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    Changing subjects, watching Poku developing on Austin would be pretty fun, tbh. Depending how the San Antonio season goes, we might actually get more excited about G-league games than NBA ones.
    Maybe, but if the season goes in such a way that the big club isn't exciting, I think they'd bring Poke up. They would be drafting him because they see star potential, so I don't think they'd leave him in Austin during a lost season. He's not raw. He's just skinny, and d-leaguers aren't especially smaller than NBA players.

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    Also if we do draft him his buy out is a cool 1 million so that pretty much means he would have to be a draft and stash?

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    Also if we do draft him his buy out is a cool 1 million so that pretty much means he would have to be a draft and stash?
    I don't see why using part of the MLE would be an issue? Like we did paying for Metu's rookie contract.

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    This place slobbered all over Bismack Biyombo back in 2011, due to his "ridiculous upside". But it didn't think too much of guys like Vucevic, Bogdanivic, or Tobias Harris. There are going to be some impact guys in this draft, and at least a couple at the 11 pick. I would much rather see the Spurs pick a boring, solid contributor.

    FYI - how many of you knew that he missed 3 months with a knee condition that a lot of scouts attribute directly to his skeleton frame?

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    But that was a real NBA skill. Bertans was one of the best shooters in the world, at a time when guys is height weren't known for being good shooters. That was always going to get him a shot. Had he been drafted by a team that wanted to bring him over right away, Davis would've been able to play spot minutes right away. Poke doesn't have any NBA-level skills as far as we know. Objective was pointing out that bigger players don't tend to get perimeter play-making roles, and that's not simply because coaches are dumb. Biomechanically speaking, guards tend to be better at that. Poke has to show he has a floor game comparable if not better than the average NBA guard to get the ball in those situations. For Bertans, nothing about his shooting depended on level of compe ion, especially back in 2011 when the NBA used a lot more spot-up shooting to provide spacing.
    And at some point, big men were NOT encouraged to shoot the long ball. That changed. Now, with players like Doncic, Freak, Simmons, and Jokic, teams and coaches are seeing the value of having someone taller than 6’4” make plays for others.

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    Also if we do draft him his buy out is a cool 1 million so that pretty much means he would have to be a draft and stash?
    Buyout will be 1.5 millions if Spurs draft him at 11 I believe. But the Spurs would only need to pay 750 K, the rest is on Poku.

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    FYI - how many of you knew that he missed 3 months with a knee condition that a lot of scouts attribute directly to his skeleton frame?
    Knee injury. "Condition" makes it seem like a Kawhi's chronical quad thing, tbh. But, yeah, that's definitely something to keep an eye on.

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    Also if we do draft him his buy out is a cool 1 million so that pretty much means he would have to be a draft and stash?
    Nah. First, there's a certain amount teams are allowed to pay for buyouts that doesn't count against the cap. That's already near a million. Then the rest would have to come from the player.

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    Knee injury. "Condition" makes it seem like a Kawhi's chronical quad thing, tbh. But, yeah, that's definitely something to keep an eye on.

    I called it a condition because they were sort of evasive about it at the time it happened. They're calling it an injury, but I understand that there is talk that it was an overuse/stress injury - which, at his age would not be a good thing. Throw in his super-light frame, and it's at least a caution flag.

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    I called it a condition because they were sort of evasive about it at the time it happened. They're calling it an injury, but I understand that there is talk that it was an overuse/stress injury - which, at his age would not be a good thing. Throw in his super-light frame, and it's at least a caution flag.
    Well, get our doctors to look at it. That's all you can really do to make a decision - they were right about Kwitter's quad afterall...

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    Yeah that raises a flag same with Nesmith they both in my top 4 but if any injury concerns I would be more then happy with Precious or Smith.

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    Someone made an accurate comment about Poku's height. He's really more like 6'9" if you subtract the excess length on his neck (or I guess 6'11", if he has grown). Someone made a comment about Keldon like this before where the opposite was true. Keldon had a short neck, but seems taller than he is.

    Not that it matters much, as it's his playmaking that is the appeal. If Keldon is a mustang, then Poku is a wild boar. His playstyle is just ing crazy. We will see what the Spurs think in two months...

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    Someone made an accurate comment about Poku's height. He's really more like 6'9" if you subtract the excess length on his neck (or I guess 6'11", if he has grown). Someone made a comment about Keldon like this before where the opposite was true. Keldon had a short neck.

    Not that it matters much, as it's his playmaking that is the appeal. If Keldon is a mustang, then Poku is a wild boar. His playstyle is just ing crazy. We will see what the Spurs think in two months...
    It also doesn't matter because his wignspan is 7'3". The dude will get rebounds, blocks and steals with his hands, not with his shoulders, tbh. Him being shorter on the body is actually a good thing for his coordination/movement.

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    And him having a long neck gives him a vision advantage. Long arms, shorter body, long neck is actually a pretty neat build for a basketball player now that I think about it, tbh.

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    Not that it matters, but you get rebounds and blocks with standing reach, not height or wingspan. This would suggest Poke will have a short SR than one would expect, just as Keldon has a longer one than his height or wingspan would suggest. Certainly that won't be the thing that determines Poke's fate in the NBA, but biomechanics aren't just one number.

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    Not that it matters, but you get rebounds and blocks with standing reach, not height or wingspan. This would suggest Poke will have a short SR than one would expect, just as Keldon has a longer one than his height or wingspan would suggest. Certainly that won't be the thing that determines Poke's fate in the NBA, but biomechanics aren't just one number.
    You are right, standing reach is still pretty dope at 9'1" though.

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    Someone made an accurate comment about Poku's height. He's really more like 6'9" if you subtract the excess length on his neck (or I guess 6'11", if he has grown). Someone made a comment about Keldon like this before where the opposite was true. Keldon had a short neck, but seems taller than he is.

    Not that it matters much, as it's his playmaking that is the appeal. If Keldon is a mustang, then Poku is a wild boar. His playstyle is just ing crazy. We will see what the Spurs think in two months...
    OK, you can’t just say that someone who has MEASURED at 7’0” is really 6’9” because you think his neck is too long.

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    OK, you can’t just say that someone who has MEASURED at 7’0” is really 6’9” because you think his neck is too long.
    Not going to engage because you're failing to see my point here...

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    Not going to engage because you're failing to see my point here...
    Could you state it a little more clearly?

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    You are right, standing reach is still pretty dope at 9'1" though.
    Interesting fact about this standing reach thing is that the only non-bigmen to have entered a draft with a 9'1" standing reach or longer are Giannis, Durant and Ingram. Bodes well for Poku's aspirations at making it on this level, tbh.

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    That's if Poke can make it as a perimeter player. Both KD and GA are legit unicorns, and Ingram... Well he tries.

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    That's if Poke can make it as a perimeter player. Both KD and GA are legit unicorns, and Ingram... Well he tries.
    I have little doubts about Poku's perimeter skills. Him being to handle the ball on the perimeter won't be an issue, tbh. For comparisson's sake, Poku's ballhandling skills are a lot better than Giannis' when he was drafted, and Giannis clearly didn't have a problem transitioning that to the NBA. Don't worry about that son. Poku's question marks come from his weight, body holding up and him proving he will be able to not be a one on one defensive liability.

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    Poku's last official standing reach measurement was longer than that of Poeltl or Anthony Davis... Non issue.

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    Could you state it a little more clearly?
    No. Others here have already explained it. I'll give you a hint though: you don't play basketball using your head.

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    No. Others here have already explained it. I'll give you a hint though: you don't play basketball using your head.
    Watching the actual Dejounte play, I tend to agree with this

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