Offseason Priority #1: Don't Re-sign Bryn Forbes

[TimDunkem]

The problem is not Forbes it is who is playing him.

Yeah totally not Forbes fault that he isn't an NBA level player. Good point.

[Dingle Barry]

Even if he was better than he is, bringing him back would be re ed. You can't have half your roster made up of shooting guards.

[pad300]

Lmao to make an article about Bryn like this is gold.

On topic though, I think i would take him back if it was only 3 million, provided he plays very limited minutes and ends up as a backup for guys who get injured.

Does the term opportunity cost mean anything to you? Just No!

[Dingle Barry]

Yeah totally not Forbes fault that he isn't an NBA level player. Good point.

But that's just how God made him

[SAGirl]

Hopefully this quote from Pop isn't as damning as it appears on the surface. This feels like a loaded question for the reporter to ask.

What is Pop supposed to say? "Yeah, we don't really like his short ass and can't wait to be rid of him"?

Also, this came at the beginning of this season when Forbes was still coming off an overachieving year...I wonder if Pop would still feel the same after another season of watching him (and the team) underperform.

Either way, Pop is never going to be the guy to throw his own players under the bus (accept for when he annually pulls the soft card, but he does that for the team as a whole). If Pop can say nice things that will help a guy get a payday elsewhere (like Boban, J-Simms, Anderson, Baynes, etc..) he will try to do that.

That said, I definitely do not want Forbes back next season. Like OP said, we already are hamstrung at the SG position and any minutes given to Bryn would just be stunting the development of more talented and well-rounded players Murray, White, Walker, KJ, and even Witherspoon.

The only way Bryn makes sense is a spark-plug off the bench or filling garbage time, but if the last two seasons have taught us anything, I don't trust Pop to use him in that capacity.

Although it’s a loaded question the one who brought up the subject of paying him was Pop. He said either we pay him or lose him. And that still remains the situation.

I think the only way the Spurs get saved from re-signing him is if someone really wants him and prices him out of their budget. That seems easy since from what I am reading the Spurs budget is tight after Murray’s extension kicks on, but the market is also depressed.

[poopbox]

Arguably the flat out worse player in the nba...

Only saving grace is how many guards we have...

No way he is coming back...I think the "injury" he had was the polite way of the spurs telling him he won't be back...

[SAGirl]

He produced more 3 pointers made than anyone else on the team. He gave room for DDR and LMA to work. We made it to the playoffs with him last year and had a winning record with him last year. Dejounte is the one who ed things up and didn’t produce. You want to blame someone then blame Dejounte for making a whopping 34 threes this year. Bryn was responsible for 33% of our production from downtown.

I liked this post not to favor Bryn but because I do think Dejounte has been very disappointing. I have mentioned it elsewhere and hoping he’s better next season of course...

[Degoat]

Well Forbes is the best shooter on the team, but don’t worry, y’all will get yalls wish and he’ll go to a team like the Mavericks or Warriors and blossom like bertans did when he left

[Sugus]

Well Forbes is the best shooter on the team, but don’t worry, y’all will get yalls wish and he’ll go to a team like the Mavericks or Warriors and blossom like bertans did when he left

His defensive woes alone are a bigger hindrance to the team than the plus in shooting he brings to the table, and Pop cannot realistically be trusted to put him in the role he deserves (5-10m spark bench SG) if he stays, so yeah... Hope he blossoms elsewhere tbh, don't really have anything against Forbes the person, he's got kids to feed.

[Russ]

Well Forbes is the best shooter on the team, but don’t worry, y’all will get yalls wish and he’ll go to a team like the Mavericks or Warriors and blossom like bertans did when he left

Forbes is the type of player whose production will go way up on a good team. He's a pure shooter who can hit big shots under pressure (witness the last Spurs' playoff game).

At this stage in the Spurs' rebuilding, he's the type of player who is easy to target for his poor defense. (Guys in his role on good teams aren't expected to stop their man one-on-one amid chaos -- just not his thing.)

That said, he is an asset who should be re-signed (even by the Spurs) for the right price.

(I'm expecting many of the following:

Don't disappoint. )

[timtonymanu]

I don’t care how nice he is in the lockerroom. Bryn Forbes. I will gladly start protesting the old man to retire if that got Forms is brought back in any capacity.

[talkspurs]

He produced more 3 pointers made than anyone else on the team. He gave room for DDR and LMA to work. We made it to the playoffs with him last year and had a winning record with him last year. Dejounte is the one who ed things up and didn’t produce. You want to blame someone then blame Dejounte for making a whopping 34 threes this year. Bryn was responsible for 33% of our production from downtown.

