to Bryn would just be stunting the development of more talented and well-rounded players Murray, White, Walker, KJ, and even Witherspoon.

    The only way Bryn makes sense is a spark-plug off the bench or filling garbage time, but if the last two seasons have taught us anything, I don't trust Pop to use him in that capacity.
    Please, Pop, please don't resign Forbes. I think we caught a glimpse of how compe ive the Spurs can still be without playing this guy that, in no way, shape, or form, should be in the NBA.

    No one is going to sign him. Let him have that test of the free agent market.

    This will be a senility test for Pop, because if the Spurs spend any money on Brynn after witnessing first hand that they're better off without him, it means the old man has definitely lost it.

    The bubble games restored some of my confidence in the FO and the Spurs ability to scout and develop talent. Signing Forbes to a new deal would ruin it.




    Good article Timvp!

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    Pop's #1 priority is making sure that POS is locked up for years to come.

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    This.

    I saw an article from a golden state themed website a few weeks back that said they were looking closely at the Spurs this off season to possibly have a fire sale on vets. The two players they are looking at are Mills and Rudy. Golden state is one of the few organizations I think Pop would be willing to trade Mills to seeing as they will be a strong team and Pop has a good relationship with Kerr. If there was ever a time to extract value out of Mills this is the time to do it. If Pop is serious about going all in on the youth next season, a culture reset seems inevitable.

    With that said i feel if they do trade Mills we are probably keeping Forbes, but if he is willing to take the backseat spark plug off the bench role Mills has occupied it may not be all that bad to keep Forbes if the price is right and lets be honest, the Spurs have the upper hand on those negotiations.
    If Mills is traded I could see Forbes signing a deal like JJ Barea’s last contract (4 years - 16 million). Only thing I would change is to have it decrease over time.

    Year 1 - 4.3 million
    Year 2 - 4 million
    Year 3 - 3.9 million
    Year 4 - 3.8 million

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    I really hope some re ed team like the Knicks offers him 8+ million a year so SA will let him walk. Otherwise he is going to be back next year. Just watch

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    I actually disagree in that the Spurs #1 priority is convincing Pop to retire tbh.

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    He produced more 3 pointers made than anyone else on the team. He gave room for DDR and LMA to work. We made it to the playoffs with him last year and had a winning record with him last year. Dejounte is the one who ed things up and didn’t produce. You want to blame someone then blame Dejounte for making a whopping 34 threes this year. Bryn was responsible for 33% of our production from downtown.
    I agree that he's probably the best 3 point shooter on the team. But he didnt even do that right this year. His shooting regressed and he sucks in every other area of the game. He throws lazy passes, he gets blown by on defense almost every time down the floor, etc. etc. etc.

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    I like how OG Pop would say no one is guaranteed to start....now Pop kept referring to Forbes as a “starter”.

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    If Forbes would just draw a charge every once in a while he would be a much better player. Its hard to believe that you can be an undersized starter in the NBA for 2 years and NEVER draw a single charge! If you are a small NBA player one of the best things you can do on the defensive end is take a charge. This is the biggest difference between him and Mills tbh, Mills is willing to take a charge.

    If we do bring him back there better be some clause that adds a bonus if he takes a certain # of charges.

    Especially since teams started targeting him and singling him out as the weak link in our rotation, he should be racking up charges left and right.

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    If Forbes would just draw a charge every once in a while he would be a much better player. Its hard to believe that you can be an undersized starter in the NBA for 2 years and NEVER draw a single charge! If you are a small NBA player one of the best things you can do on the defensive end is take a charge. This is the biggest difference between him and Mills tbh, Mills is willing to take a charge.

    If we do bring him back there better be some clause that adds a bonus if he takes a certain # of charges.

    Especially since teams started targeting him and singling him out as the weak link in our rotation, he should be racking up charges left and right.
    Forbes cowers and backs off on defense. He might end his career never purposely trying to draw a charge.

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    they will resign him and act like it's a bargain. Pop then goes and either tries to start Mills or plays Mills and Forbes together off the bench next season.

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    Mr Fake Hustle still fooling everyone.

