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Completely agree.
Ph, wow, what do ya know?
Completely agree.
Now you're moving the goal posts. Tanking teams are filled with youth, many of whom are getting the opportunity of a lifetime, trying to establish themselves in the league and set themselves up for life with their second contract.Sure, because players just can't see that the "organizational direction" is to intentionally lose...
Good question with Zeller. I can't see why he hasn't be waived. Yeah Haliburton was a good pick at 12. I love Vassell's upside too, I think a long wing who can already shoot & defend is a guaranteed NBA starter as worst.
Why though? It ties into my original argument for Ex. The fact is that none of the Lakers' young players were good or developed correctly until after they left the team that drafted them. Whether that's because of the losing culture, or the Lakers' particularly bad PD department, is not clear. I believe it's more the former, and there's a long list of players drafted into tanking teams and losing situations (where they weren't actively told to throw games, mind you) that failed to develop properly because of it.
Filling a team with youth and hoping they'll develop without vet guidance or a good culture to grow into is a recipe for disaster, IMO. Sure, the teams might finally grow into better players - once they're off your team and onto a better one. Not much use for us if we were to go that route, considering the low attractiveness of SA as a market.
Maytbe as training camp body
Zeller WILL be waived. They just need bodies for training camp. They can’t afford him under the tax, or anything other than a rookie on a minimum deal, and still stay under the tax.
We’re actually not arguing about the concept of tanking. I think it’s a bad idea. I just didn’t like your LAL example.
The Spurs more than likely aren't going to draft the type of guy you're talking about though. They draft Spurs type guys that seem to have been good teammates and aren't divas. Neph fooled a lot of ppl.
That and they'll be doing Zeller (and Zeller's agent a favor) and keeping him as long as they can before tax consequences. No doubt he appreciates the paycheck while his agent is trying to find him a gig...
Actually, it was DMC's example actually, I was talking about teams like OKC, Phoenix, Sacramento. But yeah.
I hope you are right about the Spurs finding another Superstar whose not a diva. The only current superstars that play today that I feel have Spurs like qualities are Jokic,Doncic, and maybe Giannis if he stays with the bucks. That's a very small group. Notice how the guys I listed are all foreigners. The rest of the superstars all have issues.
First you claimed organizations tell players to lose in taking situations, then you tried to walk it back and claim it's players reading the tea leaves.
The Lakers young players were mostly one and done (I don't think it's a coincidence that the three who more or less played up to or exceeded immediate expectations were Clarkson, Nance, Kuzma, all spent 3-4 years in college) when they played for them and also had to play under an immense spotlight that's unusual for young players on bad teams. They were naturally going to get better.
The rest of this is a different topic from what I commented on.
Yes, exactly. I think many foreigners feel a bond with the teams that draft them given they're not just learning the NBA, but often times how to be an American at the same time. They click with their local NBA communities. That initial connection is often good enough to last their NBA career, especially when a team like the Spurs focuses the team oriented activities and makes it feel like an extended family.
Yes, Jokic is Spurs to his core.
Oh, you were just addressing that part of my post? You really pick your cherries, smh. I see your point, it was bad wording on my side, and I don't particularly feel like players don't know they're going out there to lose when they're on a tanking team like you're trying to make a distinction of, so it's kind of moot if they're actively being told that they'll tank the season or not. Players aren't stupid. As for the Lakers, I think DMC didn't mention any of those you speak of, the ones who got better after leaving the Lakers were Lonzo, Ingram, and uhh Hart? What's he even up to? Lol. At least those were the ones I was talking about.
What's wrong with Curry?
Nothing I actually forgot about Curry.
Franchise players don’t grow on trees. We had one in Leonard be turned out to be a complete total ing bag. So we try to keep building.
OP sounds like an emo shemale.
Lighten up francis.
You remind me of stork from animal house. What caused your brain damage, you broken record?
It's a go to move around here. The got clap back.Umm, not sure what to say, but I'll go with OP is a gott. That's worked in the past on here.
It's the spurstalk version of deez nuts. Often overused and misused
It sucks that he was re ed and has an unhealthy emotional attachment with his uncle that can't be severed. It pisses me off sometimes thinking about how the Spurs were on the verge of doing something great historically that had never been done before which was seamlessly transition to another era of winning after losing their GOAT player Duncan. Spurs almost cheated the rebuilding mediocrity process teams have to go through after losing their GOAT but dip and his sleazebag Uncle prevented that from happening. Spurs were very unlucky with Kawhi. I guess statistically they were due for bad luck after having good luck with getting Gervin,Robinson,Duncan.
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I couldn't have said it better.
nailed it. I think that's how we all feel
Nice some one makes up quotes when you cannot at all refute post that FO has underperformed over last three years yet this board in part ok with mediocrity at best.Ph, wow, what do ya know?
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