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    I dont know if I like the trade. This Richardson is the better player and younger but Mills does bring the team together. If this was last year I might be more for this but it will be nice to get rid of his salary and I dont want forbes resigned. We also have enough guards and while Richardson is not old (27) he would be on the leading edge of this team. If we get some decent picks back for it then I would be more willing. Also would probably want to keep Rudy if Mills is traded.

    Philly is after him because they need shooters and he also plays a position they need.

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    Yup. Having Forbes on the roster for cheap doesn't sink the team. Starting him does. imo he's okay for 10-12 minutes as the 10th man.
    For $4-$5 million/ year for 2 years. Maybe a team option on year 2.

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    Forbes on a Pop coached is absolutely a problem. I don't care if he was giving the Spurs 10mil a year to play, I still wouldn't want him anywhere near the franchise.

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    Spurs could bring Gary Neal to suck at defense and spit out bricks for less money. Although I think Forbes has better stats guarding shoeless players.

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    GS is looking to match up with the Lakers bigs. When you're in championship contention you're thinking about who you have to beat to win the le and what pieces you need to add to get there. LMA would be a decent counter to AD. Not sure the Warriors could do better. And even if they give up a couple of draft picks including #2 to get the deal done, with the rest of their lineup they'd probably be too much for LA. I'd pencil the Warriors in as the clear favorite to win it all if they got Aldridge.

    That's why I think this rumor has teeth. Will it happen? I suppose it will depend on how much the Warriors want Aldridge. I think that drives this deal more than the Spurs wanting the #2 pick.
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    ...Not to mention LA historically has had success against Davis. This should be too selling point.

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    LMA has always schooled AD in every matchup. I see the appeal.

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    LMA shooting 3's has to open him up to a buncha different markets. He's relatively cheap and you know that he will always be available and give you good production. With Draymond falling off a cliff, the Warriors would be stupid to not trade for LMA.

    I like Josh Richardson, but I don't really see the fit here. Maybe he will have a bounce back year and he is a streaky shooter. But he would make a lot more sense if we drafted someone like Kira Lewis bc Richardson can't really create for himself and he can't create for others. So drafting a player that can do both would be a nice fit on the team... Assuming we trade DDR. If not then we don't need Lewis

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    Yup. Having Forbes on the roster for cheap doesn't sink the team. Starting him does. imo he's okay for 10-12 minutes as the 10th man.
    Having Forbes on the roster does sink the team cause Pop would overplay him no matter what

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    GS is looking to match up with the Lakers bigs. When you're in championship contention you're thinking about who you have to beat to win the le and what pieces you need to add to get there. LMA would be a decent counter to AD. Not sure the Warriors could do better. And even if they give up a couple of draft picks including #2 to get the deal done, with the rest of their lineup they'd probably be too much for LA. I'd pencil the Warriors in as the clear favorite to win it all if they got Aldridge.

    That's why I think this rumor has teeth. Will it happen? I suppose it will depend on how much the Warriors want Aldridge. I think that drives this deal more than the Spurs wanting the #2 pick.
    They will also have to face the Nuggets with Jokic. LMA has matched up pretty well with Jokic in the past.

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    C: Wiseman
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    C: Wiseman
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    Minnesota rumored to take Ball, GSW still seems like they're going to trade their pick and it sounds like Charlotte will take a run at Westbrook, which would include the 3rd pick (and possibly Graham and Batum).

    Wiseman could still be available at two, maybe Deni drops a couple of spots too.
    No chance 3 would be involved in a Westbrook trade. My sense would be Rozier/1 of Batum, Zeller or Monk for Westbrook/possibly House.

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    Aldridge is being vastly underrated by the world at large, and Golden State would be lucky to get him for #2 and Wiggins.

    He's been an effective scorer in the Spurs offense.

    Imagine how much better looks he'll get when it's Curry and Thompson bending defenses with their gravity instead of Murray and Forbes? How much easier will he have things when Draymond is at PF instead of Lyles?