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    I really hope some re ed team like the Knicks offers him 8+ million a year so SA will let him walk. Otherwise he is going to be back next year. Just watch
    Spurs would match that tbh.

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    I’m gonna get some hate for this but I hope we keep Forbes lol he just shouldn’t play ahead of white, Lonnie, Keldon, and DJ. If Patty takes on more of a player/coach thing and doesn’t play any I think Forbes would be fine in patty’s current role

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    Go down the list and find the best available 3P shooter in the G-League. Sign him. Whoever he is, he's a better defender than Forbes.

    But didn't Bryn have like a B+ average for the season in the grade threads?


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    I’m gonna get some hate for this but I hope we keep Forbes


    Let me be the first to officially hate that idea.

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    How does Bryn Forbes compare with Matt Bonner? Both were widely reviled in SpursTalk. Both were considered 3-point marksmen who were complete pushovers on defense. Yet Bonner was a plus-minus king while Forbes’ plus-minus is atrocious.

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    How does Bryn Forbes compare with Matt Bonner? Both were widely reviled in SpursTalk. Both were considered 3-point marksmen who were complete pushovers on defense. Yet Bonner was a plus-minus king while Forbes’ plus-minus is atrocious.
    I was a top Bonner hater back in the day, but he was simply a choker. Still, he managed to play well during the regular season and always played at least average defense.

    Forbes just sucks at everything.

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    There is absolutely zero role for Forbes on this team. Please stop talking about "garbage time". Anytime he's on the court is garbage time

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    How does Bryn Forbes compare with Matt Bonner?
    Bonner was a mediocre nba player, Forbes is a mediocre cba player

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    Lol @ people trying to defend Forbes and his inexcusably bad showing this season on the counts that he is a "great shooter" and that he's had a large portion of the Spurs' made 3s. You can literally put any other SG in Forbes' role and give him Forbes' green as pasture light, and they'll have similar if not outright better results. This guy is a certified chucker... Literally no accountability from Pop or coaching, since he's been the "designated shooter" of the starters all season long. He's trash off ball, can't hold the rock for dear life when he does get it, no handles whatsoever, bad or inexistent passing ability beyond swinging it around on the perimeter (when he isn't taking it upon himself to bump his FGA into double figures), no athleticism or speed to speak of, no lateral quickness, no notable jumping ability, no finishing moves beyond that soft ass floater that he tries sometimes.... And I haven't begun speaking to his defensive woes.

    You can put Weatherspoon in his exact role, and he would perform better. Murray as a SG, even considering his hesitance to shoot 3's, would perform better. In fact, I'm kind of struggling to think of players that would actively be worse at his role than he was this year, for the team as a whole. The solution to the Spurs' woes isn't to try to work around the Frankenstein starting lineup by trying to plug the obvious shooting hole with a one-dimensional, not-even-that-good-at-shooting "marksmen". You work it from the ground up, and try to create a balanced team, one that's fit for the modern game and can play on both ends of the floor. The league is actively and quickly moving away from one-dimensional players, especially when they're defensive sieves, and most especially at the guard positions. And if all this wasn't enough, you also have to take into account that the Spurs have a boatload of guards they need to develop and give minutes to, that have been hindered by Forbes' ubiquity in the lineups this season.

    There is no place for Forbes on the Spurs, neither starting nor bench. We can easily run a DW/DJM/KJ starting trio, staggering either DW or DJ to run the bench with Patty/Weatherspoon at the 2 and Lonnie at the 3, with hopefully Lonnie moving to the 2 and a project 3 being brought along. Even if we trade Patty for assets, like we should, Weatherspoon has shown himself in the bubble to the point that you almost *have* to give him the chance, over a known commodity like Forbes. Just get him out... Before Pop starts drinking and getting in his feelings.

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    I’m gonna get some hate for this but I hope we keep Forbes lol he just shouldn’t play ahead of white, Lonnie, Keldon, and DJ. If Patty takes on more of a player/coach thing and doesn’t play any I think Forbes would be fine in patty’s current role
    Lol. Patty is light years better than Forbes

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    The problem is not Forbes it is who is playing him.

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