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I think if Trump had gone full Red Tory he'd be re-elected now. Everybody likes goodies.
Hawley allying himself with Bernie on stimulus this week was a bold strategy, not sure if it’ll serve him well in winning a primary.
I think if Trump had gone full Red Tory he'd be re-elected now. Everybody likes goodies.
Nope. Can't go back ...that's what got us Trump elected. We need actual change going forward.
"actual change"
What does that look like exactly?
Good point, if only we had a Republican Senate right now we might actually get a stimulus done.
for starters you losing about 100lbs of back fat
What does that look like exactly?
Didn't Trump and the Reps float a so called skinny bill that the Democrats rejected because they didn't want to make Trump look good before an election? Nothing is going to get done till the dust settles from this election.
Well we know what you hard lefters consider progress - no more cow farts. Defund police. Figure out how to abort babies using solar power, etc.classic example of votingrepublican.jpeg, McConnell has been the single biggest impedement to stimulus as he says he’s refusing to introduce any stimulus plan that doesn’t include corporate immunity for any negligence that leads to employees or customers getting COVID. The idea that keeping him as majority leader makes it so the senate can get stuff done is even more re ed than your usual take.
Carry on with the non sense, Will.
The house passed the HEROES Act back in May. Why won’t McConnell bring it to the floor for a vote?
Biden was virtually a Republican for most of his career. He has fostered relationships with many of these people over the years. I think he has 6-12 months in office before the Democrats have him replaced. I'd expect some bipartisan issues to get passed as the temperature lowers over the next 6 months. Mitch is cunning, not stupid.
They did, but when the dust settles, the political calculus will have changed for McConnell and the GOP. They'll be loathe to let Democrats pose as Santa Claus and hand them a political win.
If the GOP keeps the Senate they'll do nothing but obstruct, like they did with Obama.
Hawley isn't that well known yet, I think DJT is the odds on GOP candidate if he's still alive and not in prison. Then Pence, Trump Jr and Tom Cotton.
Trump and his re supporters got baited by MccConnell into thinking Trump should focus on ramming judges through above all else because they would help him steal the election.
MAGAatds have been Mitchslapped
remind me, did Antifa ever say they were going to start a revolution or overthrow the government?
That gif never stops being funny, even better with a crying #DiaperDon
In Germany before 1933, jurist Carl Schmitt urged the republic to outlaw two dangerous parties, the Communist and the Nazis. The Weimar Republic did neither and was taken over from within by the Nazis.
The situation is somewhat analogous now. One of two major parties has essentially abandoned democratic norms by supporting Trump's attempted judicial coup. If they face no adverse political consequence for doing so they'll almost surely try to do it again.
Seems to me the question is, how does one protect democracy from a fascist party (i.e., the GOP) without falling afoul of normative democracy in the process? Refusing to seat or otherwise expelling 106 duly elected members of the US House would be construed as disenfranchisement, and the incoming administration would be obliged to deal harshly with any resulting civil disorder. But not doing so could portend the end of democracy in the USA.
Do you outlaw the Republican Party? Make Reps who signed a bad amicus brief swear an pledge not to discredit or undermine elections in the future? It's not easy to see how to stop fascism from taking power without resembling it in certain ways.
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I don't think signing an amicus brief legally speaking amounts to insurrection or treason, but it aimed at something similar. In normal times one would say, wait until the next election and vote 'em out. Problem with that is two decades of gerrymandering, voter suppression, and rollback of VRA enforcement. Some of these people can't be voted out.
Say the Dems won both GA runoffs and expelled 106 GOP Rep from the House. Their legislative clout would be akin in some ways to the Reconstruction Congress, but legislatively it could be screwed up either SCOTUS or Joe Manchin. And I don't see how any Cons utional Amendments could be passed without an analogous purge of disloyal Republicans in the various states.
All this would look exactly like tyranny to Republicans, but tyranny is exactly what many of them are calling for now.
This strikes me a particularly dangerous juncture for democracy in the US. The malady and the cure both appear to be very bad.
I think people should vote out these demagogues...
On the other hand, I'd like to see sanctions for the lawyers that filed all those frivolous lawsuits, and hopefully lose their license to practice too.
We'll see where Joe goes with Dennison. Might leave it to the SDNY to it's thing, we'll see. Hopefully the Elite Strike Team also are his defense lawyers.
They shouldn't expel anybody for it, IMO. There's a point where this touches on the 1st Amendment. But the dems should campaign on this.
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