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    Now it just makes all the sense in the world as to why Trump was openly criticizing mail in ballots. It almost seems like he knew this was going to happen already lol
    Trump MUST concede if Biden wins all 3 of NV, MI and WI today... 270 without Pennsylvania and PA governor Wolf will call Trump and offer to concede PA in exchange for Trump conceding the general.

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    Trump MUST concede if Biden wins all 3 of NV, MI and WI today... 270 without Pennsylvania and PA governor Wolf will call Trump and offer to concede PA in exchange for Trump conceding the general.
    Nevada not updating until Noon tomorrow PT.

    Trump can still win with NC, GA, PA & NV.

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    God if there was anything I was not expecting tonight, it was Susan Collins keeping her ing seat. I figured Gideon had that wrapped up even if Trump won the presidency.
    Man, that means the Senate is going to be pretty much a tie.

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    Trump's best chance to have a PA hanging-chad style thingy, is the NV vote dump (which decision desk said had a lot of rural and outer votes outstanding) coming in a couple hours puts Trump in the lead.

    Biden is squeaking out a narrow ~1.0 victory in MI and WI.

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    Man, that means the Senate is going to be pretty much a tie.
    not at all... 52-48 GOP. Dems with only a +1 pickup as Tillis is actually outpacing Trump in NC and almost certainly to win.

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    yeah, Trump will still have enough juice to run in 2024 Grover Cleveland style, and this time he'll have learned a lesson to be more presidential and less impulsive.... sort of like the 2013 Spurs ending vs. the 2014 one.
    Yeah, the great pivot toward Trump being presidential. that will happen any minute now.

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    Trump MUST concede if Biden wins all 3 of NV, MI and WI today... 270 without Pennsylvania and PA governor Wolf will call Trump and offer to concede PA in exchange for Trump conceding the general.
    I don't think Governors can auction off states like that. Besides, no way Trump takes that deal.

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    I don't think Governors can auction off states like that. Besides, no way Trump takes that deal.
    What choice would he have? 270 WITHOUT Pennsylvania would make it impossible for Trump. He's not taking back votes in AZ, MI, WI.

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    Looks like Arizona should be called by everyone soon. >98% reporting and Biden up 3.4 points.

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    I think the polling industry is going to take an out of business hit this time.

    No one is going to trust them now. I won’t. Ever.

    I think this is more about the cult of personality than methodology. There are too many ty people that love trump, and what he stands for, but hold back from getting in their trucks and trying to run a bus off the road because they’re not far gone, yet.

    The cork will never be put back in the bottle. The division will always be there, as long as millions of people still get all of their opinions from sources that disregard the truth. How many of your dumbass friends start all their political opines with, “you know I don’t like trump, but,”. Those are the folks that drove much of this result.

    i understood what Biden was trying to do. Appeal to sanity, and try to bring the country back together. That strategy is now no longer a viable reality.

    People like spurt and Chris and the like are never going to be reached. Now you have to defeat them with numbers.

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    Biden -475 on bovada.

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    Republicans playing defense in midterms in 2022, but a Biden win would almost assure they keep the Senate in 2022 and possibly pick up a couple more seats.

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    Looks like Arizona should be called by everyone soon. >98% reporting and Biden up 3.4 points.
    ducks

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    Looks like Arizona should be called by everyone soon. >98% reporting and Biden up 3.4 points.
    Huh? I was watching last night and AZ got called about 8:45 PM Central time

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    Huh? I was watching last night and AZ got called about 8:45 PM Central time
    fox was the only network that called it, and they ended up taking it back

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    Man, that means the Senate is going to be pretty much a tie.
    Nope, it's looking 48-50 if the Michigan mail-in votes don't split against Peters. NC is virtually unwinnable with Cunningham trailing Biden by almost 2 points in a state Biden's chance to win is only around 15%. Then you're going to need to have both senate runoffs in George go blue to get to 50/50 if Collins wins, and Warnock performed horribly. The senate is lost.

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    I keep waiting for someone to do an Avengers Endgame Assemble meme on the mailin ballots rushing in to beat thanos trump lmfao

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    fox was the only network that called it, and they ended up taking it back
    no they didn't... their decision desk which is VERY fair (almost left of neutral, but neutral in any case) and they stood behind it 3 times with 3 different analysts.

    say what you want about Fox News 97% of the time, but they are very fair and balanced during the elections, and have the best overall election presentation with both conservative and liberal analysts along with dead center guys like Wallace and Brit Hume (yeah he's a republican but a realist).

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    I keep waiting for someone to do an Avengers Endgame Assemble meme on the mailin ballots rushing in to beat thanos trump lmfao
    those "avengers theme goes with everything" vids are pretty funny

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    As a Rep, I definitely dont feel as good as last night, but PA & Nevada are realistic. Have to hope the turnout in Philly isnt super high

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    What choice would he have? 270 WITHOUT Pennsylvania would make it impossible for Trump. He's not taking back votes in AZ, MI, WI.
    Not take the governor’s call and pout in the corner.

    His response to that offer would be just to become more incensed and burn the White House down out of spite.

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    If I was a Trump I'd be extremely happy. I'd have the courts stacked heavily in my favor and Biden would be a lame ducks setting my party up for a wave election in 2024. I'd be thrilled that the electoral college is an intractable problem for the Democrats just like the senate.

    That’s not how they think. The average mongoloid trumper does not give one about legislation. If they did, they’d never vote r to begin with, since they are voting to intentionally damage themselves.

    this is, by and large, a group that has associated with this movement based on the feeling of belonging to a winning team. It doesn’t matter Trump thinks they’re , and wouldn’t piss on them if they were on fire. It’s about associating him with the idea of beating people they resent and envy.

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    Republicans playing defense in midterms in 2022, but a Biden win would almost assure they keep the Senate in 2022 and possibly pick up a couple more seats.
    It will be a red wave in 2022 in the House. Midterms are almost always bad for the in bent's party.

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    Nope, it's looking 48-50 if the Michigan mail-in votes don't split against Peters. NC is virtually unwinnable with Cunningham trailing Biden by almost 2 points in a state Biden's chance to win is only around 15%. Then you're going to need to have both senate runoffs in George go blue to get to 50/50 if Collins wins, and Warnock performed horribly. The senate is lost.
    The first Georgia race (Perdue) won't be a run off. The female GOP in bent will likely win in January. 52-48, barring a Peters loss to James.

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