[Part II] Who is SpursTalk's favorite 2020 draft prospect heading into October?

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Keldon was mocked in top 10 early on and for what ever reason dropped like a rock not that I am complaining

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Patrick
Nesmith
Lewis Jr
Smith

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Smith
Patrick
Poku
Kira

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From NBASupes, hawks alleged insider:

I am hearing it's in this order as well. Okoro is the Hawks top guy. Deni is 2nd and Obi is 3rd. I am hearing they are doing their homework on Okongwu and Smith. A lot of people would be shocked Smith at 4 but I am not. He's a 3&D 5 who can play interchangeablely at the 4. NY, Washington, Phoenix, San Antonio, Sacramento and Boston are all high on him and that's just in the lottery. He is the big mover.

Smith's stock is soaring.

[XDT76]

From NBASupes, hawks alleged insider:



Smith's stock is soaring.

Looks like he won't be there at 11.

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I think he will be there still a lot of time before draft more guys will rise and fall like every draft year.

[Dejounte]

From NBASupes, hawks alleged insider:



Smith's stock is soaring.

Not shocking. I ing called it (Smith being pretty ing good and could be a riser when he was being mocked at #20) before anyone. Players rise and players fall. To base all your analysis on mock drafts is idiotic. I suggest constantly to anyone to watch the player, and not rely on scouting reports.

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Smith looks like another high floor/low ceiling type.

His passing and lateral quickness probably aren't good enough to primarily play 4, which would render him best suited to primarily playing 5, where he'll likely be giving up some on the glass/in the post in certain matchups. That archetype is a third big.

That's fine, but it'd be difficult to pass up a high floor/low ceiling wing for that.

[Sugus]

Smith looks like another high floor/low ceiling type.

His passing and lateral quickness probably aren't good enough to primarily play 4, which would render him best suited to primarily playing 5, where he'll likely be giving up some on the glass/in the post in certain matchups. That archetype is a third big.

That's fine, but it'd be difficult to pass up a high floor/low ceiling wing for that.

Why though? I'd much rather have a high floor/low ceiling big, than a wing of the same type, tbh. Considering the importance and relevance of wings to the modern NBA, and how the big man has been progressively fading out (unless you're an AD kind of big, which doesn't fit this mold), if you gave me the chance of having a high-ceiling prospect, I would for sure have it be a wing rather than a big. In fact, I've been saying for a while the Spurs have to select a big in this draft, then tank out the season and shoot for the stars with a lottery pick in the loaded '21 draft, which just so happens to have major wing prospects. Doesn't make sense to pick a low-ceiling wing now and then tank for one the very next season.

E: and beyond that, I'm not really sold on the idea that Smith is low-ceiling, he's got a lot of athletic upside and a high BBIQ with which he could develop his passing game, not to mention his shooting. Herro was considered a high-floor, low ceiling prospect and now he's looking like a major future piece for the Heat.

[Dejounte]

Smith looks like another high floor/low ceiling type.

His passing and lateral quickness probably aren't good enough to primarily play 4, which would render him best suited to primarily playing 5, where he'll likely be giving up some on the glass/in the post in certain matchups. That archetype is a third big.

That's fine, but it'd be difficult to pass up a high floor/low ceiling wing for that.

A "third big" becomes a "first big" when you consider what the Spurs have:

Aldridge and his uncertain future with the Spurs. Age affecting his speed (can he keep up anymore?) and injury concerns (is the shoulder injury a sign of things to come?)

Lyles and his net zero contribution. Barely any upside with Lyles and is way too soft to be counted on in the playoffs.

Poetl and his uncertain future with the Spurs. Provides little to nothing on offense.

And somehow Jalen can't topple any of these guys and is labeled a "third big"? Why? Because we really believe he can't defend the likes of MPJ, Jerami Grant, Morris brothers, Millsaps, Covingtons, and so forth? Because he was played out of position in college at 5, so we have to cement his position at 5? He could very well be a 5, but his supposed lack of lateral quickness is being very overstated on here. It's as if having unrealistic expectations for any big now and how they must all be able to be ing quick laterally... Ignoring the fact that you have Jokic out there doing a sufficient job switching with his slow lateral speed.

As far as "low ceiling" goes, if he averages or flashes games anywhere near 15 pts / 10 rebs, this absurd expectation will be all but forgotten.

