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    I don't think Okoro is a good idea. Another short guy. But this one can't shoot.

    We already have perimeter D at the 2-guard spot.
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    I don't think Okoro is a good idea. Another short guy. But this one can't shoot.

    We already have perimeter D.
    I thought the same thing too and I avoided him like the plague because he was short. But I put the time in and I'm glad I did. Okoro's short, but he's chunky and strong. He's not a great shooter, but he's like Keldon on the drive. Fearless. We need more ballers like that.

    He defends taller players the same way PJ Tucker/ Derrick White does.

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    objective

    I'm watching a full game of Okoro now, and I dont think he looks 6'4". His wingspan looks incredibly short, and I just confirmed this and wow. Dude has no length at all. I won't let this turn me away from him yet, there can be some short dudes like Chuck Hayes who can be beasts on defense...

    The dude is obviously not a shooter, though he can slash to the basket with nice dribbling skills...

    Not that impressed yet.
    I thought the same thing too and I avoided him like the plague because he was short. But I put the time in and I'm glad I did. Okoro's short, but he's chunky and strong. He's not a great shooter, but he's like Keldon on the drive. Fearless. We need more ballers like that.

    He defends taller players the same way PJ Tucker/ Derrick White does.
    It sounds like we would be doubling up on Keldon when we really need a legit long and agile forward. We definitely need tough-minded ballers, but with varying skillsets. A 6'5 - 6'6 guy is just more glut at the 1 and 2 spots, which are already pretty much covered.

    I guess I'd take him given the impression that he was far and away better than guys at other positions who are available, but I really hope that's not who we come away with.

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    It sounds like we would be doubling up on Keldon when we really need a legit long and agile forward. We definitely need tough-minded ballers, but with varying skillsets. A 6'5 - 6'6 guy is just more glut at the 1 and 2 spots, which are already pretty much covered.

    I guess I'd take him given the impression that he was far and away better than guys at other positions who are available, but I really hope that's not who we come away with.
    Trust me, there's nothing I want more than a long and agile forward...

    I just would understand why Okoro would be drafted by the Spurs if it happened. And I hope Spur fans don't immediately dismiss it, because I agree that on the surface it looks like he will be unable to guard taller players, but the tape says otherwise...

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    Jalen Smith anyone? Modern big man , can shoot , block shot and run in transition , 6'10 225 7'2 wingspan, can supercharge our offense. late lottery riser.

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    Jalen Smith anyone? Modern big man , can shoot , block shot and run in transition , 6'10 225 7'2 wingspan, can supercharge our offense. late lottery riser.
    From what I've seen, very Serge Ibaka like. He's alright, I dont see a high upside but probably would be serviceable role player.

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    From what I've seen, very Serge Ibaka like. He's alright, I dont see a high upside but probably would be serviceable role player.
    Scouts thinks he's underitilized in Maryland thats why he's rising draft boards. Maybe a kuzma/mitc like situation. Some think he can shoot of movement and screens like Bertans. If he can be a movement shooter at C with rim protection he's your unicorn.

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    Updated tier list:

    Tier 1
    Deni Avdija
    Obi Toppin
    Isaac Okoro

    Tier 2
    Patrick Williams
    Precious Achiuwa
    Aaron Nesmith

    Tier 3
    Isaiah Stewart
    Jalen Smith
    Tyler Bey
    Robert Woodard II
    Zeke Nnaji
    Daniel Oturu
    Xavier Tillman
    Reggie Perry
    Paul Reed
    I'd have Wiseman in tier 1 as well but that's a good list

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    I don't think Okoro is a good idea. Another short guy. But this one can't shoot.

    We already have perimeter D at the 2-guard spot.
    I really think Okoro is the best defender of this draft, he can look short and as a 3 not what the spurs need ( more a 3/4 or 4/5) but he is athletic and the 3 pt can improve with the time.

    Not a bad choice imo

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    I really think Okoro is the best defender of this draft, he can look short and as a 3 not what the spurs need ( more a 3/4 or 4/5) but he is athletic and the 3 pt can improve with the time.

    Not a bad choice imo
    people are fixated on getting a big because there's a logjam at the guard/forward spots. BPA still the best strategy here and to use any of the young guys as trade chips for positions in which talent is lacking.

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    trade down with celtics and draft isaiah stewart and vernon

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    With a pick as high as #11 we should be hoping for a player that the rest of the team can complement in 2-3 years, rather than a player who best complements the existing team imo.

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    Updated tier list:

    Tier 1
    Deni Avdija
    Obi Toppin
    Isaac Okoro

    Tier 2
    Patrick Williams
    Precious Achiuwa
    Aaron Nesmith

    Tier 3
    Isaiah Stewart
    Jalen Smith
    Tyler Bey
    Robert Woodard II
    Zeke Nnaji
    Daniel Oturu
    Xavier Tillman
    Reggie Perry
    Paul Reed
    Is your tier list for players that could quite possibly be available at #11?