You do realize bertans did not play this year also right. Murray was not the only change.

[MultiTroll]

I don’t care how nice he is in the lockerroom. Bryn Forbes. I will gladly start protesting the old man to retire if that got Forms is brought back in any capacity.

You could be starting a movement.
Spurs Fans Lives Matter ?

[Dverde]

Run! Bryn has an offer sheet! Don’t show it to Pop!

[Leetonidas]

Well Forbes is the best shooter on the team, but don’t worry, y’all will get yalls wish and he’ll go to a team like the Mavericks or Warriors and blossom like bertans did when he left

Bertans being a 6'10" forward and a better shooter than Forbes makes him infinitely more valuable to an NBA roster than a midget SG with abysmal defense that can't even crack 40% from distance. Difference is if Spurs had traded Forbes to Washington and kept Bertans they'd have won like 10 more games not even remotely comparable tbh

[NASpurs]

Bertans being a 6'10" forward and a better shooter than Forbes makes him infinitely more valuable to an NBA roster than a midget SG with abysmal defense that can't even crack 40% from distance. Difference is if Spurs had traded Forbes to Washington and kept Bertans they'd have won like 10 more games not even remotely comparable tbh

Sounds more like Gary Neal than Bertans.

[cjw]

We’ve been talking about the cap figure for next year, and they’re going to have a hard time putting together a full roster, even if they bring back none of the expirings. The cap is $109M, and the Spurs have $120m in salary set for next year already, and that’s 12 guys, including partials for Metu, Lyles, and Zeller. They already have to sign one more player to hit the minimum of 13, so if they cut any of these 3, the replacements will have to be cheap.

Keep in mind that we missed the playoffs, so being a taxpayer probably isn’t on the table. It wouldn’t shock me if the Spurs Danny Greened DeRozan for the same offense: opting in when they really didn’t want him to. If they could dump him into someone’s capspace, that would make putting a decent roster together much easier.

Not sure I agree. Even if you removed 100% of Demar’s salary and renounced everyone (including Poeltl), you’re right around $95 million. That’s only $14 million of space plus the smaller room exception, and you’re down two key players. Keep Poeltl at $8 million, and you’re probably down to $6 million of room plus the room exception. If we have learned anything, it’s VERY hard to find impact players for that type of money.

I’d rather keep Demar and operate over the cap with the larger MLE ... or keeping Poeltl. Probably can’t do both and operate under the tax.

Alternatively, you get Demar to opt in and be traded (or if he wants to go to a team with no cap space, sign and trade) and get back assets for him.

tl;dr = unless you’re significantly under the cap, cap space doesn’t do jack for you. Now if we’re talking about trading one of Mills or Gay too, plus moving on from Lyles, then significant space can be created.

[TimDunkem]

Sounds more like Gary Neal than Bertans.

Gary could legitimately drop buckets from most areas of the court. He also had a big game in the Finals. Yeah Mike Miller with one shoe scored on him, but I bet Mike Miller on one shoe could score on Forbes RIGHT NOW.

[K...]

Nice, Timvp, reverse psychology!

[timtonymanu]

Gary could legitimately drop buckets from most areas of the court. He also had a big game in the Finals. Yeah Mike Miller with one shoe scored on him, but I bet Mike Miller on one shoe could score on Forbes RIGHT NOW.

I use to say Forbes was Gary Neal in the Danny Green role but Neal was at least useful during his time here. I seriously can’t think of a worse player at shooting guard than Forbes that was getting major minutes on the roster. That Lapro guy that was on the team for a bit couldn’t have been worse than Forms.

[GAustex]

Every keyboard coach on this web site saw it. Opponents easy scores are soul sapping.
Poop playing Bryn was a yoke that was too great to bear.

[superbigtime]

How confident really are y’all that the spurs aren’t gonna resign him patty mills style at midnight? It’s gonna happen... you can feel it.... It’s a damn disgrace that some posters here have more sense when it comes to this than pop does.

Guilty. This brought me back to reality.

[Kurgan]

They will overpay him. Just like they did with Patty. The Kawhi drama left a lot of shattered egos in the Spurs front office so "culture" guys like Patty and Bryn are valuable to them unfortunatly.

[KobesAchilles]

You just don’t let elite talent walk away. That’s all I’m saying. We will and should re-sign Bryn. He is an ELITE shooter

[K...]

The forbes vs neal comparison omits how good a hack looked next to Tim Duncan. Duncan made tons of scrub guards viable