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    I am not taking a legal side here, you guys are much more knowledgeable in that realm.

    I am just merely pointing out that if the gun was not present, you dont have a dead fat guy.
    IMO because a gun was present, the outcome had a greater chance of becoming deadly.
    People value their pride more than a life.

    This self protection stuff by deadly weapon is just ... deadly.
    Does anyone run anymore? Just get the out and find out whats up later. There are witnesses.
    Personally I think (know) I could beat the fck out of fat man, but I would not, I would get out first.
    We have seen too many of these incidents with people carrying guns TALKING and then someone dies.
    Or incidents escalate because someone has a piece. The Captain America comes out in them.

    We need to just go back to a crowd a fisticuffs. A face can get fixed.
    Its sickening. People need to see "understand" the damage metal at high speeds does to a body, they just dont get it.

    Rant over.
    unnecessary deaths due to firearms are unfortunately part and parcel of living in a country with 2A

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    What?

    wtf are you saying...
    That gun was there at the behest of the media. They hired the man with the gun.

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    That gun was there at the behest of the media. They hired the man with the gun.
    oh yes, this is such a common occurrence in the US; the media hire hit men to act innocent (or look like antifa? does this help?) so they can get maced and then get to kill a fat trump .
    Its breaking out all over the country.

    gtfoh you dumb fck.

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    unnecessary deaths due to firearms are unfortunately part and parcel of living in a country with 2A
    I wonder how many people on this thread would have shot fat guy.
    Im out of that .

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    oh yes, this is such a common occurrence in the US; the media hire hit men to act innocent (or look like antifa? does this help?) so they can get maced and then get to kill a fat trump .
    Its breaking out all over the country.

    gtfoh you dumb fck.
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    Dude, the gun wouldn't have been there without the media paying for it. You just went into full retreat cos you don't have an answer for that.

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    NPC Cuck Garden: How dare you!



    Dude, the gun wouldn't have been there without the media paying for it. You just went into full retreat cos you don't have an answer for that.
    Oh my God!

    The Media's security is out of control, run for your lives.

    Your are the largest idiot on this board.

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    derp thinks it was a planned assassination to silence rube hatmakers everywhere.

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    Oh my God!

    The Media's security is out of control, run for your lives.

    Your are the largest idiot on this board.
    Nervous breakdown.

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    No nervous system to break... derptoidal anatomy.
    (Next up, lessons in sarcasm taught to an inanimate object)

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    No nervous system to break...
    If that's your way of saying no inner monologue, I concur.

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    I’m not confused at all. I already said there was no crime committed when he pulled his gun after being assaulted. The escalation wasn’t the crime. I clearly said using lethal force against non-lethal was the crime.
    Yeah, you are. You keep saying the guard 'escalated' by pulling his gun. He didn't. He wasn't going to continue to get assaulted having a weapon on him. There's absolutely nothing to the fact that he pulled the gun on this guy that just assaulted him. Completely normal, self-defense action.

    You also keep forgetting this guys was a guard working on protecting other people. If he's disabled, he can't do his job, and that puts the people he's protecting in danger.

    I point it out, because that's the kind of stuff that will come up at trial when discussing cir stances.

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    If that's your way of saying no inner monologue, I concur.
    Tell that to yourself.
    You wont, and you cant.

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    Tell that to yourself.
    You wont, and you cant.
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    Where narratives go to die....


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    Yeah, you are. You keep saying the guard 'escalated' by pulling his gun. He didn't. He wasn't going to continue to get assaulted having a weapon on him. There's absolutely nothing to the fact that he pulled the gun on this guy that just assaulted him. Completely normal, self-defense action.

    You also keep forgetting this guys was a guard working on protecting other people. If he's disabled, he can't do his job, and that puts the people he's protecting in danger.

    I point it out, because that's the kind of stuff that will come up at trial when discussing cir stances.
    The guy didn’t continue to assault him and backed away after he slapped him. You also keep forgetting this guy was an unlicensed guard working illegally in Denver.

    I point it out, because that's the kind of stuff that will come up at trial when discussing cir stances.

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    It never ends well for wannabe tough guys picking fights and spraying mace.

    Hate to see it.

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    The guy didn’t continue to assault him and backed away after he slapped him. You also keep forgetting this guy was an unlicensed guard working illegally in Denver.

    I point it out, because that's the kind of stuff that will come up at trial when discussing cir stances.
    thats not particularly relevant to claims of self defense... same reason all the people talking about rittenhouse crossing state lines with a gun or w/e are making irrelevant arguments

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    TSA trying to tell lawyers what will be discussed at trial.

    never learns.

    Meanwhile, another narrative dies at 0:25



    Chud clearly threatening the newsman. Guard was intervening.

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    thats not particularly relevant to claims of self defense... same reason all the people talking about rittenhouse crossing state lines with a gun or w/e are making irrelevant arguments
    Will it be brought up at trial? Yes or no.

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    TSA

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    You guys should have just continued cheering on the dead Trump supporter instead of trying to make this some sort of righteous self defense shoot. Made a lot of previously thought of smart people look re ed.

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    The guy didn’t continue to assault him and backed away after he slapped him. You also keep forgetting this guy was an unlicensed guard working illegally in Denver.

    I point it out, because that's the kind of stuff that will come up at trial when discussing cir stances.
    Of course he did, he backed up and starting spraying bear mace at him, even when he had a gun pointing to him

    Him being licensed in the city of Denver is immaterial to what actually transpired here, he clearly is a security guard, according to the Denver police.

    But if you want to put all your chips on him not having a license for the city, I won't stop you.

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    TSA declares victory after presenting his AR15.com argument.

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    Will it be brought up at trial? Yes or no.
    prosecutors would try. i'm sure it would be objected to, and likely sustained

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    Of course he did, he backed up and starting spraying bear mace at him, even when he had a gun pointing to him

    Him being licensed in the city of Denver is immaterial to what actually transpired here, he clearly is a security guard, according to the Denver police.

    But if you want to put all your chips on him not having a license for the city, I won't stop you.
    I already told you where I put all my chips. He shot and killed a guy who was retreating with a non-lethal weapon who posed no threat to his life.

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