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    maga trash dude didn't deserve to die but he sure as asked for it...by the looks of it maga trash dude was the aggressor (walking towards shooter and slapping him) and proceeds to attempt to mace the guy...maga trash taking a few steps back so as to not get maced himself...he asked to be shot as soon as he pulled the mace on the guy... shoot first and ask questions later...the guy that empties their clip first wins ....anyway one less trump vote
    Huh? The thug shot first before the security guard dropped him.

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    Omitting that Trump thug shot the mace first. Pretty much gives credence to the idea he was only backing up so he wouldn't spray himself, not backing up to de-escalate.
    Mace was deployed in response to gun being drawn first. After he backed up the only escalation was by the shooter.


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    Mace was deployed in response to gun being drawn first. After he backed up the only escalation was by the shooter.

    Right, shooting bear spray wasn't escalation.

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    Huh? The thug shot first before the security guard dropped him.
    ya man I agree...maga trash got what he asked for...you don't bring a squirt gun to a guy fight..the vids show he walked towards the security guard and initiated the aggression...the security guard just responded out of self defense...the security has a right to protect/defend himself if he feels a threat...CASE DISMISSED

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    Right, shooting bear spray wasn't escalation.
    what part of the gun being drawn first are you having trouble comprehending?

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    Mace was deployed in response to gun being drawn first. After he backed up the only escalation was by the shooter.



    someone pulls a gun on you do you pull out your mace or turn and run?


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    what part of the gun being drawn first are you having trouble comprehending?
    What part of bear spraying a guy are you having trouble understanding? Can I come bearspray you and your wife while you sit there and do nothing?

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    What part of bear spraying a guy are you having trouble understanding? Can I come bearspray you and your wife while you sit there and do nothing?
    I can't pull a gun on you and then shoot you after you bear spray me and think I'm not getting charged with murder.

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    ya man I agree...maga trash got what he asked for...you don't bring a squirt gun to a guy fight..the vids show he walked towards the security guard and initiated the aggression...the security guard just responded out of self defense...the security has a right to protect/defend himself if he feels a threat...CASE DISMISSED
    The actor has reasonable ground to believe, and does believe, that he or another person is in imminent danger of being killed or of receiving great bodily injury
    Seems like he had "reasonable ground to believe".

    Doesn't matter of the gun was drawn first or not.

    All he has to do is testify in court, "I thought he was going to mace me, then badly beat me up". MAGA dip was plenty angry and agressive.

    Put it in front of a jury. Let the law work it out, but it seems "beyond reasonable doubt" is going to be a high bar here.

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    someone pulls a gun on you do you pull out your mace or turn and run?

    Once lethal force is displayed.. hands up and back off. Gun out is a sure sign someone is freaking out and either scared or angry. Seems pretty clear cut.

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    I can't pull a gun on you and then shoot you after you bear spray me and think I'm not getting charged with murder.
    But I wouldn't be escalating this argument by coming over and slapping you around and then bear spraying you, correct?

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    Seems like he had "reasonable ground to believe".

    Doesn't matter of the gun was drawn first or not.

    All he has to do is testify in court, "I thought he was going to mace me, then badly beat me up". MAGA dip was plenty angry and agressive.

    Put it in front of a jury. Let the law work it out, but it seems "beyond reasonable doubt" is going to be a high bar here.
    Thought the thug was going to mace him? The thug did bear spray him.

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    I can't pull a gun on you and then shoot you after you bear spray me and think I'm not getting charged with murder.
    What if he had already slapped your wife?

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    Seems like he had "reasonable ground to believe".

    Doesn't matter of the gun was drawn first or not.

    All he has to do is testify in court, "I thought he was going to mace me, then badly beat me up". MAGA dip was plenty angry and agressive.

    Put it in front of a jury. Let the law work it out, but it seems "beyond reasonable doubt" is going to be a high bar here.
    Shooter could have backed away when the other guy backed away. Instead he decided to pull his weapon on someone backing away. He's ed. If he didn't pull his weapon I doubt the other guy deploys mace and both dip s would be alive but now one is dead and the other is going down for murder one. When idiots collide.

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    Hiring a person inclined to escalate matters rather than deescalate matters is not fulfilling duty of care. Nor would it be if he has an egregious criminal record (I saw something on that but didn't click).
    There is no "duty of care" here man. The primary requirement of that is some sort of obligation from one party to another. You are absolutely misusing this here.

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    (omitting that the mace wasn't deployed until after the gun was drawn)
    Didn't omit anything. Bringing Mace to a gunfight.

    Shoulda put his hands up instead of trying to stop a bullet with his face, tbh

    (c) The other person is committing or reasonably appears about to commit kidnapping as defined in section 18-3-301 or 18-3-302 , robbery as defined in section 18-4-301 or 18-4-302 , sexual assault as set forth in section 18-3-402 , or in section 18-3-403 as it existed prior to July 1, 2000, or assault as defined in sections 18-3-202 and 18-3-203.
    Why didn't you bold that, counselor?

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    Thought the thug was going to mace him? The thug did bear spray him.
    Why did he mace him?

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    Mace was deployed in response to gun being drawn first. After he backed up the only escalation was by the shooter.

    drawing a gun is not the same as shooting the gun.

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    Shooter could have backed away when the other guy backed away. Instead he decided to pull his weapon on someone backing away. He's ed. If he didn't pull his weapon I doubt the other guy deploys mace and both dip s would be alive but now one is dead and the other is going down for murder one. When idiots collide.
    Welcome to your opinion. (shrugs) I am somewhat more dubious. These things never play out "cut and dried" in a court.

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    Why did he mace him?
    Because chubby is a ing idiot. That's why I said his family's best case is to claim he had the mental age of a 8 years old.

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    Why did he mace him?
    Because he's a thug piece of .

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    Didn't omit anything. Bringing Mace to a gunfight.

    Shoulda put his hands up instead of trying to stop a bullet with his face, tbh



    Why didn't you bold that, counselor?
    He wasn't assaulting him and was instead backing away.

    I'd offer up an ELE bet to anyone who thinks he's getting off on self defense but after I won there would only be like 3 posters left here to converse with

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    Shooter could have backed away when the other guy backed away. Instead he decided to pull his weapon on someone backing away. He's ed. If he didn't pull his weapon I doubt the other guy deploys mace and both dip s would be alive but now one is dead and the other is going down for murder one. When idiots collide.
    Why is it doubtful? Trump thug already assaulted the security guard once.

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    Because he pulled a gun
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