I like him as a prospect and he’s really young too (just turned 19 last week), but if he goes before us then that just pushes another one of the original Top-10 guys down to us. So be it.
There is no "top 10". Its all what you make of it. Purely subjective. Dont be sheep. Even if you aggregate all the mock drafts out there, it won't be close to the actual best top 10 of the draft in a couple years. Just look at the ing draft that included Derrick White, hes top 12 in that draft yet was drafted 29th.
Well they’re still going to get a talented player is my point. There’s more than 10 guys in this draft that could really help us. Spurs will do their due diligence and take the player they think will best help us for the next 5+ years.
1 Trade for Every NBA Lottery Team If It Wins No. 1 Pick
Greg Swartz ** should have his writer's license revoked...
August 18, 2020
The Trade: 2020 No. 1 overall pick, PF Rudy Gay, PG Patty Mills, F Keldon Johnson to Cleveland Cavaliers for PF Kevin Love and G Collin Sexton
The San Antonio Spurs' 22-year-playoff streak is over, and they need to add significant talent to start another run next season.
Kevin Love, a five-time All-Star, and Collin Sexton, a 20-points-per-game scorer, would spark a starting lineup that could also include LaMarcus Aldridge, Dejounte Murray and DeMar DeRozan if DeRozan picks up his player option or signs a new deal.
LaMelo Ball or Anthony Edwards would make more sense for the Cleveland Cavaliers with Sexton gone, and either would join 2019 No. 5 pick Darius Garland in a revamped backcourt. The Cavs would save significant future money by swapping Love's contract for the expiring deals of Rudy Gay and Patty Mills, and Keldon Johnson would provide wing depth.
San Antonio likely won't commit to a rebuild with Gregg Popovich still coaching, so moving the first overall pick for established talent would be the right choice.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...wins-no-1-pick
the #1 pick AND Keldon Johnson for Kevin Love
OMGHe must be trolling. I wouldn't trade that for Lebron at this point.
My only problem with him is his lateral movement, which might prevent him from being a plus defender.
Dude, if you don't want me to keep quoting you stop throwing hissy fits at me.
Last edited by DAF86; 08-18-2020 at 09:29 PM.
Yeah, DeJounte, you're actually a good newish poster, and you bring a lot to the board, but you can't let DAFfy get under your skin like this. He and I probably butt heads more than anyone else on this side of the stairs, and we still don't have ill will toward each other and actually agree on some things.
I get it from seeing him. I don't really like the way he moves, but he's a big guy who seems to have a good nose for impact defensive plays and some offensive potential. He just didn't pop for me. I'm not even close to an amateur. I think I'm a decent amateur analyst for what's happening in the NBA, but I don't have the patience to watch film and pick out traits like you and a couple of other posters on here seem able to. With that said, I'd be wary of using a top-four pick on him. At 11, I'd be fine, because he checks boxes for what the team needs, and with Lyles and Gay, the team can take some time to develop him. At four, I think there are guys with higher floors AND higher ceilings. Though defense is important, a top-four pick would hopefully be the highest the team has in a long time. If they nail it, they could be a steady playoff team again. I don't necessarily want to use that on a full project unless he realistically has All-Star upside that he can reach while on his rookie deal.
Pat is a riser in the same fashion Sekou Doumbouya was last year. The combine will shape the minds of these scouts. I see Isaiah as a riser right before the draft. Like who the gets doubled, tripled as a freshman? It's not common.
his Israeli league numbers were solid but his Euroleague numbers were not. I read on real GM from actual Israeli league fans that he shouldn’t have gotten MVP also but that’s a different story that I’m not really going to research at this time.
It’ll be very interesting to see who may fall to us at 11 (if we don’t get lucky and land a top 4 pick) because I definitely see Precious and Pat going in the top 10
1 more day until the lottery. Thursday, 7:30 pm CT
I hadn't check Nesmith yet. Not exactly what I would prefer but that shooting looks too tempting.ESPN latest mock draft
11. San Antonio Spurs | No. 1 pick odds: 2.0%Aaron Nesmith
Vanderbilt
F
Age: 20.8
Nesmith's draft range: Nos. 8-15
Given DeMar DeRozan's player option and age, finding a long-term starting wing will surely be a priority for the Spurs. Nesmith is arguably the best shooter in this class, especially off movement, and would fit seamlessly into the Spurs' culture with his work ethic.
