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unless they believe that with the SA training system, he has David Robinson potential, in which case it would be stupid not to do so.
Wiggins is the very definition of empty calories who is paid like a superstar but plays like an average starter. The Spurs would be nuts to trade for him in order to take a project like Wiseman.
unless they believe that with the SA training system, he has David Robinson potential, in which case it would be stupid not to do so.
Taking on Wiggins isn't really a problem. Next off-season you'll have more teams with cap space chasing to few FA's to spend it on. An 'empty calorie' year for Wiggins probably let's us move him for positive value in that environment.
-If GSW gets nothing from Chicago, then why is Chicago being included?
Maybe, if GSW likes WCJ better than 11, then:
Chicago Gets- #2, Looney
Spurs Gets-#4, Wiggins
GS Gets-LMA, WJC
-It seems more like an either/or with GSW choosing offers between Chicago, The Spurs, or another team.
-I think that 2021 Minny pick is highly unlikely to be moved. That's probably a top 10 pick, in a much better draft. GSW isn't including, that for sure. So I don't think GSW would do that second trade.
The only reason would be because GS can't get the spurs to bite on LMA + 11 for Wiggins +2 because they think Wiseman is going at #1... Carter Jr would be the incentive for us to drop to 4 and take Deni...obi etc
How is that nuts? If the Spurs assessed Wiseman; or someone else, and decided it was worth making such an aggressive move, then they think he has the potential to be a star.
Taking on Wiggins is a big selling point in their offer to GSW, its how they'd get the number 2 pick. Otherwise GSW probably wouldn't consider our offer.
The Bulls were a much better defensive team with Carter on the floor last year. I think he helps right away.
Sounds unlikely Wiseman goes number 1, seems pretty likely that its Ball or Edwards. Even if he does, then i'm sure that the Spurs would still be willing to make that deal with GSW so they can take Deni.
Still think that it would be an either/ or with GSW choosing between The Bulls, Spurs, or another team.
If minny picks #1 yes...but it sounds like they want to move back and teams that are interested in moving up ate looking at Wiseman.
Wendall has a lot of potential but not many 21 year old's can be a key contributor on a team that is trying to make the Finals. If they're thinking about the long term, then sure. Carter, Avdija, and the Minny 2021 first is a very good start towards an eventual Warriors team.
Otherwise, Aldridge helps more in the short- term. Remains to be seen if another team swoops in with a better offer, that helps GSW win now, though.
that's the mfer I don't want. I want aldridge gone, but I don't want wiggins. He's worse than Derozen
Wow, this would be a haul for the Warriors-- and it seems plausible. Carter showed a lot of growth between his rookie and sop re seasons, so I think it's fair to say he'd be ready to contribute to a Golden State playoff run more than anyone at #11.
At least Wiggins can shoot the three. If we take Wiggins I don’t understand what the lineup will be. Have to many guards.
Well Phoenix seems to think their 8-0 bubble record meant something, otherwise they would not have traded for Chris Paul...
Beyond the record you can just look at the offensive and defensive metrics and splits and see this team was better without Aldridge...although not playing Forbes has a ton to do with that...
We never get to see Keldon play that well if Aldridge is in the bubble...he would not have been doing anything but watching Aldridge do shoulder fakes and turn around jumpers if he had played...
Also it's not like whoever we draft instantly makes the spurs some contender so taking on Wiggins contract right now probably won't be a big deal unless they have plans for a big free agency next season...then yeah wiggins deal could cripple them
Warriors would just send Looney back to Bulls. Would send Smiley to Spurs. Salary headaches are not really an issue.
The rumor is that they'd take Wiseman with the intention of trading back, it's possible but I still think they'd go with Ball.
This is right. If the Spurs can get Wiggins to play defense or limit his long range two point attempts, he'd likely be a positive asset by next summer. Wiggins is a negative asset, but not irredeemably negative.
unfortunately he can't hit the shot
If a big name free agent wants to sign with Spurs, you can attach a pick to him and move him. It's not a big deal. And it's better to have one or two large contracts on payroll in case you need those contracts to make a trade work. Wiggins' deal really isn't a problem.
Hey 33% is better than DDR at 28%!
yes, he is a better 3pt shooter than Demar (I really wasn't comparing), but Demar is on another level as an offensive player, however I agree that Wiseman + Wiggins is more valuable than Demar in the current scenario.
But the spurs love those shots
Isn't Wiggins 6'8"
If the spurs were picking higher they probably could of pulled this trade off. 2-11 is too big of a drop for g.st
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