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    What if TD stepped down so he'd have more time to focus exclusively on mentoring and working with Wiseman to build his game?
    Interesting thought.

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    I agree. I don’t think Wiseman is their guy.
    I hope like he is.

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    What if TD stepped down so he'd have more time to focus exclusively on mentoring and working with Wiseman to build his game?
    i'll have to pass on that.

    edit: if you mean timmy did it on the spurs' behalf. because that's how i originally interpreted what you wrote.

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    If LMA wants to go out a Spur, I’m 100% on board assuming he take a sizable pay cut after this year. I figured he want to go elsewhere these couple of productive years. Guy is a HOFer and a good teammate.
    This is the same dude who was complaining about touches/almost demanded a trade when he was playing alongside the best player in the world and the player who was responsible for bringing championship number 5 to SA.

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    hopefully i'm reading into it too much but the recent demar / la social media doesn't make me happy...

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    This is the same dude who was complaining about touches/almost demanded a trade when he was playing alongside the best player in the world and the player who was responsible for bringing championship number 5 to SA.
    Ew. Leonard was, is and probably always will be difficult and unfun to play with. This isn't a new take. Dude's been a black hole for several years now. It's not surprising at all that Aldridge didn't like his role in that offense.

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    Ew. Leonard was, is and probably always will be difficult and unfun to play with. This isn't a new take. Dude's been a black hole for several years now. It's not surprising at all that Aldridge didn't like his role in that offense.

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    hopefully i'm reading into it too much but the recent demar / la social media doesn't make me happy...
    same, I hate to say but maybe if anybody they’re only shopping around Patty and Rudy? And who knows maybe they are discussing some of the youngsters as well

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    same, I hate to say but maybe if anybody they’re only shopping around Patty and Rudy? And who knows maybe they are discussing some of the youngsters as well
    spurs should've swapped patty for schroder. he's patty 3.0.

    maybe spurs move rudy + #11 to atlanta for the #6 but i doubt that happens... atlanta is hungry... so are the knicks...

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    Ew. Leonard was, is and probably always will be difficult and unfun to play with. This isn't a new take. Dude's been a black hole for several years now. It's not surprising at all that Aldridge didn't like his role in that offense.
    Lol no . Doesn’t change the fact that Aldridge was complaining about personal stats/touches on a team that won 67 games. Stop talking about Aldridge like he’s some Duncan level teammate.

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    Lol no . Doesn’t change the fact that Aldridge was complaining about personal stats/touches on a team that won 67 games. Stop talking about Aldridge like he’s some Duncan level teammate.
    The context of his complaint has been misinterpreted.

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    Lol no . Doesn’t change the fact that Aldridge was complaining about personal stats/touches on a team that won 67 games. Stop talking about Aldridge like he’s some Duncan level teammate.
    I don't know that anyone mentioned that, Mr. Strawman. That doesn't mean that complaining about sharing the offense with Leonard makes him a uniquely bad teammate. It's pretty clear that Leonard's not a likeable player. Not just because he's quiet, but because he's selfish AF on and off the court.

    I also don't think Aldridge needed to care about the wins over his production. It's his career, and he can value whatever he wants. What we can say is that he kept his in house. He asked for a trade. When that didn't happen, he played out the next year, got his extension and carried two Kawhi-less teams to the playoffs. I don't doubt his Spurs cred after that. He's not Tim, but he's a damned sight better ambassador for the team than Leonard ever was.

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    Was watching some YouTube videos on various draft prospects, and Wiseman is totally legit but..... he definitely isn’t a win now type of player for GSW. I was thinking about how they use to use Andrew bogut on screen hand-offs, using him to set up passes on cuts, and passing to 3 point shooters, I don’t think Wiseman will be able to do that for them

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    I don't know that anyone mentioned that, Mr. Strawman. That doesn't mean that complaining about sharing the offense with Leonard makes him a uniquely bad teammate. It's pretty clear that Leonard's not a likeable player. Not just because he's quiet, but because he's selfish AF on and off the court.