[Sugus]

A "third big" becomes a "first big" when you consider what the Spurs have:

Aldridge and his uncertain future with the Spurs. Age affecting his speed (can he keep up anymore?) and injury concerns (is the shoulder injury a sign of things to come?)

Lyles and his net zero contribution. Barely any upside with Lyles and is way too soft to be counted on in the playoffs.

Poetl and his uncertain future with the Spurs. Provides little to nothing on offense.

And somehow Jalen can't topple any of these guys and is labeled a "third big"? Why? Because we really believe he can't defend the likes of MPJ, Jerami Grant, Morris brothers, Millsaps, Covingtons, and so forth? Because he was played out of position in college at 5, so we have to cement his position at 5? He could very well be a 5, but his supposed lack of lateral quickness is being very overstated on here. It's as if having unrealistic expectations for any big now and how they must all be able to be ing quick laterally... Ignoring the fact that you have Jokic out there doing a sufficient job switching with his slow lateral speed.

As far as "low ceiling" goes, if he averages or flashes games anywhere near 15 pts / 10 rebs, this absurd expectation will be all but forgotten.

Beat ya to it

[Dejounte]

There were questions about Keldon's lateral speed early on (and maybe even now) which made people put a lower cap on his ceiling but that cap is higher now as soon as people saw the intangibles, the physicality, and toughness he brings. Keldon's athleticism didn't blow you away, and for some reason, people put a lot of stock into that when judging prospects. There's so much more, and for Jalen, it's his basketball IQ and his toughness that makes him a worthy pick in my eyes. Lord knows we need both of those things desperately on the Spurs.

[XDT76]

Smith looks like another high floor/low ceiling type.

His passing and lateral quickness probably aren't good enough to primarily play 4, which would render him best suited to primarily playing 5, where he'll likely be giving up some on the glass/in the post in certain matchups. That archetype is a third big.

That's fine, but it'd be difficult to pass up a high floor/low ceiling wing for that.

His low ceiling seems to be higher than any of our current bigs on the roster.

[wildbill2u]

By BPA, if you mean if a player drops, see below:

Sometimes a player who falls and was consistently mocked in the top 10 isn't the best player available. It's foolishness and the biggest lie when it comes to the draft. If it was true, we wouldn't have a 30% success rate for players drafted in the top 10. Proof is in the pudding and too many casuals fall for this .

Not at all. I want the FO and coaches to determine their rating of the players. If they think the best player available is a player from nowhereistan that no one is looking at, I'll hope that they are finding another gem in the lower rungs of the draft and can't wait to get him. Unlikely scenario, but that's what I meant to say. I don't care what other organizations think about the best player available.

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Why though? I'd much rather have a high floor/low ceiling big, than a wing of the same type, tbh. Considering the importance and relevance of wings to the modern NBA, and how the big man has been progressively fading out (unless you're an AD kind of big, which doesn't fit this mold), if you gave me the chance of having a high-ceiling prospect, I would for sure have it be a wing rather than a big. In fact, I've been saying for a while the Spurs have to select a big in this draft, then tank out the season and shoot for the stars with a lottery pick in the loaded '21 draft, which just so happens to have major wing prospects. Doesn't make sense to pick a low-ceiling wing now and then tank for one the very next season.

E: and beyond that, I'm not really sold on the idea that Smith is low-ceiling, he's got a lot of athletic upside and a high BBIQ with which he could develop his passing game, not to mention his shooting. Herro was considered a high-floor, low ceiling prospect and now he's looking like a major future piece for the Heat.

In either scenario, leaning wing is probably more prudent. Of course, these decisions have to be made on a case by case basis though.

It'd be foolish to project ahead a year in terms of drafting for a certain position now because of what might happen then.

Herro is a three level scorer and play maker. Smith isn't becoming that and he doesn't really have a true defensive position. As we've seen with Bertans, it's difficult for that type to be a starter.

A "third big" becomes a "first big" when you consider what the Spurs have:

Aldridge and his uncertain future with the Spurs. Age affecting his speed (can he keep up anymore?) and injury concerns (is the shoulder injury a sign of things to come?)

Lyles and his net zero contribution. Barely any upside with Lyles and is way too soft to be counted on in the playoffs.

Poetl and his uncertain future with the Spurs. Provides little to nothing on offense.

