Lowe: Someone in league texted me and said there's a little bit of buzz about 2 for 11 + Aldridge

[talkspurs]

FiveThirtyEight Raptor

LaMarcus Aldridge -0.7 Offense, +0.8 Defense, +0.1 Net 2.5 WAR
Aldridge's value was on defense, and defense against Jokic and Davis is what the Warriors want.

Andrew Wiggins +0.5 Offense, -2.1 Defense, -1.5 Net, 1.2 WAR

2019 #2 Ja Morant +0.4 Offense, -1.5 Defense, -1.1 Net, 1.8 WAR

Offense and Defense are compared to NBA Average,
Wins above replacement is compared to the 391st best player in the NBA. 39 players were tied at 391 including Chimezie Metu.

You might have been trying to do this but to me shows why GS should do the trade of LMA for Wiggins and #2. They would have a better net and not much change on the WAR. Morant was also considered a better player then Wisemman (really I think any in this draft). Morant will probably get better but GS does not have time to wait they need to win now and would not have time for a Rookie to get better.

[DesignatedT]

It's pretty clear at this point in their careers that both Aldridge and DeRozan aren't thrilled to be playing in San Antonio. Does anyone really get the vibe that these dudes are ecstatic to be here? Of course not. So I don't get the hesitation in "trading your two best players" when both are likely to leave in upcoming free agency with the Spurs getting nothing in return. If the Spurs can get the #2 overall pick for Aldridge I would do that in a heartbeat. Hopefully they can get a third team involved to take on Wiggins. DeRozan for Kuzma and Green doesn't seem like the best deal out there but I wouldn't hesitate to trade DeRozan for a younger player who's showed potential. Spurs need to deal both these guys ASAP and start the true re-build.

[talkspurs]

It's pretty clear at this point in their careers that both Aldridge and DeRozan aren't thrilled to be playing in San Antonio. Does anyone really get the vibe that these dudes are ecstatic to be here? Of course not. So I don't get the hesitation in "trading your two best players" when both are likely to leave in upcoming free agency with the Spurs getting nothing in return. If the Spurs can get the #2 overall pick for Aldridge I would do that in a heartbeat. Hopefully they can get a third team involved to take on Wiggins. DeRozan for Kuzma and Green doesn't seem like the best deal out there but I wouldn't hesitate to trade DeRozan for a younger player who's showed potential. Spurs need to deal both these guys ASAP and start the true re-build.

Because you dont just trade to trade. Sometimes it is better to let players walk for nothing then have bad contracts. IN your argument of trade to get soemthing for them it would be a good trade to do LMA and #11 for wiggins. He has a bad contract and we may be able to get better offers. I would not do that trade would not even do it for #2 if we threw in #11. I would only do #2 and Wiggins for LMA. I am interested in Wiggins but also know how bad his contract is.

[SpursDynasty85]

Because you dont just trade to trade. Sometimes it is better to let players walk for nothing then have bad contracts. IN your argument of trade to get soemthing for them it would be a good trade to do LMA and #11 for wiggins. He has a bad contract and we may be able to get better offers. I would not do that trade would not even do it for #2 if we threw in #11. I would only do #2 and Wiggins for LMA. I am interested in Wiggins but also know how bad his contract is.

For Spurs that strategy does not work well. Talented NBA players just do not sign with the Spurs for the most part. Taking a bad contract that last for 2-4 years is equally sometimes the only way Spurs can bring a high talent-level. If they can pay the money, why would the Spurs fans care as long as the product on the floor is better. Championships are mainly won by team-owners forking over the money. Spurs can't always find a TP/Manu/TD in the draft anymore.

[talkspurs]

For Spurs that strategy does not work well. Talented NBA players just do not sign with the Spurs for the most part. Taking a bad contract that last for 2-4 years is equally sometimes the only way Spurs can bring a high talent-level. If they can pay the money, why would the Spurs fans care as long as the product on the floor is better. Championships are mainly won by team-owners forking over the money. Spurs can't always find a TP/Manu/TD in the draft anymore.

Aldridge could get more in demand as we get closer to the trade deadline (teams wanting to win and think they have a shot but need a big). Also having cap space can get you bad contracts in with picks on its own. If your getting fleeced in trade you dont make the trade. it would be better to have the cap space then the have a bad player. You dont just trade to say you made a trade.

[Realdeal1]

So are we doing Aldridge to Warriors for #2 pick???? ... I’m getting nervous with the Kevin Love to the Warriors talk

[Dverde]

So are we doing Aldridge to Warriors for #2 pick???? ... I’m getting nervous with the Kevin Love to the Warriors talk

I can’t see them picking Love over LMA. Golden State used to do drills about passing to the player Love guarded.

