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    Tik Tok undefeated

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    EDIT - That donation map is a great example of how much bluer Pennsylvania is that Ohio.
    I hope you're right.

    But why the is it so close? Biden is in margin of error territory now over there.

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    I hope you're right.

    But why the is it so close? Biden is in margin of error territory now over there.
    My personal opinion is that immigration more than any other issue has made the rust belt more red. The Republicans have been able to successfully paint Democrats at the party of open borders (largely because of re ed ideas like giving illegals free healthcare).

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    Yes

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    Before kool-aid

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    Yes

    Love from the people’s temple

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    clambake haiku

    not enough syllables per

    he is a got

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    I hope you're right.

    But why the is it so close? Biden is in margin of error territory now over there.
    Some good news, Marist College (same pollster Trumpers were rubbing one out to yesterday for a poll showing Trump tied in Florida) released a poll today showing Biden up +9 in Pennsylvania.

    The USC Dornsife poll also has Biden back up to his pre-convention margin. It's gone from Biden +8/+9 to Biden +11/+15 in the last week. I think the voter sample its using is skewed to the left, but the fact Biden has gained so much among the same random group of voters in the last week tells me the law and order message isn't doing .

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    Some good news, Marist College (same pollster Trumpers were rubbing one out to yesterday for a poll showing Trump tied in Florida) released a poll today showing Biden up +9 in Pennsylvania.

    The USC Dornsife poll also has Biden back up to his pre-convention margin. It's gone from Biden +8/+9 to Biden +11/+15 in the last week. I think the voter sample its using is skewed to the left, but the fact Biden has gained so much among the same random group of voters in the last week tells me the law and order message isn't doing .
    reality is, trump isn’t going to appeal to any new people. He’s exclusively catered only to his base. He’s not adding significant numbers.

    “independents” that handwring about both sides, are trumpers in nature. They just know that decent society would look at them like the that they are.

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    clambake haiku

    not enough syllables per

    he is a got
    you calling anyone else a name when you live with your parents, have no job, and have never ever touched a girl, is one of the all time ironic, and lack of self awareness, examples ever posted on the internet.

    you are the very definition of a loser. I hope you’re actually re ed. That would at least be an excuse for being a completely worthless piece of . Otherwise, you could quite conceivably be a bigger embarrassment to the species than ducks and spurtacular put together

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    reality is, trump isn’t going to appeal to any new people. He’s exclusively catered only to his base. He’s not adding significant numbers.

    “independents” that handwring about both sides, are trumpers in nature. They just know that decent society would look at them like the that they are.
    Yeah that’s nothing new. The “both sides are equally bad!” independents just say both sides are bad to justify voting Republican.

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    I hope you're right.

    But why the is it so close? Biden is in margin of error territory now over there.
    Biden has talked another shutdown if Covid cases rise.

    67% of PA voters in the latest Susquehanna Poll(most accurate PA poll in 2016) indicated they do not want another shut down(91% of GOP) if that happens.

    And if you read the break downs of these polls, it's not uncommon for folks to admit they aren't actually voting for Joe, they are voting agaisnt Trump. So there's enthusiasm there, but maybe not the right kind of enthusiasm.

    I expect Joe to remain ahead by 5 or so points in PA and a few other places until Trump actually starts hitting him with ads. As of right now, Biden is killing him with the ads:

    https://www.inquirer.com/politics/el...-20200908.html

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    Barr continues to ramp up his role as Trash's personal defense lawyer,

    using taxpayers resources to defend Trump for libel about rape he committed as a private person


    the rapee "has the receipt" (Trash's on her dress), and wants a DNA test of Trash.

    U.S. Justice Department asks to defend Trump in rape accuser’s defamation lawsuit

    The U.S. Justice Department is seeking to take over President Trump’s defense in a defamation lawsuit from a writer who has accused him of rape, and

    federal lawyers asked a court Tuesday to allow a move that could put

    the American people on the hook for any money she might be awarded.

    Justice Department lawyers filed court papers Tuesday

    aiming to shift the case into federal court and to subs ute the U.S. for Trump as the defendant.

    That would mean the federal government, rather than Trump himself, might have to pay damages if any are awarded.

    The filing complicates, at least for the moment,

    Carroll’s efforts to get a DNA sample from the president as potential evidence and

    to have him answer questions under oath.

    Justice Department lawyers argue that

    Trump was “acting within the scope of his office” when he denied Carroll’s allegations,

    made last year, that he raped her in a New York luxury department store in the mid-1990s.