And somehow Jalen can't topple any of these guys and is labeled a "third big"? Why? Because we really believe he can't defend the likes of MPJ, Jerami Grant, Morris brothers, Millsaps, Covingtons, and so forth? Because he was played out of position in college at 5, so we have to cement his position at 5? He could very well be a 5, but his supposed lack of lateral quickness is being very overstated on here. It's as if having unrealistic expectations for any big now and how they must all be able to be ing quick laterally... Ignoring the fact that you have Jokic out there doing a sufficient job switching with his slow lateral speed.

As far as "low ceiling" goes, if he averages or flashes games anywhere near 15 pts / 10 rebs, this absurd expectation will be all but forgotten.

Things don't work like that. Sports, like life, are fluid, not static. I'm speaking to Smith's ideal projected role, as in on a good team, this is where he'd likely slot in.

He can probably defend most of those types, but they'd probably need an elite passing 5 to pull it off (especially with Murray, for now, entrenched). The bigger question is, can he defend the big wing starting 4's.

Jokic is a horrible comparison. He's a transcendent offensive player and an excellent rebounder, so you'll live with his defensive limitations (he also has a clear defensive position, at least).

Counting stats without context are irrelevant and "this absurd expectation" is probably the consensus. Doesn't mean he can't surpass it, but you don't see many starting 4's like him today.

His low ceiling seems to be higher than any of our current bigs on the roster.

As if that's a standard for selecting someone 11th.

[Dejounte]

In either scenario, leaning wing is probably more prudent. Of course, these decisions have to be made on a case by case basis though.

It'd be foolish to project ahead a year in terms of drafting for a certain position now because of what might happen then.

Herro is a three level scorer and play maker. Smith isn't becoming that and he doesn't really have a true defensive position. As we've seen with Bertans, it's difficult for that type to be a starter.




Things don't work like that. Sports, like life, are fluid, not static. I'm speaking to Smith's ideal projected role, as in on a good team, this is where he'd likely slot in.

He can probably defend most of those types, but they'd probably need an elite passing 5 to pull it off (especially with Murray, for now, entrenched). The bigger question is, can he defend the big wing starting 4's.

Jokic is a horrible comparison. He's a transcendent offensive player and an excellent rebounder, so you'll live with his defensive limitations (he also has a clear defensive position, at least).

Counting stats without context are irrelevant and "this absurd expectation" is probably the consensus. Doesn't mean he can't surpass it, but you don't see many starting 4's like him today.




As if that's a standard for selecting someone 11th.

Why is passing a required skill from the 4 position all of a sudden? Is it because we're forecasting a bit much about the type of system this team needs to play, making it more static and not fluid? Guarding big wing 4's isn't a requirement either, the Spurs have had their liabilities in the past and it's something they game plan around-- not build their roster for it. Regardless, it's still early and not enough indication that Jalen would be unable to so, just like all believed that Keldon had not enough lateral speed to defend the likes of Red and Westbrook. And though you may not believe it yet, Jalen has more qualities going for him to make up for any deficiencies.

[Dejounte]

The truth is in one of your last sentences: "you don't see many starting 4's like him today". This should be seen in a positive light if he gets drafted, giving the Spurs an edge using a player other teams are not accustomed to playing against... And not the other way around. When you have a big who has potential to shoot lights out from anywhere AND be physical in the inside, that's a tough defensive assignment.

[Sugus]

In either scenario, leaning wing is probably more prudent. Of course, these decisions have to be made on a case by case basis though.

Why is that though? Please explain. Is "leaning wing" for every single draft pick "more prudent"? What is "prudent" anyways? Sounds like a lot of buzzwords... I repeat - if faced with the option to have only one low-ceiling, and one high-ceiling prospect, the way the league is trending is such that you'd prefer "leaning wing" for the high-ceiling prospect and choose the big with the lower ceiling, since the modern game is fueled by big wings and modern big men are either disappearing, shrinking in average size, getting played off the floor, or can't even carry their team to the playoffs (like AD). Even star big men aren't as game-changing as they were. Why would you select 2 wings, in different drafts, given the Spurs' glaring hole at the 4 and 5?

Even if you think Luka is star-bound, which is far from a given, he's not ready yet, and the next body at PF is either the corpse of Rudy Gay, or bench-piece-made-starter Lyles. The C position is a similar problem for us, with Poeltl hardly being a serviceable starter and the next man up being third-stringer Eubanks (I'm assuming the Spurs will deal LMA in the off-season). There are simply no bigs in the pipeline at the moment. Meanwhile, it's looking like we've drafted our SF of the future already in Keldon, with both Lonnie and DeMar being able to play the 3 as well when required. And yes, you can use FA to fill current roster holes, I know this - it still doesn't mean the Spurs should "lean wing" in both drafts, or close to it. I don't see your reasoning at all.

