So, looks like the Lakers are officially trading for Schroder, it's all but inked. Good riddance, it squashes the DD to LA trash trade rumor.
The LA to GSW trade makes too much sense not to happen in some fashion. People saying the Warriors won't trade the pick aren't looking at the big picture; cap hindrance of the pick, immediate le aspirations for the Dubs, extremely shallow FA pool in regards to serviceable bigs (much less star-quality bigs). It's not about whether LMA can "shut down" AD or Jokic - just about whether LaMarcus can hold his own against them, tire them down, trade buckets in the post, and be a general nuisance and offset the other teams' bigs' impact. You have the best shooting PG-SG combo ever to pick up the slack after him. The Warriors might get a better offer still, which we can't control, but as it stands we have a pretty solid chance of landing that #2 pick, IMO.
The thing I'm more interested in, are the specifics of the trade. Do we keep 11? Bring a third team? Ship out another of our players for that Minny pick? Please god, tell me Steve Kerr is a secret Dejounte fan...
Is there a better big than Aldridge the Warriors can push for?
Blake Griffin?
Joel Embiid?
Myles Turner?
Marc Gasol?
Gobert?
Are these bigs attainable?
The only reason why I don't see it happening is because Aldridge is 35. Put our homerism aside for a sec. lol.
The pay checks clear no matter what size market you’re in. Ignorant to always act like San Antonio is the problem. Problem is most all stars don’t want to be coached by Pop and be categorized a “Spurs system” player.
Joel > LA
Turner I'd rather have but probably < LA for next season.
I'll play devil's advocate.
Blake Griffin is a huge question mark health-wise, plus making exorbitant amounts of money on Detroit (isn't he on a supermax, iirc?). I'd think DET would do the trade, but I don't see it from the Warriors' perspective, especially money-wise. No chance Embiid is moved out of Philly this offseason, and even less chance he's dealt to the Warriors. Myles Turner I don't consider to be on the level of LMA, and don't know his contract situation, so I won't comment on him.
Marc Gasol is the interesting one... He's gone on the record saying he's looking to play for a contending team. He's an UFA, and the Raptors are prioritizing re-signing FVV, and possibly Ibaka, before him. There's two problems with the idea of him and the Warriors that I see: I'm under the impression that the Warriors are hard-capped, so they'd have to use the MLE or trade exception to sign him (can they do that? Idk), they can't trade for him (which also means they could get both LMA and Gasol, if he signs for a vet-min as a ringchaser, if I'm not mistaken). And two - he's also not as good of a player as LMA. He's slower, physically older (same age as LMA btw, but IMO hasn't stayed in as good a physical condition as LMA), and at least in Toronto he didn't shine last season, putting up a measly 7.5/6.3/3.3 over the season. Of course, you don't get a player like Gasol just for his offensive production, but I could see the Warriors hesitating to bank on a soon-to-be 36yo Gasol to be a centerpiece on their le run.
Gobert is a no-go, I don't think the Jazz are actively looking to trade him as of this offseason after all the things the team went through, I believe they're banking on continuity and the resurgence of Conley, plus development of Mitc and his chemistry with Rudy, to get to the next level, especially considering they haven't seen their team at "full force" since Bogdanovic missed the bubble. I can see them trotting the team out one last season before major changes are made.
I think the biggest benefit is offloading Wiggins in the deal. You get one season of LMA and cap space next year. GSW will be a great FA destination with their roster and new arena.
I believe they have to offload Draymond too in order to have cap space next year.
That may be the case since their guards and Draymond make so much money. I assumed 25 million going off the books gives you some cap space, but I know sometimes the salary cap is tricky nowadays.
I think the biggest compe ion is them going for Gasol or Whiteside. Gasol has started to show his age and Whiteside has been looked at as a me first player and while putting up great stats hurts the team. He also seems to be more about money but who know what chasing a ring could do. Neither of these would get rid of Wiggins though. I think this is the best possibility of happening and I think the teams may be seeing what they can get from other teams/from each other before agreeing to it.
And yet, in 44 NBA seasons, we’ve signed one marquee FA, and that was one year after our last championship. One. You keep dreaming. I hope the Spurs act. OKC built what should have been a championship team by drafting, running a cheap payroll, and renting their cap space.
Marc gasol might be going back to Europe
Joel is not being traded.
Turner is inexperienced compared to LaMarcus but a decent option
Gobert may or may not be in the trade market
Griffin is injury prone with time left on his contract
The only way the Warriors trade Green, is if it's a means to signing Antetokounmpo.
Thompson, Plumlee, Millsap, Turner, Howard, Leonard, Favors, Horford, Baynes, Whiteside, Len, Gasol are all possible big man targets.
Aldridge would be a top two fit (Horford) but it's not like there's a shortage of options or he's some Jokic/Davis antidote. The former repeatedly trucked him in the '19 playoffs and the latter is too mobile in space for him at this point.
So according to people, Turner is a fine alternative to Aldridge... Could they take in Wiggins? Is Turner worth a #2 pick from the Warriors perspective? Or would the Pacers have to include other players? And if they included more solid players, would that be a solid deal for the Warriors?
Golden State can be pretty flexible here. They don't need a star. Derrick Favors would be a great fit. , even Frank Kaminsky could play 18 mpg with them.
Repeat after me: We are not getting the 2nd pick from the Warriors.
We need to collectively say this so we can anti-jinx it.
It's not happening, guys.
Horford isn’t as good as Aldridge is. LMA Is going to look ten years younger in the GS offense, with all of that shooting gravity. He’s also a good rim protector, something they haven’t had since Bogut.
I’d say after that video of the GS GM saying that rookies don’t help you win in the playoffs that it’s close to 100% that they trade the pick, and we’re at the front of the line. I think this has been working for a while, and the real reason LMA didn’t go into the bubble.
I saw the video and agree with you, I just don't think it's clear cut going to be the Spurs.
Jokic would run roughshod over Turner in the post and he probably doesn't have sufficient lateral quicks to defend Davis in space.
Yet even in a down season (largely due to an awkward fit), he still graded out as the more impactful player. It's close enough that it comes down to fit.
They have a lot of what Horford brings in Green (not that there's a limit to it) and could actually use more go-to/ISO scoring, so I'd lean Aldridge in a vacuum. The difference is, Horford won't cost the 2nd pick.
LA has had some success against both of them. Not only that, who else is better than him that's available right now?
Gobert is attainable. But I don't think Utah would be interested in Wiggins and number 2. They kinda is win now. Griffin is too risky for warriors. Gasol I think is a FA. Turner is way worse than LMA.
i thought marc already agreed to play in europe.
it wouldn't surprise me if myles turner is who the warriors really want...
edit: now that i think about it, maybe la is who the warriors really want since... they already have looney... curry / klay / draymond / la / looney...
i'm kinda surprised by that.
still feeling the effects of the zaza torpedo...
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