    He'll never face a double when he does get posted. He'll be open on his mid range and threes. He still rebounds and protects the rim. And in the GS system when he works hard and gets advantage position early, he'll be rewarded instead of waiting for Murray to develop into a point guard.

    I'm reminded of when nobody, fans and teams included, wanted to give up anything for Kawhi, only a top 3 player in the league. Because they talked themselves into nonsense, either Kawhi couldn't play anymore instead of being a quitter, or being a system player, whatever.

    If Golden State gets him, everyone will be singing a different tune when GS is wrecking the league. "I can't believe they were able to get Aldridge, the rich get richer, this is bull !"

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    Aldridge is being vastly underrated by the world at large, and Golden State would be lucky to get him for #2 and Wiggins.

    He's been an effective scorer in the Spurs offense.

    Imagine how much better looks he'll get when it's Curry and Thompson bending defenses with their gravity instead of Murray and Forbes? How much easier will he have things when Draymond is at PF instead of Lyles?

    He'll never face a double when he does get posted. He'll be open on his mid range and threes. He still rebounds and protects the rim. And in the GS system when he works hard and gets advantage position early, he'll be rewarded instead of waiting for Murray to develop into a point guard.

    I'm reminded of when nobody, fans and teams included, wanted to give up anything for Kawhi, only a top 3 player in the league. Because they talked themselves into nonsense, either Kawhi couldn't play anymore instead of being a quitter, or being a system player, whatever.

    If Golden State gets him, everyone will be singing a different tune when GS is wrecking the league. "I can't believe they were able to get Aldridge, the rich get richer, this is bull !"
    Seriously. The Warriors are looking at b2b les with LMA. I honestly can't think of a better big name fit for that team that's available.

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    It’ll be hilarious to send LMA to GSW to the Lakers over but on the other hand, it’ll be hilarious to send DeRozan to the Lakers to the Clippers over. In the end of the day, our current makeup of our team is middle of the road and I just want them to improve for the future so I don’t care who wins the next few championships.

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    It’ll be hilarious to send LMA to GSW to the Lakers over but on the other hand, it’ll be hilarious to send DeRozan to the Lakers to the Clippers over. In the end of the day, our current makeup of our team is middle of the road and I just want them to improve for the future so I don’t care who wins the next few championships.
    Yup, this is how I think their line of thinking is right now.

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    Aldridge is being vastly underrated by the world at large, and Golden State would be lucky to get him for #2 and Wiggins.

    He's been an effective scorer in the Spurs offense.

    Imagine how much better looks he'll get when it's Curry and Thompson bending defenses with their gravity instead of Murray and Forbes? How much easier will he have things when Draymond is at PF instead of Lyles?

    He'll never face a double when he does get posted. He'll be open on his mid range and threes. He still rebounds and protects the rim. And in the GS system when he works hard and gets advantage position early, he'll be rewarded instead of waiting for Murray to develop into a point guard.

    I'm reminded of when nobody, fans and teams included, wanted to give up anything for Kawhi, only a top 3 player in the league. Because they talked themselves into nonsense, either Kawhi couldn't play anymore instead of being a quitter, or being a system player, whatever.

    If Golden State gets him, everyone will be singing a different tune when GS is wrecking the league. "I can't believe they were able to get Aldridge, the rich get richer, this is bull !"
    And if we get Wiseman, who could be the next Spurs cornerstone? "I can't believe they were able to find another legend! Why can't the Spurs go away? They had their 20 years of success already? Why do they get another 20?"

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    Aldridge is being vastly underrated by the world at large, and Golden State would be lucky to get him for #2 and Wiggins.

    He's been an effective scorer in the Spurs offense.

    Imagine how much better looks he'll get when it's Curry and Thompson bending defenses with their gravity instead of Murray and Forbes? How much easier will he have things when Draymond is at PF instead of Lyles?

    He'll never face a double when he does get posted. He'll be open on his mid range and threes. He still rebounds and protects the rim. And in the GS system when he works hard and gets advantage position early, he'll be rewarded instead of waiting for Murray to develop into a point guard.