It'd be foolish to project ahead a year in terms of drafting for a certain position now because of what might happen then.

I agree to an extent. It doesn't change my point though, that there seems to be no star-struck wings or bigs at #11 in this draft (except maybe Poku, for those who believe in his hype), so the Spurs would be better served to try and get a big to develop and then go for a wing in next years' draft. Whether they suck next season or not, the overall level of the '21-22 draft is such that the Spurs *have* to take that into account. Each draft doesn't exist in a vacuum, and teams for sure plan long-term for these kinds of things.

Herro is a three level scorer and play maker. Smith isn't becoming that and he doesn't really have a true defensive position. As we've seen with Bertans, it's difficult for that type to be a starter.

Bertans is HARDLY comparable to Smith, dude. He was an absolute defensive liability, his only real skill was shooting - couldn't dribble, couldn't pass, couldn't post up, couldn't rebound. Yes, one-dimensional shooters who are sieves on D are hard to start on a team, that's not news. But that isn't Smith's archetype at all. Jalen could perfectly develop into a three-level scorer - he's already a threat from deep, and the post/rim area. With the midrange becoming increasingly depreciated, I'm not even sure I want him to become that, tbh... But he still absolutely has a place on the floor, and what's that about "doesn't really have a true defensive position"? What about his position isn't clear - have you watched a single game of his...? He's a PF first and foremost, and he's been matching up great with college PFs and even C's, like his game against Tillman. I could perfectly see him defending both PFs and Cs, unless the opposing C is an Embiid-Jokic type, in which case you trot out Smith at PF and call it a day.

The bigger question is, can he defend the big wing starting 4's.

Ok, now I'm really starting to doubt whether you've watched some tape on this guy.

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Why is passing a required skill from the 4 position all of a sudden? Is it because we're forecasting a bit much about the type of system this team needs to play, making it more static and not fluid? Guarding big wing 4's isn't a requirement either, the Spurs have had their liabilities in the past and it's something they game plan around-- not build their roster for it. Regardless, it's still early and not enough indication that Jalen would be unable to so, just like all believed that Keldon had not enough lateral speed to defend the likes of Red and Westbrook. And though you may not believe it yet, Jalen has more qualities going for him to make up for any deficiencies.

The truth is in one of your last sentences: "you don't see many starting 4's like him today". This should be seen in a positive light if he gets drafted, giving the Spurs an edge using a player other teams are not accustomed to playing against... And not the other way around. When you have a big who has potential to shoot lights out from anywhere AND be physical in the inside, that's a tough defensive assignment.

Because the game is more geared towards skill than ever and you can't play two sub par passing bigs (with a lack of shooting/play making) and expect to have a functional offense. The Lakers make it work for the first 6 minutes of each half, but that's with a top 2 player ever and arguably the top 2 current players.

It is a requirement because many 4's now are really just converted 3's. If he can't defend them on the perimeter, then what? Forget about Lyles or many things recently. They're stopgap measures from a desperate/stubborn organization that was trying to cling to a streak/reputation.

It can be a positive if it's a mismatch nightmare like Davis. Smith isn't going to bully or beat big wing 4's up in the post though.

Why is that though? Please explain. Is "leaning wing" for every single draft pick "more prudent"? What is "prudent" anyways? Sounds like a lot of buzzwords... I repeat - if faced with the option to have only one low-ceiling, and one high-ceiling prospect, the way the league is trending is such that you'd prefer "leaning wing" for the high-ceiling prospect and choose the big with the lower ceiling, since the modern game is fueled by big wings and modern big men are either disappearing, shrinking in average size, getting played off the floor, or can't even carry their team to the playoffs (like AD). Even star big men aren't as game-changing as they were. Why would you select 2 wings, in different drafts, given the Spurs' glaring hole at the 4 and 5?