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    No first tier are player we should target in a trade and second tier are players who should be available to us at 11th pick. I am guessing...

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    Imo at the 11th pick if this makes any sense lol we get the last possible pick of the 1st tier guys or the first pick at the 2nd tier guys, It’s honestly not a bad spot to be in

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    Is your tier list for players that could quite possibly be available at #11?
    These are just my personal preferred targets

    For example,

    If at the 11th pick, any of the 1st tier guys are available, I would hope the Spurs pick them before any of the 2nd or 3rd tier guys.

    My list is constantly being updated as I watch more and more footage. Honestly torn if I would take Okoro over Pat still...

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    These are just my personal preferred targets

    For example,

    If at the 11th pick, any of the 1st tier guys are available, I would hope the Spurs pick them before any of the 2nd or 3rd tier guys.

    My list is constantly being updated as I watch more and more footage. Honestly torn if I would take Okoro over Pat still...
    Are you not bothering to include guys like Wiseman who are 99.999% likely to be gone by #11?

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    Are you not bothering to include guys like Wiseman who are 99.999% likely to be gone by #11?
    No, my list has nothing to do with players likey or not likely to be there at 11. It's just people I've spent some time watching. Wiseman might be one of those consensus top 5 guys, but I'm not going to go by anyone's word on that until I've done my homework (watching footage with my own eyes)

    Actually players I've spent watching arent on there either like Saddiq Bey and Vassell... I dont want either of those guys.

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    Updated tier list:

    Tier 1 I
    Deni Avdija
    Obi Toppin
    Isaac Okoro

    Tier 2
    Patrick Williams
    Precious Achiuwa
    Aaron Nesmith

    Tier 3
    Isaiah Stewart
    Jalen Smith
    Tyler Bey
    Robert Woodard II
    Zeke Nnaji
    Daniel Oturu
    Xavier Tillman
    Reggie Perry
    Paul Reed
    Nice list, big fan of Reggie Perry for the 2nd round pick. In terms of skill I saw some Diaw on offense during some of his highlights.

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    Nice list, big fan of Reggie Perry for the 2nd round pick. In terms of skill I saw some Diaw on offense during some of his highlights.
    I was big on Reggie Perry too... And then I followed him on social media and he just seemed immature and gave me Dejounte flashbacks... Then I started to notice the on court antics (showboating). The dude's personality would be a perfect Laker / Warrior. But maybe I'm looking too much into it.

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    I was big on Reggie Perry too... And then I followed him on social media and he just seemed immature and gave me Dejounte flashbacks... Then I started to notice the on court antics (showboating). The dude's personality would be a perfect Laker / Warrior. But maybe I'm looking too much into it.
    Gotcha, just looked over his twitter and I see what you’re talking about. At the very least I see he likes a lot of the same country things like Keldon does they may mesh well personality wise.

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    No, my list has nothing to do with players likey or not likely to be there at 11. It's just people I've spent some time watching. Wiseman might be one of those consensus top 5 guys, but I'm not going to go by anyone's word on that until I've done my homework (watching footage with my own eyes)

    Actually players I've spent watching arent on there either like Saddiq Bey and Vassell... I dont want either of those guys.
    Got it. I appreciate the effort, thanks for posting your conclusions and thoughts.

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    objective

    I'm watching a full game of Okoro now, and I dont think he looks 6'4". His wingspan looks incredibly short, and I just confirmed this and wow. Dude has no length at all. I won't let this turn me away from him yet, there can be some short dudes like Chuck Hayes who can be beasts on defense...

    The dude is obviously not a shooter, though he can slash to the basket with nice dribbling skills...

    Not that impressed yet.
    Yeah, since then I've watched Auburn vs Kentucky and Georgia, and at most he's 6-5 in shoes. He frequently guards point guards, and does a good job, but is also guarded by them. Against Kentucky he didn't look much bigger than Maxey the other guard and both are listed at 6-3.

    Anthony Edwards looked maybe the same height, if anything Okoro was a slightly smaller.

    But he is like Keldon, can attack the rim. Moves his feet really well, plays hard.

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    people are fixated on getting a big because there's a logjam at the guard/forward spots. BPA still the best strategy here and to use any of the young guys as trade chips for positions in which talent is lacking.
    I agree.. the Spurs aren't contending for a le next season, so the only important thing is development and amassing assets. And along those same lines, I'd say the best can be the guy who's best in two years as opposed to next season.

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    I have so much going on in irl that I'm totally blind on this draft... using dat thread keeping in touch so thanks to everybody feeding us with the info

    On a side note also thanks for this weird feud between DAF and Dejounte.. entertaining reaching the you level

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