Coronavirus treatments and vaccines thread

[Pelicans78]

I was vaccinated 3 days ago and outside of mild soreness to my shoulder, I feel fine.

[boutons_deux]

I was vaccinated 3 days ago and outside of mild soreness to my shoulder, I feel fine.

it's the 2nd shot that kicks your ass for a day or two.

this appears to be what was described months ago about the two-immune system

The first shot (infection) gets reaction from the non-specific innate immune system, while the acquired immune system is not activated

The immune system then starts "acquiring" specific immunity so when the second shot arrives, the acquired immune aggressively attacks and you feel it.

It's the "cytokine storm" of the acquired immune system that puts people in ICU and kills them.

[Winehole23]

finger tentatively pointed at polyethylene glycol sensitivity for allergic reactions to the Pfizer vaccine:

Dr. Peter Marks, director of the FDA’s Center for Biologics Evaluation and Research, said at a press conference that the allergic reactions had been reported in more than one state, including in Alaska.

Marks also said that a chemical called polyethylene glycol (PEG) that is an ingredient in the Pfizer vaccine - as well as the Moderna Inc vaccine authorized on Friday - “could be the culprit” causing the reactions.

Marks said that allergic reactions to PEG could be somewhat more common than previously understood.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKBN28T05J

[Pelicans78]

it's the 2nd shot that kicks your ass for a day or two.

this appears to be what was described months ago about the two-immune system

The first shot (infection) gets reaction from the non-specific innate immune system, while the acquired immune system is not activated

The immune system then starts "acquiring" specific immunity so when the second shot arrives, the acquired immune aggressively attacks and you feel it.

It's the "cytokine storm" of the acquired immune system that puts people in ICU and kills them.

Have you taken the shot? Is that the reaction you had?

[boutons_deux]

finger tentatively pointed at polyethylene glycol sensitivity for allergic reactions to the Pfizer vaccine:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKBN28T05J

https://www.amazon.com/Basic-Care-Cl...ag=googhydr-20

PEG also used to displace water in and stabilize wood to prevent warping and splitting

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PEGylated Adenoviral Vaccines

https://www.cell.com/molecular-thera...016(16)39559-4

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PEG is also anti-freeze

[Winehole23]

https://www.amazon.com/Basic-Care-Cl...ag=googhydr-20

PEG also used to displace water in and stabilize wood to prevent warping and splitting

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PEGylated Adenoviral Vaccines

https://www.cell.com/molecular-thera...016(16)39559-4

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PEG is also anti-freeze

you can find it in eye drops, toothpaste and personal lubricant too. myriad uses.

[Winehole23]

tempering expectations about widespread vaccination among low-risk groups: "early summer to fall"

[Death In June]

Waited 4 hours for the vaccine yesterday. Outside of insane crowding from people who should know better, it was fine. Arm is sore.

[DarrinS]

Waited 4 hours for the vaccine yesterday. Outside of insane crowding from people who should know better, it was fine. Arm is sore.

Sounds fishy

[pgardn]

"Gautz said all 115 prisoners who tested positive twice were asymptomatic at the time of their second diagnosis.

Sims said it's not yet known whether someone who becomes reinfected and is asymptomatic can spread the virus.

"That’s the big question that nobody knows," he said."


All it takes is some small amount of virus to be your nose to trigger PCR positive.

absolutely

if this virus plays by basic viral rules.

It is worth noting that it appears this virus upped the ability to infect people

it may even be the virus in pieces these tests are picking up incapable of being transmitted and causing another infection in another person.

it really needs to be emphasized that viruses are very fragile outside of cells. and especially outside of a body. That’s what makes this virus amazing because it quite possibly can be produced in enormous loads andQuickly transmit as an aerosol or in blobs of “water”

[pgardn]

Sounds fishy

it does

people have already been vaccinated in San Antonio as early as Thursday

[boutons_deux]

tempering expectations about widespread vaccination among low-risk groups: "early summer to fall"

The inequality of C19 vaccine availability will match or exceed the inequality of socio-economic status.

In America, if you're poor, non-white, you're ed. It's The Real America (not the Mythical American fantasy) that intentionally s you, and keeps you ed.

[pgardn]

The inequality of C19 vaccine availability will match or exceed the inequality of socio-economic status.

In America, if you're poor, non-white, you're ed. It's The Real America (not the Mythical American fantasy) that intentionally s you, and keeps you ed.

Health care people are getting it in SA.
And its not just doctors that have nothing to do with Covid patients.
Keep it coming.
I hope.

[Death In June]

Sounds fishy

Fishy? How so? Our largest privately owned hospital got 5,000 doses for healthcare workers.

[tholdren]

Health care people are getting it in SA.
And its not just doctors that have nothing to do with Covid patients.
Keep it coming.
I hope.

Lol you get a vax, not a vax, that isn't proven to prevent spread or infection


Get it bro!