[SpursDynasty85]

I'm thinking deal is already in place. Just depends on what Timberwolves do draft night. Should they pick Wiseman for themselves or some other team, Spur's plans maybe in doodoo but hopefully they have solid backup plans.

[Dverde]

I'm thinking deal is already in place. Just depends on what Timberwolves do draft night. Should they pick Wiseman for themselves or some other team, Spur's plans maybe in doodoo but hopefully they have solid backup plans.

I imagine Spurs would do the deal for either Wiseman or Deni. GSW probably still sniffing around for a better deal.

[4lifecowboy]

I'm telling you guys Okongwu is the target. A defensive anchor.

[Dejounte]

I'm thinking deal is already in place. Just depends on what Timberwolves do draft night. Should they pick Wiseman for themselves or some other team, Spur's plans maybe in doodoo but hopefully they have solid backup plans.

Yeah, I think they have all kinds of contingencies. That's why they're looking at all sorts of similar players like Robert Woodard and Terry Armstrong (both identical). All the bigs like Isaiah, Jalen, Zeke, etc.

The Spurs have done their due diligence. I think they're crossing their fingers with us that things work out optimally during draft day.

[poopbox]

I'm telling you guys Okongwu is the target. A defensive anchor.

Would be pretty hilarious if the spurs did that deal with GS to move up to grab okongwu. He jumps off the screen defensively but you don't take a defensive big with the number 2 pick. At 2 it's really got to be Devi.

[SpurPadre]

If LMA goes to the Dubs and starts complaining about his touches, it will be interesting to see how that goes over if they hold onto Draymond.

[daslicer]

If LMA goes to the Dubs and starts complaining about his touches, it will be interesting to see how that goes over if they hold onto Draymond.

LMA is one of those strong silent types. I can see him punching out Draymond if Draymonds tries to come at him like he did to KD.

[daslicer]

I have heard a new rumor of Draymond Green for Kevin Love. It could impact the Spurs chances of trading LMA to the Warriors.

[K...]

If LMA goes to the Dubs and starts complaining about his touches, it will be interesting to see how that goes over if they hold onto Draymond.

my touches was 100% a kawhi fan invention. Kawhi, a known malcontent who has burned bridges with 2 franchises, and about to trade away his handpicked 2nd option to try and salvage his career. LMA has sulked a bit, but Curry is a rich man's Dame. He'll be fine

[Leetonidas]

I have heard a new rumor of Draymond Green for Kevin Love. It could impact the Spurs chances of trading LMA to the Warriors.

I heard that too. Which is dumb considering LMA is a much better player on a cheaper contract that isn't super soft and injury prone

[daslicer]

my touches was 100% a kawhi fan invention. Kawhi, a known malcontent who has burned bridges with 2 franchises, and about to trade away his handpicked 2nd option to try and salvage his career. LMA has sulked a bit, but Curry is a rich man's Dame. He'll be fine

Agreed the my touches crap is garbage. Most Spur fans don't realize 99 percent of stars are not built the way Duncan,Manu, Parker was which they can live with scoring less than 20 a game. Look at all the top stars like Curry,Durant, Lebron who will play in garbage time to pad their stats. Kawhi was also a black hole on offense and not willing to pass the ball to Lamarcus. No way a player like Lamarcus should be averaging only 16 a game like he was with Kawhi for those 2 years. Also blame Pop for lying to Lamarcus when he recruited him by promising him that his scoring would not go down in SA.

[daslicer]

I heard that too. Which is dumb considering LMA is a much better player on a cheaper contract that isn't super soft and injury prone

Agreed. Jokic and Davis will have a field day with Love. It doesn't make sense to me unless the Warriors also have plan to get a defensive center. I get the feeling the Cavs could be giving them both Drummond, and Love.

[4lifecowboy]

Hilarious? He is the best choice to fit with our young guns.

[Mugen]

How about a 3way trade with Love/LMA going to GSW, Wiggins to CLE, and Draymond to San Antonio?

[talkspurs]

Agreed. Jokic and Davis will have a field day with Love. It doesn't make sense to me unless the Warriors also have plan to get a defensive center. I get the feeling the Cavs could be giving them both Drummond, and Love.

That would be a ton of salary that would being sent out then to match. it would probably have to be wiggins and green going out.

[SpurPadre]

How about a 3way trade with Love/LMA going to GSW, Wiggins to CLE, and Draymond to San Antonio?

Pop would NEVER let a knucklehead like Draymond don a Spurs uniform.

[talkspurs]

Would not want dramond. Would much rather have wiggins.

[Mugen]

Pop would NEVER let a knucklehead like Draymond don a Spurs uniform.

Meh Draymond is a winning basketball player tbh, I'd take him any day of the week. Also Derozan literally has heavy ties with SoCal gangs and Pop slurps him off every chance he gets