Even if you think Luka is star-bound, which is far from a given, he's not ready yet, and the next body at PF is either the corpse of Rudy Gay, or bench-piece-made-starter Lyles. The C position is a similar problem for us, with Poeltl hardly being a serviceable starter and the next man up being third-stringer Eubanks (I'm assuming the Spurs will deal LMA in the off-season). There are simply no bigs in the pipeline at the moment. Meanwhile, it's looking like we've drafted our SF of the future already in Keldon, with both Lonnie and DeMar being able to play the 3 as well when required. And yes, you can use FA to fill current roster holes, I know this - it still doesn't mean the Spurs should "lean wing" in both drafts, or close to it. I don't see your reasoning at all.



I agree to an extent. It doesn't change my point though, that there seems to be no star-struck wings or bigs at #11 in this draft (except maybe Poku, for those who believe in his hype), so the Spurs would be better served to try and get a big to develop and then go for a wing in next years' draft. Whether they suck next season or not, the overall level of the '21-22 draft is such that the Spurs *have* to take that into account. Each draft doesn't exist in a vacuum, and teams for sure plan long-term for these kinds of things.



Bertans is HARDLY comparable to Smith, dude. He was an absolute defensive liability, his only real skill was shooting - couldn't dribble, couldn't pass, couldn't post up, couldn't rebound. Yes, one-dimensional shooters who are sieves on D are hard to start on a team, that's not news. But that isn't Smith's archetype at all. Jalen could perfectly develop into a three-level scorer - he's already a threat from deep, and the post/rim area. With the midrange becoming increasingly depreciated, I'm not even sure I want him to become that, tbh... But he still absolutely has a place on the floor, and what's that about "doesn't really have a true defensive position"? What about his position isn't clear - have you watched a single game of his...? He's a PF first and foremost, and he's been matching up great with college PFs and even C's, like his game against Tillman. I could perfectly see him defending both PFs and Cs, unless the opposing C is an Embiid-Jokic type, in which case you trot out Smith at PF and call it a day.



Ok, now I'm really starting to doubt whether you've watched some tape on this guy.

Because they generally occupy 3 of 5 positions in today's league and are more malleable. It's also easier to find credible center play for cheap. The biggest positional need is big wing, but the biggest need period is elite - high end talent.

I'm not saying don't select Smith at any cost, I'm saying all things being relatively equal, I'd have a tough time passing up a high floor wing. Drafting for position is never intelligent, less so projecting a year in advance. Always draft for value because that can be traded to plug other holes down the road.

Poor reading comprehension (and Bertans has better ball handling/passing skills than you give him credit for). It's not about a direct comparison, it's about the simple fact that neither has a defined defensive position and usually when that's the case players top out as sub starters because it's easier to dictate matchups off the bench.

[Dejounte]

Because the game is more geared towards skill than ever and you can't play two sub par passing bigs (with a lack of shooting/play making) and expect to have a functional offense. The Lakers make it work for the first 6 minutes of each half, but that's with a top 2 player ever and arguably the top 2 current players.

It is a requirement because many 4's now are really just converted 3's. If he can't defend them on the perimeter, then what? Forget about Lyles or many things recently. They're stopgap measures from a desperate/stubborn organization that was trying to cling to a streak/reputation.

It can be a positive if it's a mismatch nightmare like Davis. Smith isn't going to bully or beat big wing 4's up in the post though.




Because they generally occupy 3 of 5 positions in today's league and are more malleable. It's also easier to find credible center play for cheap. The biggest positional need is big wing, but the biggest need period is elite - high end talent.

I'm not saying don't select Smith at any cost, I'm saying all things being relatively equal, I'd have a tough time passing up a high floor wing. Drafting for position is never intelligent, less so projecting a year in advance. Always draft for value because that can be traded to plug other holes down the road.

Poor reading comprehension (and Bertans has better ball handling/passing skills than you give him credit for). It's not about a direct comparison, it's about the simple fact that neither has a defined defensive position and usually when that's the case players top out as sub starters because it's easier to dictate matchups off the bench.

When you say "many", it means majority.

“3 converted fours”:
Pascal Siakam
Danilo Gallinari
Carmelo Anthony
Giannis Antetokounmpo
Paul George
DeAndre Hunter or Cam Reddish? Not sure which one plays PF
Jayson Tatum

Regular big (or simply *not* 3’s) playing the four:
Joe Ingles
Juan Hernangómez
Domantas Sabonis
Lauri Markkanen
Blake Griffin
Kevin Love
Anthony Davis
Dario Saric
Nemanja Bjelica
Bam Adebayo
Aaron Gordon
P.J. Washington
Davis Bertans or Rui Hachimura
Kristap Porzingas
Jaren Jackson Jr
Trey Lyles
Zion Williamson
Al Horford
Julius Randle
Jerami Grant, Paul Millsap, or MPJ

These are all taken from basketballreference.com. I looked at minutes played, the depth chart, and which players had started.

