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    Gobert is attainable. But I don't think Utah would be interested in Wiggins and number 2. They kinda is win now. Griffin is too risky for warriors. Gasol I think is a FA. Turner is way worse than LMA.
    Vucevic?
    A younger, longer, but less mobile kind of LMA with better outside touch and likely better playmaking. Magic is in the limbo, so they would be very interested.

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    i'm honestly super disappointed the spurs never paired la up with a somewhat high quality C (other than timmy). that's how you maximize him. i just don't understand how the spurs couldn't see that. let him score and not worry about needing to be the first guy back on defense. the warriors will see that clearly.

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    And yet, in 44 NBA seasons, we’ve signed one marquee FA, and that was one year after our last championship. One. You keep dreaming. I hope the Spurs act. OKC built what should have been a championship team by drafting, running a cheap payroll, and renting their cap space.
    Yep, before Durant, GS was built that way as well and won championships.

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    dream trade:


    something like: cp3 / white / dort / la / adams with lonnie and kj off the bench.


    a) i don't care if you like it
    b) yes, dort is that good
    c) spurs would have to up the ante on this trade TBH

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    i'm honestly super disappointed the spurs never paired la up with a somewhat high quality C (other than timmy). that's how you maximize him. i just don't understand how the spurs couldn't see that. let him score and not worry about needing to be the first guy back on defense. the warriors will see that clearly.
    They paired him with an elite passing/spot up range shooting/stationary rim protecting/uncontested rebounding Gasol until it no longer became tenable for him to play even part time "PF" due to the game's evolution and his declining athleticism.

    S bag and the inability to replace Parker/Ginobili with quality play makers were the downfall of his tenure here. If not for the former and with White's emergence, they probably win the '19 championship and would still be a contender today.

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    They paired him with an elite passing/range shooting/stationary rim protecting/uncontested rebounding Gasol until it no longer became tenable for him to play even part time "PF" due to the game's evolution and his declining athleticism.

    S bag and the inability to replace Parker/Ginobili with quality play makers were the downfall of his tenure here. If not for the former and with White's emergence, they probably win the '19 championship and would still be a contender today.
    i see what you're saying about la's declining athleticism. however, it's wasn't just la's declining athleticism but la's declining athleticism in conjunction with gasol's declining athleticism. a mcgee type would would allow for la to play the "PF".

    i agree with your second paragraph.

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    i see what you're saying about la's declining athleticism. however, it's wasn't just la's declining athleticism but la's declining athleticism in conjunction with gasol's declining athleticism. a mcgee type would would allow for la to play the "PF".

    i agree with your second paragraph.
    McGee has even less of a chance than Aldridge of defending "PF's".

    If Aldridge is to be paired with another C, it has to be one of the rare ones who can cross match defensively (think Adebayo).

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    McGee has even less of a chance than Aldridge of defending "PF's".

    If Aldridge is to be paired with another C, it has to be one of the rare ones who can cross match defensively (think Adebayo).
    mobility is my biggest concern. and not necessarily netting someone as great as bam.

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    maybe the warriors start la at the 5.

    but they will be very aware that their best lineup next year will be with la at the 4 and looney at the 5.

    la is taller than looney but that's moot. la is the scorer and looney is the defender.

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    looney is the only warrior i like so hopefully they have to give him up

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    I feel LMA/Derozan are Will in this clip with nobody in the league wanting to trade for them.


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    Not sure if it's been discussed, but can Poetl be included in trade packages? In the form of a sign and trade?

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    mobility is my biggest concern. and not necessarily netting someone as great as bam.
    The former was the point.

    Aldridge has been a C for a while, so he can't play next to a traditional one like McGee.

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    Not sure if it's been discussed, but can Poetl be included in trade packages? In the form of a sign and trade?
    Probably not with GS.

    S&T can't be done if the receiving team will be taken over the Apron, which will be $138,928,000 for 20/21.

    Also, the team receiving can't have spent any of it's MLE. So the team receiving has to be patient enough to wait on the deal.

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    Probably not with GS.

    S&T can't be done if the receiving team will be taken over the Apron, which will be $138,928,000 for 20/21.

