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I feel you on that, but if taking on Wiggins meant a chance to get Wiseman (who is my top choice), I would do it.
To be completely honest, I would rather draft Patrick at 11 than having to take on Wiggings and draft either Wiseman or Edwards, tbh.
I feel you on that, but if taking on Wiggins meant a chance to get Wiseman (who is my top choice), I would do it.
Skimmed through two games worth of sample in a 10 minutes period? That's how you do your scouting son?
Look, this seems like another instance in which we won't be seeing eye to eye. Don't take it personal, breathe, take your time and focus your attention to other more productive actions.
Nah, I'll tell you for this video. I went through every defensive possession when Devin's in the game. Still no evidence of Devin making any impact against forwards. You made it up son. Ill go through another video where I look at every defensive possession like this one.
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I definitely like Williams at 11 from the video I've seen and from what I've been reading about him but at this stage in his life, does Pop want to draft a project like him or someone more NBA-ready?
Skimmed through two games worth of sample in a 10 minutes period? That's how you do your scouting son?
Look, this seems like another instance in which we won't be seeing eye to eye. Don't take it personal, breathe, take your time and focus your attention to other more productive actions.
This is my second video where I looked at every defensive possession that included Vassell. Still no evidence of him truly defending forwards. I'm going to go through more videos and post them here to prove a ing point until someone shows me Vassell is a player who is good at guarding >6'7" and >220 lbs. He isnt a forward. He's a guard. Hes only being called a forward because his offense sucks. His best skill is defending guards, and he is not the "SF we need".
The schemes run by Florida State are VERY similar to the Spurs' style. This isnt another Lonnie situation. Pat will understand the X's and O's and the feel for the game.
Also lmao at posters who base assessments on highlight vids. “He’s a good shooter” of course he makes almost all of his shots in his highlight videos. Nuts
Pretty much 90% of people
Unless he's a dumbass or can't defend the perimeter, I see no reason not to pick Precious, which means he will probably be gone before 11.
Dude is big and fluid. He is going to get buckets.
3:50 vs a 6'8" 244 lbs player.
8:20 he's in the paint guarding the opossing center, then contests and blocks the slashing guard.
19:17 wins contested rebound over 6'9" guy.
43:12 not a defensive play but still a display of the impact he can have around the basket
47:02 another tipped rebound vs opposing towers
1:04:40 another great contest
1:04:55 look at the arms length on that rebound
Who says "X" player is a good shooter based on highlights? There are shooting stats for that.
Including you. Outside of me and objective I haven't seen anyone saying they have taken the time to watch full games.
Aaron Nesmith. He's gonna be Danny Green part two.
If Spurs want a Top3 pick, they could trade with the Hornets.
Derozan, #11 -> Batum, #3
Hornets need a SG (Derozan sign&trade), a SF (good options at #11) and a C
Batum has a player option and would be off the books after this season. With the 3rd pick the Spurs could go for a valuable young big and could also sign&trade Poeltl to the Hornets for a pick.
spurs need to select a scoring alpha ballhog to replace the lack of scoring from DD, LMA, patty, forbes...
Marcus Smart?
off. Youre not going take away from me the time ive spent watching games. My wife will ing tell you how pissed she is with me spending time examining players. Just because i watch condensed games doesnt negate my ability to scout or evaluate players better than you. Now that really pissed me off. you. you. you. Ive spent too much time on this to be put on the level of most people who just watch highlights. Youre a piece of to go that low. ass. you and your vanilla ass takes. Ive made more useful observations in this thread than your stupidass. I said Florida State had a full court press before you did. The bar isnt set at watching full games. I did the ones last night to appease you. i regret it now since clearly your ing eyes are biased towards one thing and one thing only... never admitting youre wrong. Your ass sets the bar at watching full games because youre a dumb who gives shallow ass statements and crowns yourself when you become right a tenth of the time. You dont take away the countless hours of time Ive spent on this. You just ing dont. If I knew your dumbass in real life, man....
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Hey mother er, this will be my last response to you because I don't take your ass seriously anymore since youre just trying to instigate . If you want to talk about this in person, you can tell me where you live and we can share our notes and have a friendly chat?
Out of all these time stamps, 3:50 is the only valid one. (Even Bryn Forbes stays in front of a big and made them miss once before)
The rest of these time stamps are bull to even mention, and you did it why?
1:04:40 was literally against a guard.
The ones you mention where he's out rebounding a big... We dont call Murray a great defender (if we ever did) against bigs and forwards when he outrebounds them, so why should we do it here? Your logic ing stinks.
Youre full of . you.
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Pokuševski, unless they can do a significant salary dump this summer. He’s #10 on Tankathons big board, and he’s young enough that he was barely eligible to declare this year, by just days. He’d probably be amenable to staying overseas, and off our cap, for a year. For a 7 footer, he’s got basketball skills, all around ones.
I actually think Vassell is okay, I just wouldn't take him over Williams, probably not over Achiuwa, undecided on Nesmith. Probably would like him more than Saddiq Bey.
The unfortunate thing is that pick #11 is dangerously close to the "6-3 and under" trench zone where Cole Anthony, Kira Lewis, Tyrese Maxey, Tyrell Terry etc all live.
I don't want anyone at 11 that's 6-3 or 6-4. I just don't think any stand out enough to get time, and that's without pretending that Mills or Forbes were off the roster.
So if Williams and Precious are off the board, maybe Nesmith also ... I'd be okay with Vassell.
I wouldn't love it. I don't think he's a SF. But it's more of a case of drafting the tallest most skilled player left.
I haven't watched any full Poku games but I might even want him before Vassell, if it's a swing for the fences.
I don't necessarily look at it as a bad thing, more like an opportunity.
If there's something with his body that can be addressed and fixed, and that can increase his effective athleticism with lateral speed on defense, then that's a great thing. That means he could be undervalued because he has hidden potential to improve movement on defense that may be unaccounted for.
And I think I trust the Spurs to fix it. With Kawhi they went out of house to fix his issues, and they would do whatever they could to maximize Williams.
Here's an interesting thing about Pat I've noticed from following his social media:
He doesn't follow thots. He follows and supports women's basketball. Unlike the many other prospects I see on social media where theyre following hundreds of thots, Pat is different. I think where your is, usually is where your head is. So this bodes well for Pat... Being half serious here.
Vecenie at The Athletic had a new mock drop after the lottery last night. He had Vassell at 10 and:
11. Nesmith
12. Williams
13. Saddiq Bey
14. Pokusevski
15. Hampton
16. Achiuwa
I've watched the games I had dvr-d for Williams, Vassell, Achiuwa and Nesmith, guess I need to watch some the 24 games of Saddiq Bey I have on there. I only have 3 of Obi but I do have 18 of Okongwu. I have 10 of Halliburton.
I'll try to crash through as many of those this weekend.
I literally can't think of a reasoning structure that'd be worse than that. If the Spurs used the 11th pick on a guy they could stash so they could save a bit of money, I might legit stop being a Spurs fan. That would be like Ultra Instinct Miluntov
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