Full Nesmith scouting report
41. Spurs
Desmond Bane | TCU | G | Age: 22.1
According to that video his strengths are shooting, defensive IQ, size and strength (for his position, which is more of a SG, than SF). And his weaknesses ball handling, first step, foot speed, playmaking (tunel vision) and injury concerns (yikes).
The video has him compared to Danny Green (if you assure me we would get a Danny Green for the next 5 to 7 years I would draft him with my eyes closed), but that catch and shoot ability coming off screens reminds me more of Klay Thompson. I wouldn't be oppossed to drafting him, tbh.
+1 even if there i's no top 10 in this draft but if Williams goes higher than 10 that probably give us a better choice.
I'm lowering Onyeke Okongwu on my board. I'm changing my stance on players with no semblance of an offensive game. If they flash an advanced move or two, then there's potential there. But if all youre doing are layups, its concerning. The current Spurs team has no superstar where we can play 4v5 on the offensive end. There's no James Harden here (yet. Looking at you, Keldon). So, all of my prospects on my big board will shift a little because of the emphasis of having all players show some kind of skill on offense and lowering the standard for defense, because our defensive system usually funnels everything through to our center anyway (whenever our wings or guards get blown by). So, only the defense of center prospects remain critical.
In summary,
-Zeke Nnaji rises (both offense and defense impress)
-Tyler Bey falls (has the Devin Vassell syndrome on offense, takes stupid shots)
-Onyeke falls (no sign of an offensive game)
Tier 1 (high chance to be a star)
1. Deni Avdija
2. Obi Toppin
Tier 2 (some chance to be a star)
1A. Patrick Williams
1B. Precious Achiuwa
2. Isaiah Stewart
3. Zeke Nnaji
Tier 3 (high chance to be a solid role player)
1. Onyeke Okongwu
2. Jalen Smith
3. Paul Reed
4. Udoku Azubuike
5. Xavier Tillman
6. Tyler Bey
7. Daniel Oturu
Last edited by Dejounte; 08-19-2020 at 08:38 AM.
Aside from Deni Avdija and Obi Toppin I think he Spurs should draft Aaron Nesmith dude is a great shooter and would fit great with this team.
Sure, I wouldnt be opposed. Im mostly fixated on size, thats why im not including any guards in my lists. I personally want to see us have more length.
No guard stands out to me anyway.
Last edited by Dejounte; 08-19-2020 at 10:03 AM.
I could live with the above list as far Nesmith I like him but he has injury issue with his foot and we already have White with foot problems don’t need another at least not with our highest first pick in decades.
Ah yes, the dynamic duo of Aldridge and Love. We stackedthe #1 pick AND Keldon Johnson for Kevin Love
I think I had toyed with some trade ideas where the Spurs ship out Aldridge and another minor asset (though not the 11th pick) and get back Love and the Cavs' lottery pick in a salary-dump move for them. But I don't think they're so desparate to dump salary as to lose a high draft pick. Maybe if 4 teams jump them and they pick at #5 (27.8% change) or #6 (20% chance).
Would taking on Love's contract be worth it if the Spurs were willing to include #11 and could move from #11 to #1 or #2? This assumes the Cavs get one of those picks in the lottery. I doubt it due to the Spurs' tight finances, but it might be the best chance to move to the top of the board if there is someone the Spurs really really want.
Which is why I'll give the benefit of the doubt that the Spurs braintrust will get the best player we can. Remembering of course that haven't drafted higher than MOTHER ING 19th in the last 23 years. With the average being 25th or beyond for Timmy's tenure.
When you step back and think about it, that's just awe-inspiring that the Spurs got the players they have from where the pick. And it has already continued with DWhite, and Keldon, and potentially with DJ, Lonnie, and Luka. we may have even found solid bench guys that stick around for years, recently in Witherspoon and Eubanks, LATE in the second round.
Point being, I have full faith that PATFO gets the guy that not only furthers the Spurs way and Spurs culture but that helps us win for the next decade and beyond, whether it's a center, PF, SF, SG, or even a PG.
It's gonna happen.
I'm sure somebody could offer them more than we could.
Loves contract is horrendous. Nobody in their right mind would do this. Spurs got plenty of cap space to sign good players in 2021 they don't need Kevin Love to mess that up just to jump up 4-5 spots in a mediocre draft where the talent level is even
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