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    A precursor of things to come?

    Sounds more like he's hyping himself up than anything imho

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    The longer it goes, the more I’m believing that it’s either all just smoke and mirrors, or that that team is legitimately trying to get #2 but won’t actually happen.

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    The longer it goes, the more I’m believing that it’s either all just smoke and mirrors, or that that team is legitimately trying to get #2 but won’t actually happen.
    This is the kind of deal that can only happen on draft night unless Minnesota gets involved.

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    I don’t know if it’s been speculated on but I could see the warriors only doing this trade if Wiseman is taken #1, I think wiseman is the GSWs guy but if he’s gone they’d settle with getting Aldridge + 11 or something

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    This is the kind of deal that can only happen on draft night unless Minnesota gets involved.
    That makes sense for lower picks. With #2 you know all but one player will be available. I would do the deal ASAP so another team doesn’t swoop in with a better offer. I still think the pick swap with Atlanta or Detroit are more possible.
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    Imho, the only reason this seems plausible is you trade away Wiggins (lengthy and pricey) contract for 1 year of LMA, then the dubs use that cap space next summer to go after Giannis. I think that’s the warriors play.

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    Imho, the only reason this seems plausible is you trade away Wiggins (lengthy and pricey) contract for 1 year of LMA, then the dubs use that cap space next summer to go after Giannis. I think that’s the warriors play.
    GS won't have cap space until 2023.

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    That makes sense for lower picks. With #2 you know all but one player will be available. I would do the deal ASAP so another team doesn’t swoop in with a better offer. I still think the pick swap with Atlanta or Detroit are more possible.
    Still not a given because every team is trying to leverage what they have even to the point of some teams taking players they never worked out or talked only because they have insider knowledge that the team behind them wants them. Minnesota holds a lot of cards here especially because they now here Charlotte and Spurs are very high on a guy like Wiseman. Say Spurs make this trade but Hornets get scared and make a trade with Timberwolves for an asset + their 3rd while Timberwolves still might get the guy they always wanted at #3 anyway (i.e. either Edwards or LaMelo Ball). Even then many teams are eyeing those two guards so they could theoretically get even more after that by trading that pick to NY or Detroit who seem to be high on both of those guys as well.

    Point is, Teams talk and prepare for dozens of scenarios that could happen until the actual draft and even then curveballs are thrown around everywhere.

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    Do the warriors use trade exemption on Rudy gay

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    I don't know if this has been posted already but earlier this year, Wiseman said he modeled his game after DA ADMIRAL. https://news4sanantonio.com/sports/s...a-spurs-legend

    "So I am more like a back-in-the-day guy. So I'll say David Robinson for sure."

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    I don't know if this has been posted already but earlier this year, Wiseman said he modeled his game after DA ADMIRAL. https://news4sanantonio.com/sports/s...a-spurs-legend

    "So I am more like a back-in-the-day guy. So I'll say David Robinson for sure."
    Another reason why the Spurs would be the ideal fit for him. He could learn from The Admiral himself.

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    This is the kind of deal that can only happen on draft night unless Minnesota gets involved.
    You always want to trade draft rights to the player selected in the first round on draft night. If you trade the pick, you are precluded from trading your next first rounder, should something come up at the deadline. That’s any team.

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    GS won't have cap space until 2023.
    And that is only if they renounce Klay and Steph. Raymond has a player option for 2023-2024. It’s $27M, and he’ll be 34.

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    Irony: LMA was drafted #2 overall, and traded on draft night to Portland. NBA Looper.

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    Irony: LMA was drafted #2 overall, and traded on draft night to Portland. NBA Looper.
    Ahhh that's right Chicago drafted him I believe...

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    Ahhh that's right Chicago drafted him I believe...
    Yup. Da Bulls!

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    You always want to trade draft rights to the player selected in the first round on draft night. If you trade the pick, you are precluded from trading your next first rounder, should something come up at the deadline. That’s any team.
    If you get a 1st rounder in return it negates that rule. Plus isn’t it ok to trade all your future first rounders in separately?

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    If you get a 1st rounder in return it negates that rule. Plus isn’t it ok to trade all your future first rounders in separately?
    No. You must make a pick every other year, even if you the trade the rights to the player. That’s the Stepien rule.

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    No, they’re not the Spurs. They are in tax , and the Spurs aren’t. GS also won’t be able to monetize that new arena like they thought they would, at least not this season. They could pay $31M in tax JUST on pick #2 next season. Imagine that other 30ish million that they’ll have to pay 3.5-1 tax on.
    You were saying . . .

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    Biden president not Trump

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    No. You must make a pick every other year, even if you the trade the rights to the player. That’s the Stepien rule.
    “Of course, in spite of the Stepien rule, a team could still end up without a first-round pick on an annual basis, since the rule only applies to futurefirst-rounders. So a team like Toronto, which traded away its 2013 first-round pick, is now free to move its 2014 first-rounder, if it so chooses. In other words, a team can give up back-to-back first-round picks if the first of those two drafts has already passed.”
    https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2013/12/...ure-draft.html

    lots of ways to cir vent this.

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    If the Spurs don't have to trade #11 I'd take on Wiggins. Either trade #11 or take on Wiggins, not both.
    I tend to agree in principle, but in another lost COVID year for the NBA who cares? It’s just paper swapping hands next year, and one more year of Wiggins beyond that. Get your kid at #2, and perhaps make GSW cough up a second. You picked two rooks last year anyway.

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    Another reason why the Spurs would be the ideal fit for him. He could learn from The Admiral himself.
    This is the guy for us. Just makes so much sense. Hopefully, PATFO can pull off a deal, even if it means getting Wiggins in return, IMO. We'll see.

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    disagree. Aldridge plus 11 should be plenty. No home run hitters in this years draft. 11 will still get them a pretty comparable pick. Aldridge still has 3 years at around this production IMO. He can protect the paint and stretch the floor plus be a great post up option and solid pnr player. His game is aging well. May need to get a 3rd team involved for the salary filler since Wiggins might be a deal breaker for either GS or SA depending on how the market fairs.
    Aldridge and 11 for Wiggins and #2 probably isn't enough for Golden State. They'd need another asset for them to even consider it, otherwise another team could put together a better package. Also, adding a third team means that they'd need to get an asset to take on 3 years of Wiggins. Spurs can and should take on Wiggins deal to get the number 2 pick, but its doubtful if their package would be enough as is.

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    I tend to agree in principle, but in another lost COVID year for the NBA who cares? It’s just paper swapping hands next year, and one more year of Wiggins beyond that. Get your kid at #2, and perhaps make GSW cough up a second. You picked two rooks last year anyway.
    If the Spurs trade for Wiggins they prolly lose Poeltl this year and one of White/Walker the following year.

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