If the Spurs draft 11th

[Joe Schmoogins]

All aboard the Patrick Williams hype train

For anyone new to the thread, I had numerous posts with time stamped video links earlier in the thread

I think I'd want him if the Spurs moved to #3 or #4. #1 or #2, I'd try to trade down like Boston for Tatum and still take him.

Offensively I see the Kawhi potential. I might have Kawhi goggles on and he's really Earl Clark, but the dream lives on

I like Williams, but after seeing some tape I wonder if he's really 6'-8". Looks about the same height to me as Vassell. Maybe 6'-7" Which is still OK, but if he's closer to 6'-6" he loses a little of his appeal.

[objective]

I like Williams, but after seeing some tape I wonder if he's really 6'-8". Looks about the same height to me as Vassell. Maybe 6'-7" Which is still OK, but if he's closer to 6'-6" he loses a little of his appeal.

I have watched I don't know how many games of Williams, maybe 20?, And I never questioned his height. Unlike say Okoro who I just watched 1 game and would swear he's not 6-5.

Williams has other issues with his body. If you search Twitter you can find posts discussing possible leg issues with him with video clips. He does have massive thighs and probably needs some through attention from the trainers to maximize his physical potential

[DAF86]

I have watched I don't know how many games of Williams, maybe 20?, And I never questioned his height. Unlike say Okoro who I just watched 1 game and would swear he's not 6-5.

Williams has other issues with his body. If you search Twitter you can find posts discussing possible leg issues with him with video clips. He does have massive thighs and probably needs some through attention from the trainers to maximize his physical potential

What leg issues? Him having thick legs is actually a good thing to avoid injuries, tbh.

[objective]

What leg issues? Him having thick legs is actually a good thing to avoid injuries, tbh.

I don't remember exactly and would have to look it up later.

But I think the gist was a muscle imbalance, that his knee and foot would turn in on landing when jumping. I think there was something about this sort of thing explaining why his lateral speed or hip flipping was slow. I *think* some draftnik or physio suggested him decreasing the muscle mass in his legs.

Don't quote me on it, but it's out there

[Dejounte]

All aboard the Patrick Williams hype train

For anyone new to the thread, I had numerous posts with time stamped video links earlier in the thread

I think I'd want him if the Spurs moved to #3 or #4. #1 or #2, I'd try to trade down like Boston for Tatum and still take him.

Offensively I see the Kawhi potential. I might have Kawhi goggles on and he's really Earl Clark, but the dream lives on

I'm co-captain spent a lot of time defending Pat and convincing people on here that he's better than the tier Devin ing Vassell.

[BatManu20]

11 it is. Devin Vassell is gonna be the pick.

[DPG21920]

Would GS trade #2 for LMA

[Dejounte]

I don't remember exactly and would have to look it up later.

But I think the gist was a muscle imbalance, that his knee and foot would turn in on landing when jumping. I think there was something about this sort of thing explaining why his lateral speed or hip flipping was slow. I *think* some draftnik or physio suggested him decreasing the muscle mass in his legs.

Don't quote me on it, but it's out there

So we're trusting internet doctors?

[Dejounte]

11 it is. Devin Vassell is gonna be the pick.

Nahhhhh I swear to you it wont be.

[Chinook]

Would GS trade #2 for LMA

No, but they might do Murray and Gay along with 11 for 2 and Wiggins.

[Dejounte]

I like Williams, but after seeing some tape I wonder if he's really 6'-8". Looks about the same height to me as Vassell. Maybe 6'-7" Which is still OK, but if he's closer to 6'-6" he loses a little of his appeal.

https://www.instagram.com/p/B8g5YIQl...=1frclqebw8our

Pat is clearly taller than Devin in scrub Vassell

[DAF86]

No, but they might do Murray and Gay along with 11 for 2 and Wiggins.

Would the Spurs do that, though?

[200 miles]

No, but they might do Murray and Gay along with 11 for 2 and Wiggins.

Initially I fully supported that scenario but you have to wonder if Murray goes out in favor of drafting a big or a 3, it's an open guard spot that would tempt PATFO to re-sign Forbes.

[Dejounte]

No, but they might do Murray and Gay along with 11 for 2 and Wiggins.

Warriors will laugh and hang up

[Dejounte]

No, but they might do Murray and Gay along with 11 for 2 and Wiggins.

Warriors will laugh and hang up

[ace3g]

https://www.instagram.com/p/B8g5YIQl...=1frclqebw8our

Pat is clearly taller than Devin in scrub Vassell

I wish teams were required to post stock photos of players both in college/NBA so you can compare heights that way instead of by "listed height."

[KobesAchilles]

I like Vessell. He has size, shooting, and moves well on defense. All I can ask for at the 11th pick

[Dejounte]

I like Vessell. He has size, shooting, and moves well on defense. All I can ask for at the 11th pick

He doesnt have size. He would be guarding 1 to 3. We need someone to guard 2 to 4 or at least 3 to 4. Arent you ing tired of opposing forwards towering our midgets?

[Dejounte]

For instance, Michael Porter Jr would still have no problem abusing us like he did in the bubble game because Vassell is about 3" to 4" shorter than him.

[Dejounte]

Biggest ing myth that needs to be plastered everywhere: "Vassell has size". No. He doesn't.

[DAF86]

Biggest ing myth that needs to be plastered everywhere: "Vassell has size". No. He doesn't.

Vassell length is reported to be anywhere from 6'10" to 7 feet. That isn't small, tbh. For instance, Williams is reported to be only a foot longer, both in terms of height and wingspan.

[KobesAchilles]

He doesnt have size. He would be guarding 1 to 3. We need someone to guard 2 to 4 or at least 3 to 4. Arent you ing tired of opposing forwards towering our midgets?

I guess. He’s listed 6’7 which is Klay Thompson size. Idgaf about 4’s
Dame, CJ, Steph, Klay, Harden, Westbrook, Mitc , Kawhi, George (he plays small), Shay, CP3. These are the players I care about guarding. AD and Jokic are nothing to me. Lebron is now a 1

[Dejounte]

I guess. He’s listed 6’7 which is Klay Thompson size. Idgaf about 4’s
Dame, CJ, Steph, Klay, Harden, Westbrook, Mitc , Kawhi, George (he plays small), Shay, CP3. These are the players I care about guarding. AD and Jokic are nothing to me. Lebron is now a 1

Wtf? Theres a difference between what position they play and what size their position usually is. Im referring to the latter. LeBron is a 1 but you shouldnt have ing Murray guarding him. Weird argument you have here. Vassell doesnt have the size is my clear point. He cant guard Kawhi, George, or LeBron. Not Giannis, Siakam, and more.

[Dejounte]

Vassell length is reported to be anywhere from 6'10" to 7 feet. That isn't small, tbh. For instance, Williams is reported to be only a foot longer, both in terms of height and wingspan.

We've gone over this argument before and we probably will again until we receive the combine measurements.

My points have been:

1. He's 30 lb lighter than probably the average 3.5. He will get pushed around. And no, i dont believe in the mythical "he will gain muscle" argument. That's rare and he doesnt have the frame.
2. College tape shows his defense has been effective against shorter players. Not bigger ones. That was Pat's job.
3. As I said earlier, I think there's a bigger difference in size from Pat than you think.

Lets wait until the official combine numbers.

[DAF86]

Are there going to be combine numbers?