    Also, the team receiving can't have spent any of it's MLE. So the team receiving has to be patient enough to wait on the deal.
    So maybe a third team then. Having Poetl as another trade asset could be huge. Unless the Spurs want to give up one Lonnie or DJ ...

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    Probably not with GS.

    S&T can't be done if the receiving team will be taken over the Apron, which will be $138,928,000 for 20/21.

    Also, the team receiving can't have spent any of it's MLE. So the team receiving has to be patient enough to wait on the deal.
    The part about the MLE is off, I believe. A team can't go over the apron if it has accepted a player via an S&T and/or used the MLE above the tax-payer limit (you don't have to reserve the full thing or even declare which MLE you use beforehand so long as you stay under the tax-payer limit). But the MLE itself shouldn't actually affect an S&T's viability. They're two different cap functions/exceptions.

    Unless, that is, there's something unique about this season that I haven't seen yet.

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    Anyways, I'm coming more around on a trade to get Wiseman, and now I wouldn't mind if they included #11 to get it done.

    My preferred player, Patrick Williams, probably will be off the board anyway. I don't particularly like most of the other players who will likely be available. If they got #2 and kept 11, I'd probably want them to swing for the fences on Poku who is more likely to bust than hit anyway.

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    RE: Poeltl, I'm on record for saying the Spurs should've shopped him last off-season to move up in the draft. Of course, I wanted to move up for Clarke, and that was unnecessary. But considering Doumbouya and Hachimura both went before the Spurs picked, maybe moving up would've gotten them a more-coveted target than Samanic.

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    The part about the MLE is off, I believe. A team can't go over the apron if it has accepted a player via an S&T and/or used the MLE above the tax-payer limit (you don't have to reserve the full thing or even declare which MLE you use beforehand so long as you stay under the tax-payer limit). But the MLE itself shouldn't actually affect an S&T's viability. They're two different cap functions/exceptions.

    Unless, that is, there's something unique about this season that I haven't seen yet.
    Right, I meant MLE in the context of the Apron as with regards to a S&T. I wasn't clear enough.

    Anyone who wants to read more, check out section 92 of the cbafaq

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    Since Patty is on the block, include him in talks too. The more I see it, the more I think there are ways to trade up. Just have to see what we're willing to sacrifice. IMO, you sacrifice everything but Keldon and White. I don't believe theres a big man in next year's draft as good as Wiseman. Might as well go for it.

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    I’m gonna be pretty bummed if the spurs don’t make some drastic changes, don’t want to go into the season with the same team as last year

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    Since Patty is on the block, include him in talks too. The more I see it, the more I think there are ways to trade up. Just have to see what we're willing to sacrifice. IMO, you sacrifice everything but Keldon and White. I don't believe theres a big man in next year's draft as good as Wiseman. Might as well go for it.
    Mills with Aldridge makes too much sense. They stay together, which makes sense as Mills was in the meeting to recruit Aldridge in the first place. Mills went to college like 35 minutes from San Francisco. And GS could send back Jordan Poole who supposedly thought he was going to be picked by the Spurs on draft night until GS grabbed him one pick ahead.

    But of course Pop would have to sign off, and Mills and his perceived leadership seems highly prized

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    I’m gonna be pretty bummed if the spurs don’t make some drastic changes, don’t want to go into the season with the same team as last year
    there will be major changes.

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    Vucevic?
    A younger, longer, but less mobile kind of LMA with better outside touch and likely better playmaking. Magic is in the limbo, so they would be very interested.
    He is better than advertised. But he is also a worse defender in LMA. LMA can check AD and Jokic.

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    If you want somebody to match up with Dwight and AD LaMarcus is your 1st option period. He always gets up to play against those 2. Seems to me like Boston is the most likely landing spot for Myles Turner. Marc Gasol would be another option for the Dubs, but he's not on LMA's level anymore. Also don't rule out Miami as a landing spot for Aldridge. They were interested at the deadline.

    Another thing from what I heard is that the Dubs are looking at 3-and-D wings in this draft, like Vassell and Nesmith, so they would most likely want the #11 pick to be included

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