[Ef-man]

Lol you get a vax, not a vax, that isn't proven to prevent spread or infection


Get it bro!

Ignorant foldren folds.

[ChumpDumper]

Lol you get a vax, not a vax, that isn't proven to prevent spread or infection


Get it bro!

You've been vaccinated over and over, vaxboi.

[TimDunkem]

Folden so old he has had every vax known to man

[tholdren]

Lol you get a vax, not a vax, that isn't proven to prevent spread or infection


Get it bro!

Yet no one argued with science just folded

[Ef-man]

Folden so old he has had every vax known to man

[Winehole23]

black box allocation by algorithm, by a private company (Palantir)

some states have their own algos for internal distribution.

In an effort to achieve its goal of inoculating 100 million Americans by Q1 2021, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services partnered with data-mining firm Palantir to develop a software platform called Tiberius. Tiberius, which covers 50 states, eight territories, the Veterans Health Administration, the Bureau of Prisons, the Indian Health Service, and the departments of Defense and State, allows states and federal agencies to see health care providers enrolled in VTrckS, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s (CDC) vaccine tracking system. They can also use Tiberius to make decisions about where they send the vaccine within their jurisdictions.

Each Thursday, vaccine producers inform Operation Warp Speed, the U.S. public-private COVID-19 treatment development partnership, how much vaccine is available for the upcoming week. On Friday, Tiberius runs an algorithm that draws on variables including adult population and vaccine uptake and allocates the number of doses available to every state. On Saturday, every state finalizes their orders, and deliveries arrive on Monday.

Operation Warp Speed’s chief of plans Col. Deacon Maddox has described Tiberius’ algorithm as “simple,” “equitable,” and “fair.” According to Maddox, it takes as input “risk-adjusted” manufacturing estimates, a small portion from which is subtracted to provide a “safety stock” and the remainder of which is divided by population estimates from the U.S. Census Bureau’s 2018 American Community Survey and the CIA’s World Factbook.

While it’s impossible to know exactly which variables the Tiberius algorithm considers in its decisions — that information isn’t public — its reliance on U.S. census data is cause for worry. Because of time constraints, a shortage of manpower, and other confounders, the Census Bureau regularly undercounts populations in certain regions of the country.

“When I hear you’re covering 50 states and eight territories with data determined, in part, from these sources, I want to know what on earth you’re doing when some of those sources just aren’t available,” Keyes said. “Working it out on the back of an envelope? Giving up entirely? The answer might be a good one, and the approach might be the best one they can take at the time, but it’s worrisome that the answer isn’t, as far as I can tell, known.”

https://venturebeat.com/2020/12/19/c...-inequalities/

[boutons_deux]

New Evidence Suggests COVID-19 Can Directly Enter The Brain

Researchers may be one step closer to unlocking the mystery of

brain fog and "COVID dementia" caused by the coronavirus.

Evidence tying COVID-19 to a wide range of neurological effectscontinues to grow.

And now, a new animal study suggests the virus is capable of directly invading the brain.

The effects could be serious, leading to brain fog and something researchers call “COVID dementia.” the S1 “ e” protein that studs the SARS-CoV-2 virus is able to cross the blood-brain barrier,

the e protein could detach and circulate, which would mean that many of the neurological effects we blame on the virus are actually due to those freed proteins,

many individuals infected with COVID-19 experience a kind of

mental fog, struggling with attention issues, fatigue and forgetfulness.

A small study in France found that nearly 35% of patients who’d been hospitalized with COVID-19 were

struggling with memory loss months later.

we can’t tell the long-term effects, because we haven’t had enough time with the virus yet,”

33 people in Germany who died from COVID-19 found that more than half of the patients had evidence of SARS-CoV-2 in their noses and their brains, suggesting the virus had directly entered.

growing range of neurological effects that appear directly linked COVID-19 infection, such as clotting (which can cause serious brain injuries).

It is also possible the brain sustains damage when an infected person’s immune system kicks into overdrive.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/new-evidence-suggests-covid-19-can-directly-enter-the-brain_l_5fdbfcefc5b610200988f871?ncid=newsltushpmg news

"Relax. Calm down. Chillax. It's just the flu"

[Winehole23]

all these jokers who minimize COVID-19 ignore morbidity and post-infection symptoms. the greater the case load, the longer the tail.

[boutons_deux]

all these jokers who minimize COVID-19 ignore morbidity and post-infection symptoms. the greater the case load, the longer the tail.

yep, simplistically counting only C19 dead ignores the 100Ks of survivors with a range serious, varying symptoms, including in the under-65 population.

[pgardn]

all these jokers who minimize COVID-19 ignore morbidity and post-infection symptoms. the greater the case load, the longer the tail.

because Trump did not get knocked on his ass.
too many people of all ages have said it’s a on the symptoms.
much worse than the flu. recovery time much longer.

most of these people battle the virus at home, not with eight of the best nurses in the nation watching them every second and with the best drugs.