    I also don't think Aldridge needed to care about the wins over his production. It's his career, and he can value whatever he wants. What we can say is that he kept his in house. He asked for a trade. When that didn't happen, he played out the next year, got his extension and carried two Kawhi-less teams to the playoffs. I don't doubt his Spurs cred after that. He's not Tim, but he's a damned sight better ambassador for the team than Leonard ever was.
    I agree with this 100%. I'm OK with Aldridge staying if we can't trade him and draft James Wiseman. If we can't get the number 2 pick for him, I'd much rather keep him on the team. He may not be a Tim Duncan level teammate, but he never screwed us over like Kawhi did. He wanted/asked for a trade, but went about it the right way and then came back and still played hard. Kawhi did the exact opposite. Aldridge, is alright in my book.

    Demar, on the other hand, I have no problem with the Spurs trading him if they can get something good in return.

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    I'm just going to come out and say I really don't see the GS deal happening. I do think an ATL deal could happen with White. It might include someone like Hueter also going back. But I think the likeliest events are the Spurs:

    1) trying to trade up and aren't able to get something done
    2) not trying to trade up
    3) trading up between 6-9 using White (and maybe get something back)
    4) trading down using Mills or Gay for a win-now player or a second-rounder
    5) trading up using Murray, DeRozan or Aldridge
    6) picking up a later first while holding onto their higher pick (either 11 or in a trade up)
    7) moving up into the top 3

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    Aldridge is 35. Production could fall off a cliff at any moment now. He’s been solid but he’s taken a beating the last few years inside and injuries continue to keep piling up on him. Move him while he still has value.

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    Move him while he still has value.
    Why?

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    1. The Spurs played their best basketball without him in the lineup last year.
    2. Obviously working on the assumption that he can still net the Spurs a combination of picks and/or young talent.

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    1. The Spurs played their best basketball without him in the lineup last year.
    1) The Spurs played way better basketball with him the two years before this year

    2) Those picks/young talent are basically irrelevant. Their draft hauls are going to come from their own picks after they're bad. Just ask Memphis is they regret waiting to blow it up.

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    35 years old on a team that isn't contending. No further explanation is needed

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    35 years old on a team that isn't contending. No further explanation is needed
    So? Plenty of older players play for non-contenders.

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    So? Plenty of older players play for non-contenders.
    Why should the Spurs follow suit, if that's the case? Why not rebuild to ensure a better long term future?

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    Lol no . Doesn’t change the fact that Aldridge was complaining about personal stats/touches on a team that won 67 games. Stop talking about Aldridge like he’s some Duncan level teammate.
    Guys care about their numbers that's what most Spur fans don't understand because they were spoiled by Duncan and Manu who were two guys that didn't care about their stats. I remember a few years ago a reporter asking Klay Thompson if he was willing to score less than 20 points a game now that they got Durant and his response was " no". Steve Kerr would even play Curry,Klay,Durant,Green in garbage time so they could get their numbers. Lebron also needs to stat pad so he get his numbers. All players are like that; Duncan was just the exception to the rule. I remember once reading a story about how Phil Jackson wanted Jordan back in 1990 to be a 20 point scorer instead of a 30 point scorer so the bulls could win more games and Jordan's response to that was " no".

    To be fair to LMA he made it clear to Pop when he was recruiting him that he wanted to make sure that he would still get to score the same amount points a game in Portland. Pop assured him at that time that he would still get the same scoring opportunities that he got in Portland. Not surprising he got upset once his production had gone down.

    Also give LMA some credit for those consecutive 60 win season the Spurs had during his first two years here. Kawhi was the best player but without LMA we are not sniffing 60 plus wins but at best around 50 with Kawhi. He proved how great he was when he lead the Spurs to nearly 50 wins the year Kawhi sat out with the Spurs second best player being a tie between 40 year old Manu and Rudy Gay.

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    A lot of time spent on this thread talking about what Aldridge did in 2017. It was nice, but not sure it matters in the context of what to do with him now.

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    This is the same dude who was complaining about touches/almost demanded a trade when he was playing alongside the best player in the world and the player who was responsible for bringing championship number 5 to SA.
    Gross take.

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