The Count of Corona...

[tholdren]

Elwrongwrong so scared of covid he doesn't understand facts
Lolololooooopl

Ellowlow

Got him as hooked as ChumpDumper 7 threads deep you hate to see it. I'm in Brazil today. No mask

[ElNono]

Update (8 November 2020):::


Trump's Corona Plague dead: 243,768+
Trump's Corona Plague dead (in units of 9/11s): 81.24+
Trump's Corona Plague dead on 11/8: 512 (162 Benghazis & 2 Obamabola outbreak)
Trump's Corona Plague dead per million U.S. rank: 10th highest death rate in the world
U.S. Presidents infected by Trump's Corona Plague: 1 (Trump himself)
U.S. First Ladies infected by Trump's Corona Plague: 1 (Trump's 3rd wife)
U.S. Senators infected by Trump's Corona Plague: 4 (4 Republicans, 0 Democrats)*
White House Staffers infected by Trump's Corona Plague: 100+ (conservative estimate)
Capitol Hill Staffers infected by Trump's Corona Plague: 100+ (conservative estimate)
White House Officials Gravely Ill: 1
Bexar County Dead: 1,427
South Korea dead: 480
Foldren folds: 4.5+k
Regular Flu dead: 23+k
Spanish Flu dead: 275k
Obama's H1N1 Flu dead: 12.5k

Let us proceed...

topsy

[Kurgan]

Pfizer vaccine having 90% efficacy is a good sign. April is the earliest when it can be distributed but even that is wishful thinking I think. Winter months are going to be brutal with the flu+covid running rampant.

[clambake]

& if so:::

I'll stand the gaffe.

I never hide my .

It's my religion.

Lol

[baseline bum]

Update (10 November 2020):::


Trump's Corona Plague dead: 245,799+
Trump's Corona Plague dead (in units of 9/11s): 82.57+
Bexar County Dead: 1,285
South Korea dead: 485
Regular Flu dead: 23+k
Spanish Flu dead: 275k
Obama's H1N1 Flu dead: 12.5k

Let us proceed...

[spurraider21]

over 1300 reported deaths today. most in a single day since August 18. over 135k new cases, most in a single day ever

only going to get uglier going into the winter

[Ghazi]

Coronavirus is a hoax

[spurraider21]

Coronavirus is a hoax

your religion is a hoax

[tholdren]

over 1300 reported deaths today. most in a single day since August 18. over 135k new cases, most in a single day ever

only going to get uglier going into the winter

Why does the usa run pcr tests at between 40 and 45 CT when it is not best practice?

[ElNono]

Update (10 November 2020):::


Trump's Corona Plague dead: 245,799+
Trump's Corona Plague dead (in units of 9/11s): 82.57+
Bexar County Dead: 1,285
South Korea dead: 485
Regular Flu dead: 23+k
Spanish Flu dead: 275k
Obama's H1N1 Flu dead: 12.5k

Let us proceed...

topsy

[TimDunkem]

Update (10 November 2020):::


Trump's Corona Plague dead: 245,799+
Trump's Corona Plague dead (in units of 9/11s): 82.57+
Bexar County Dead: 1,285
South Korea dead: 485
Regular Flu dead: 23+k
Spanish Flu dead: 275k
Obama's H1N1 Flu dead: 12.5k

Let us proceed...

turvy

[tholdren]

Why does the usa run pcr tests at between 40 and 45 CT when it is not best practice?

Why are the Chumpettes afraid of the actual science and math?

[Ghazi]

Coronavirus is a hoax

We're all still here aren't we?

Free your mind

We are all made of s ust, none of us are dead yet

[pgardn]

Why does the usa run pcr tests at between 40 and 45 CT when it is not best practice?

Tell us why.

[spurraider21]

Coronavirus is a hoax

We're all still here aren't we?

Free your mind

We are all made of s ust, none of us are dead yet

whats the sample size of the spurstalk political forum? 25 people?

[tholdren]

Tell us why.

Pgardn fold

[tholdren]

whats the sample size of the spurstalk political forum? 25 people?

Cdc already released their ifr with inflated numbers. Its less than flu for almost all age groups.

[spurraider21]

Cdc already released their ifr with inflated numbers. Its less than flu for almost all age groups.

250k dead

[pgardn]

Why does the usa run pcr tests at between 40 and 45 CT when it is not best practice?

Tell us why.

Pgardn fold

You have no idea what you even posted.
Go read and come back and explain it to the board.
then you get a quiz.
You wont.

[tholdren]

You have no idea what you even posted.
Go read and come back and explain it to the board.
then you get a quiz.
You wont.

I already have. For months. Usa runs tests at such a high sensitivity, 40-45, as opposed to relevant test cycles in mid 20s

My question is why, when its not best practice and other countries do not do this

[tholdren]

You have no idea what you even posted.
Go read and come back and explain it to the board.
then you get a quiz.
You wont.

The PCR test does not detect a live virus. For a virus to infect an individual or be transmitted to another person, it must be capable of replication. The PCR does not measure the ability of the material detected to make additional copies of itself. It is appropriate to use the word material because the PCR test looks for pieces of the virus’s RNA. It does not require a complete RNA strand to return a positive result

[TimDunkem]

Update (10 November 2020):::


Trump's Corona Plague dead: 245,799+
Trump's Corona Plague dead (in units of 9/11s): 82.57+
Bexar County Dead: 1,285
South Korea dead: 485
Regular Flu dead: 23+k
Spanish Flu dead: 275k
Obama's H1N1 Flu dead: 12.5k

Let us proceed...