It is a myth. This isn't "many". The number of "3 converted 4's" do not outnumber the standard 4's. It is a myth. And most of the players listed above have enough utility (just like Jalen will have) to keep starting and will not be going away anytime soon. Obviously the skill varies from big to big, but if we're strictly speaking how Jalen will do defensively - Again, I ask... how difficult is it to guard the bigs in the second group if we're talking about lateral quickness as a weakness for Jalen? As Sugus suggested, please take more time to watch more tape. And if you do not have time, then let's hold our breath and see what he does in the NBA, as all indications in college has shown he will do just fine since he has guarded similar caliber players (quickness-wise) from the second group.

[Dejounte]

How the game has changed is a two-sided coin.

On one side, you have small forwards who have converted to 4, which again is not the "majority".

On the other side, are players who many have chosen to ignore-- it is old school bigs transforming their game to stretch the floor. These are players like Al Horford, Blake Griffin, Aaron Gordon, Anthony Davis... and all the incoming bigs from college who are focusing on 3 point shooting to add to their repertoire.

These players will not be phased out.

[JuneJive]

Yeah, but the big question with him is if he'll be able to stay on the court as a "4" or be strictly limited to the "5" due to his problems defending in space.

Either way, I can see his bbiq help him with that.

[Dejounte]

Yeah, but the big question with him is if he'll be able to stay on the court as a "4" or be strictly limited to the "5" due to his problems defending in space.

Either way, I can see his bbiq help him with that.

Yes, the question is if Jalen will have problems chasing these guys:

Joe Ingles
Juan Hernangómez
Domantas Sabonis
Lauri Markkanen
Blake Griffin
Kevin Love
Anthony Davis
Dario Saric
Nemanja Bjelica
Bam Adebayo
Aaron Gordon
P.J. Washington
Davis Bertans or Rui Hachimura
Kristap Porzingas
Jaren Jackson Jr
Trey Lyles
Zion Williamson
Al Horford
Julius Randle
Jerami Grant, Paul Millsap, or MPJ

Bear in mind that these are all starters.

Do these players look ridiculously quick to anyone?

I, for one, do not think so based off the countless hours I've watched him play.

[BackHome]

He will have no problems at the 4 he might have some issues with big 5 but he will have no issue with anyone at the 4 and could probably hang with a few 3 pretty good also.

[XDT76]

Because the game is more geared towards skill than ever and you can't play two sub par passing bigs (with a lack of shooting/play making) and expect to have a functional offense. The Lakers make it work for the first 6 minutes of each half, but that's with a top 2 player ever and arguably the top 2 current players.

It is a requirement because many 4's now are really just converted 3's. If he can't defend them on the perimeter, then what? Forget about Lyles or many things recently. They're stopgap measures from a desperate/stubborn organization that was trying to cling to a streak/reputation.

It can be a positive if it's a mismatch nightmare like Davis. Smith isn't going to bully or beat big wing 4's up in the post though.




Because they generally occupy 3 of 5 positions in today's league and are more malleable. It's also easier to find credible center play for cheap. The biggest positional need is big wing, but the biggest need period is elite - high end talent.

I'm not saying don't select Smith at any cost, I'm saying all things being relatively equal, I'd have a tough time passing up a high floor wing. Drafting for position is never intelligent, less so projecting a year in advance. Always draft for value because that can be traded to plug other holes down the road.

Poor reading comprehension (and Bertans has better ball handling/passing skills than you give him credit for). It's not about a direct comparison, it's about the simple fact that neither has a defined defensive position and usually when that's the case players top out as sub starters because it's easier to dictate matchups off the bench.

The first thing I look for in this draft is also a big wing, however, I really did not see one that I like. Who do you recommend to draft as a big wing? Devin and Aaron definitely could not be define as big wing, we are then probably left with Saddiq and PatWil (which I am ok if we draft them) which one could not say are definitely are more talented than Jalen. However, the Spurs are in a bad shape in terms of big man and thus I see drafting Jalen as a better choice for this draft, as we can see how a big with 3 points can open up the spacing for offense. For the SF position, we still have Keldon and Lonnie.