    She says his comments — including that she was “totally lying” to sell a memoir — besmirched her character and harmed her career.

    https://www.latimes.com/politics/sto...mation-lawsuit

    Trash "denied" Carroll? lawyer weasel words. He called Carroll a LIAR.



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    Biden has talked another shutdown if Covid cases rise.

    67% of PA voters in the latest Susquehanna Poll(most accurate PA poll in 2016) indicated they do not want another shut down(91% of GOP) if that happens.

    And if you read the break downs of these polls, it's not uncommon for folks to admit they aren't actually voting for Joe, they are voting agaisnt Trump. So there's enthusiasm there, but maybe not the right kind of enthusiasm.

    I expect Joe to remain ahead by 5 or so points in PA and a few other places until Trump actually starts hitting him with ads. As of right now, Biden is killing him with the ads:

    https://www.inquirer.com/politics/el...-20200908.html
    There’s still pro Trump PACs running negative Biden ads in Pennsylvania, the average voter won’t know the difference between a negative Biden ad from Trump’s campaign vs a negative Biden ad from whatever Super PAC that has “America First” in its name. It’s not like Trump running ads in Pennsylvania will be the first time those voters are exposed to negative stories about Biden, there’s hundreds of Trump PACs out there.

    That Susquehanna poll had a sample that was skewed. 40.8% of the voters it sampled were from the Democrat leaning areas in Pennsylvania (Philly, Philly suburbs and Allegheny county) when those areas made up 45.8% of total voters in 2016. Meanwhile 7.6% of those polled were from Northwest PA (an area that went heavily for Trump) when that same area was only 4.4% of the electorate in 2016. If the Susquehanna poll reflects what actual turnout on Election Day looks like it means Biden will have been even worse at turning out voters than Hillary was which seems really unlikely.

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    Outside Cubans, nobody largely likes him in the latino community, tbh... on top of that, latinos are a demographic that doesn't have a large turnout. I remember Shillary polling great with Latinos in Florida, they just didn't go vote.
    I read that less than 18% of registered Latinos actually voted in 2016. Not sure what the total % of Latino population actually registered. Pretty sure the actual voter turnout for the Latino community was less than 10% though.

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    How do you figure?

    I get a sense PA is becoming the next Iowa. Once reliable blue state becomes indotrinated by deranged ideals of the right.

    Off topic note:


    I guess Trump's campaign is really going broke if not already broke.
    with family in Iowa, I can tell you no with no uncertainty that iowa, the Dakotas, non TC Minnesota, and non Omaha Nebraska, will be Mississippi within a generation.

    the only thing that saves Iowa from already becoming that is the four areas largest population centers are where all the black people live. It gives the illusion of diversity, because they elect a few democratic congress people.


    but like Texas, when you get out of the metropolitan areas, it’s deep red

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    I read that less than 18% of registered Latinos actually voted in 2016. Not sure what the total % of Latino population actually registered. Pretty sure the actual voter turnout for the Latino community was less than 10% though.
    I'm su ious of that figure... but regardless I'm sure the number is low. That said, what does it mean if they actually start voting? I bet the turnout for Latinos is much much higher in 2020.

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    with family in Iowa, I can tell you no with no uncertainty that iowa, the Dakotas, non TC Minnesota, and non Omaha Nebraska, will be Mississippi within a generation.

    the only thing that saves Iowa from already becoming that is the four areas largest population centers are where all the black people live. It gives the illusion of diversity, because they elect a few democratic congress people.


    but like Texas, when you get out of the metropolitan areas, it’s deep red
    Aren’t the rural parts of Iowa, the Dakotas and non Omaha Nebraska already Mississippi? Northwest Iowa had a full blown admitted white supremacist as its congressman for 15+ years until the GOP establishment went out of its way blackball him.

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    Aren’t the rural parts of Iowa, the Dakotas and non Omaha Nebraska already Mississippi? Northwest Iowa had a full blown admitted white supremacist as its congressman for 15+ years until the GOP establishment went out of its way blackball him.
    they hid it better, and cited national dem reps. and voting dem in presidential elections

    They’ve now dropped all pretense. Attacked education at the state and local level, and raised their bibles.

    the western part of Iowa was always that way. Now it’s statewide. I also have an old college roommate from there, whose a State Representative.

    let’s just say much of that state were racist piece trumper’s before it became the Republican Party

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    I'm su ious of that figure... but regardless I'm sure the number is low. That said, what does it mean if they actually start voting? I bet the turnout for Latinos is much much higher in 2020.
    What does it mean if any hypothetical comes to fruition?