Topsy

[tholdren]

You have no idea what you even posted.
Go read and come back and explain it to the board.
then you get a quiz.
You wont.

COLUMNS

About All Those Positive COVID 'Cases' Fauci Keeps Freaking Out Over...

BY STACEY LENNOX OCT 05, 2020 2:25 PM ET

Share

Tweet

AP Photo/Manuel Balce Ceneta

Dr. Anthony Fauci was on CNN Monday morning, lamenting the number of daily positive tests for COVID-19. Of course, these are always called “cases,” which makes people with a medical background want to tear their hair out for several reasons. However, it is crucial to the preferred narrative that you think there are 40,000 new sick people every day. People who could need the type of sophisticated care being given to President Trump at Walter Reed Medical Center.

This idea is ridiculous, misleading, and alarmist for many reasons. First, citing “cases” of illness suggests individuals have symptoms of it. In a significant number of people who are testing positive for COVID-19, this is simply not the case. People who are not and won’t get ill receive a positive test result because of the way the most common type of test used to detect the virus works.

The PCR test does not detect a live virus. For a virus to infect an individual or be transmitted to another person, it must be capable of replication. The PCR does not measure the ability of the material detected to make additional copies of itself. It is appropriate to use the word material because the PCR test looks for pieces of the virus’s RNA. It does not require a complete RNA strand to return a positive result.

6 Questions an Honest, Intelligent Reporter Would Ask Dr. Fauci About COVID-19

The CDC knows this, and so does the FDA. This knowledge is why the CDC no longer suggests retesting recovered patients. The agency acknowledges that a patient will shed virus particles incapable of being transmitted and causing infection for up to 90 days. When you add the research about T-cell immunity to this mix, it is possible to understand why there are so many asymptomatic “cases.”

T cells are immune cells that hang out in the lymph system, and some have a form of “memory.” They recognize parts of viral and bacterial invaders and are activated to eliminate them from the body by a complex immune response. Research demonstrates enough similarity between COVID-19 and other coronaviruses to suggest this reaction takes place in somewhere between 40% and 60% of the population.

As Dr. Beda M. Stadler, a Swiss biologist, emeritus professor, and former director of the Ins ute of Immunology at the University of Bern, noted that the same virus particles found in a recovered patient will be found in someone with an effective immune response to COVID-19 (emphasis mine):

So if we do a PCR corona test on an immune person, it is not a virus that is detected, but a small shattered part of the viral genome. The test comes back positive for as long as there are tiny shattered parts of the virus left. Correct: Even if the infectious viruses are long dead, a corona test can come back positive, because the PCR method multiplies even a tiny fraction of the viral genetic material enough [to be detected].

Reporting at The New York Times echoed this observation. According to a study done on positive samples in New York, Massachusetts, and Nevada, 90% of tests had very little viral debris in the sample, indicating that infection and transmission are unlikely:

In three sets of testing data that include cycle thresholds, compiled by officials in Massachusetts, New York and Nevada, up to 90 percent of people testing positive carried barely any virus, a review by The Times found.

On Thursday, the United States recorded 45,604 new coronavirus cases, according to a database maintained by The Times. If the rates of contagiousness in Massachusetts and New York were to apply nationwide, then perhaps only 4,500 of those people may actually need to isolate and submit to contact tracing.

In the article, Dr. Michael Mina, an epidemiologist at the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health, explained the problem:

“We’ve been using one type of data for everything, and that is just plus or minus — that’s all,” Dr. Mina said. “We’re using that for clinical diagnostics, for public health, for policy decision-making.”

The New York Times Does Accidental Journalism on COVID-19 Testing

The PCR test looks for the virus by amplifying the RNA it detects. Every amplification is called a cycle. The more cycles the test uses, the higher likelihood of finding pieces of the virus’s RNA. In the United States, most labs go through 40 cycles, according to the Times. Experts interviewed said this number of cycles is unnecessarily high:

Tests with thresholds so high may detect not just live virus but also genetic fragments, leftovers from infection that pose no particular risk — akin to finding a hair in a room long after a person has left, Dr. Mina said.

Any test with a cycle threshold above 35 is too sensitive, agreed Juliet Morrison, a virologist at the University of California, Riverside. “I’m shocked that people would think that 40 could represent a positive,” she said.

A more reasonable cutoff would be 30 to 35, she added. Dr. Mina said he would set the figure at 30, or even less. Those changes would mean the amount of genetic material in a patient’s sample would have to be 100-fold to 1,000-fold that of the current standard for the test to return a positive result — at least, one worth acting on

[TimDunkem]

Update (10 November 2020):::


Trump's Corona Plague dead: 245,799+
Trump's Corona Plague dead (in units of 9/11s): 82.57+
Bexar County Dead: 1,285
South Korea dead: 485
Regular Flu dead: 23+k
Spanish Flu dead: 275k
Obama's H1N1 Flu dead: 12.5k

Let us proceed...

Turvey

[tholdren]

Why are the Chumpettes afraid of the actual science and math?

TimDunkem low iq