    I'm reminded of when nobody, fans and teams included, wanted to give up anything for Kawhi, only a top 3 player in the league. Because they talked themselves into nonsense, either Kawhi couldn't play anymore instead of being a quitter, or being a system player, whatever.

    If Golden State gets him, everyone will be singing a different tune when GS is wrecking the league. "I can't believe they were able to get Aldridge, the rich get richer, this is bull !"
    This is on point, and why it makes me angry to think that Spurs could get low-balled in this deal. GSW needs someone like LMA much more than the Spurs need #2, which they can always tank for, not to mention they'd be dumping Wiggins along the way. I wouldn't include #11 on the deal and I hope the Spurs don't either.

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    This is on point, and why it makes me angry to think that Spurs could get low-balled in this deal. GSW needs someone like LMA much more than the Spurs need #2, which they can always tank for, not to mention they'd be dumping Wiggins along the way. I wouldn't include #11 on the deal and I hope the Spurs don't either.
    Theoretically. In reality, do they have the stomach for it? Small markets that are used to winning and governed by old school values are typically adverse.

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    Theoretically. In reality, do they have the stomach for it? Small markets that are used to winning and governed by old school values are typically adverse.
    Well, yes, theoretically - that's the point, and all we need, since we're talking bargaining and negotiation. Do the Spurs want to tank out a season for a #2 pick? Probably not. But they realistically could, and the Spurs would be very wise to get that point across when talking to GSW. Can the Warriors afford to wait out the trade period for better offers than LMA, strike out in FA, then come into the season with a gaping hole at C and no realistic way to get over LA? No, they can't, and the Spurs should also get that point across.

    Point stands, I wouldn't include #11 unless it's an absolute deal maker/breaker if it's not there. Hope this new GM we got knows his ways around bargaining... We're about to find out I guess.

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    Well, yes, theoretically - that's the point, and all we need, since we're talking bargaining and negotiation. Do the Spurs want to tank out a season for a #2 pick? Probably not. But they realistically could, and the Spurs would be very wise to get that point across when talking to GSW. Can the Warriors afford to wait out the trade period for better offers than LMA, strike out in FA, then come into the season with a gaping hole at C and no realistic way to get over LA? No, they can't, and the Spurs should also get that point across.

    Point stands, I wouldn't include #11 unless it's an absolute deal maker/breaker if it's not there. Hope this new GM we got knows his ways around bargaining... We're about to find out I guess.
    How much of these decisions are Wright's and how much is Pop and RC?

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    How much of these decisions are Wright's and how much is Pop and RC?
    Pretty sure decision making is done collectively.

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    Pretty sure decision making is done collectively.
    That's what I think too... I figure things go through Wright but the actual decision is collective (meaning Pop and RC are the main ones).

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    Well, yes, theoretically - that's the point, and all we need, since we're talking bargaining and negotiation. Do the Spurs want to tank out a season for a #2 pick? Probably not. But they realistically could, and the Spurs would be very wise to get that point across when talking to GSW. Can the Warriors afford to wait out the trade period for better offers than LMA, strike out in FA, then come into the season with a gaping hole at C and no realistic way to get over LA? No, they can't, and the Spurs should also get that point across.

    Point stands, I wouldn't include #11 unless it's an absolute deal maker/breaker if it's not there. Hope this new GM we got knows his ways around bargaining... We're about to find out I guess.
    The point is, the Warriors would know the Spurs are more than likely adverse and that this would be the apex of the value they could possibly hope to attain for Aldridge or DeRozan.

    What's the Spurs alternative for Aldridge? Horford, 21, 34 (3-way)? Olynyk and 20? Ariza, Hood, lottery protected future 1st? Or lose him for nothing next off season.

    Sure, the Warriors can either wait or make a different trade.

    I don't buy for a second that Wright would have the autonomy to make the final call on a trade of this magnitude. He'd likely do the legwork.

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