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    Trash's personal defense lawyer Billy Barr is very probably getting ready to
    shutdown,
    amicably "settle", and above all silence

    DoJ investigations of Trash and Deutsche Bank

    by getting a legal and personal friend of decades hired as defense lawyer for DB.

    Embattled Deutsche Bank taps long-time Bill Barr ally for legal representation

    One of Deutsche Bank’s most famous customers has been President Donald

    Trump, and Deutsche’s activities —including its dealings with Trump — have been the subject of investigations by prosecutors as well as members of Congress.

    The German bank,
    Bloomberg News is reporting, has hired attorney Robert Kimmitt — whose relationship with Attorney General William Barr goes back to the late 1980s — to represent it in Washington, D.C.

    https://www.rawstory.com/2020/09/embattled-deutsche-bank-taps-long-time-bill-barr-ally-for-legal-representation-report

    no doubt that there will illegal collusion between Barr and Kimmitt to protect Trash



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    Barr continues to ramp up his role as Trash's personal defense lawyer,

    using taxpayers resources to defend Trump for libel about rape he committed as a private person


    the rapee "has the receipt" (Trash's on her dress), and wants a DNA test of Trash.

    U.S. Justice Department asks to defend Trump in rape accuser’s defamation lawsuit

    The U.S. Justice Department is seeking to take over President Trump’s defense in a defamation lawsuit from a writer who has accused him of rape, and

    federal lawyers asked a court Tuesday to allow a move that could put

    the American people on the hook for any money she might be awarded.

    Justice Department lawyers filed court papers Tuesday

    aiming to shift the case into federal court and to subs ute the U.S. for Trump as the defendant.

    That would mean the federal government, rather than Trump himself, might have to pay damages if any are awarded.

    The filing complicates, at least for the moment,

    Carroll’s efforts to get a DNA sample from the president as potential evidence and

    to have him answer questions under oath.

    Justice Department lawyers argue that

    Trump was “acting within the scope of his office” when he denied Carroll’s allegations,

    made last year, that he raped her in a New York luxury department store in the mid-1990s.

    She says his comments — including that she was “totally lying” to sell a memoir — besmirched her character and harmed her career.

    https://www.latimes.com/politics/sto...mation-lawsuit

    Trash "denied" Carroll? lawyer weasel words. He called Carroll a LIAR.

    "moving the case to federal court where

    federal officials are generally immune from charges of defamation.

    Such a move would effectively

    bring Carroll’s case

    — stemming from accusations that Trump raped her in the 1990s —

    to an end."

    https://odaction.com/barr-intervenes...ONaH-ErviDrc5Q
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    What does it mean if any hypothetical comes to fruition?
    What do you think it means? Do you think Trump is more popular than not with Latinos?

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    I read that less than 18% of registered Latinos actually voted in 2016. Not sure what the total % of Latino population actually registered. Pretty sure the actual voter turnout for the Latino community was less than 10% though.
    Yeah, I just remember discussing this last election with bene or baseline bum, don't remember. Basically, fanbois getting excited about getting an edge with latinos, when they just don't ing vote.

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    I've read that only if TX Latinos would vote, TX would turn blue

    Among the Latino men, there is a Macho Man culture that would push them to vote for fake-Macho-Man Repugs.

    Maybe the pandemic would prove the Repugs don't give the tiniest about Latino lives (only about Latino votes)


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    Do you happen to have a link to the amount of $$ spent by pro-Trump ads in PA vs all the pro-Biden's ads?

    And I also do not know if Trump is falling short in fundraising and that is why he is pledging to use his own cash, or if this is strategic and he is purposely waiting to unload them. If it's the former, then it's a bad sign for the GOP.

    There’s still pro Trump PACs running negative Biden ads in Pennsylvania, the average voter won’t know the difference between a negative Biden ad from Trump’s campaign vs a negative Biden ad from whatever Super PAC that has “America First” in its name. It’s not like Trump running ads in Pennsylvania will be the first time those voters are exposed to negative stories about Biden, there’s hundreds of Trump PACs out there.

    That Susquehanna poll had a sample that was skewed. 40.8% of the voters it sampled were from the Democrat leaning areas in Pennsylvania (Philly, Philly suburbs and Allegheny county) when those areas made up 45.8% of total voters in 2016. Meanwhile 7.6% of those polled were from Northwest PA (an area that went heavily for Trump) when that same area was only 4.4% of the electorate in 2016. If the Susquehanna poll reflects what actual turnout on Election Day looks like it means Biden will have been even worse at turning out voters than Hillary was which seems really unlikely.

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