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    Now we can all move on to discussing if the Spurs overpaid him

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    I'm fairly certain posts on this site actually control the universe. Haven't quite figured out the how, yet.
    So that's why the world is such a hole right now

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    So that's why the world is such a hole right now

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    It will be,if this goes to next summer. They might be able to get him for $18M now. That would be 4/$72. I’m guessing they’re offering DJ money, $16M.
    Damn, I was a million off.

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    Markkanen is an intriguing free agent for next offseason, wouldn't be opposed if he was the target next summer tbh.

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    Markkanen is an intriguing free agent for next offseason, wouldn't be opposed if he was the target next summer tbh.
    People whining about White's health would lose their signing him tbh. Dude has missed more games than he's played iirc.

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    White's contract status looming over everything would have made this a miserable season to watch, tbh. The Spurs being incentivized to not play White and White being incentivized to play it safe and not risk further injury? No thank you.

    Definite sigh of relief that the deal got done.

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    Markkanen is an intriguing free agent for next offseason, wouldn't be opposed if he was the target next summer tbh.
    Between Lauri and Luka, one of them has to pan out.... right?

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    Markkanen is an intriguing free agent for next offseason, wouldn't be opposed if he was the target next summer tbh.
    Of the six extensions candidates who didn't get deals done (J. Collins, Allen, Markkanen, Ball, Hart, Z. Collins), J. Collins and him are the two that obviously stand out as players the Spurs could have interest in.
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    White's contract status looming over everything would have made this a miserable season to watch, tbh. The Spurs being incentivized to not play White and White being incentivized to play it safe and not risk further injury? No thank you.

    Definite sigh of relief that the deal got done.
    Hey timvp, did you get my last PM?

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    Markkanen is an intriguing free agent for next offseason, wouldn't be opposed if he was the target next summer tbh.
    With cap space, the Spurs can outright absorb salary, right? I'm not sure FAs are the thing to look at, here, but rather pulling decent talent off rosters that need to shed talent.

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    Lol all u cliff jumpers talking trash bout organization like yall kno better...love when they prove u wrong

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    Lol all u cliff jumpers talking trash bout organization like yall kno better...love when they prove u wrong
    because PATFO have really been hitting it out of the park the past five seasons, amirite?

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    Confirmation or speculation?
    Wasted energy. Nice.

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    Loved the delay signing Mugen and Robz4000 circlejerk then getting blue balled was fun to read.

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    Loved the delay signing Mugen and Robz4000 circlejerk then getting blue balled was fun to read.
    Robz and I spoke it into existence with the reverse jinx. You're welcome, nerd.

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    They’ll pay him; this is just a play on flexibility for next summer. They have his bird rights����
    Whoa........calm your s boys!!! Especially Mugen.....

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    They're doin just fine considering the hand they've been dealt. Gotta play the long game

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    Raptors luck strikes again.

    Meanwhile, as usual we're left to wait and hope these fools do the obvious thing.
    imagine thinking making good negotiations and cheap signings has anything to do with "luck". Seriously, my guy, do you gamble or something? Poker? If luck played as much a part as you thought it did, and you had some, you'd be cashin'.

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    because PATFO have really been hitting it out of the park the past five seasons, amirite?
    Give them credit where it's due, tbh. It's a great contract, and reading the thread in hindsight is hilarious. Even timvp was losing hope for a second... .

    Really excited to see White ball this season! Also great that he's paid more than DJ. I think there's an outside shot that this season sees the end of the DJ-at-PG experiment, once Derrick really settles as primary ballhandler-playmaker on the team (especially if DD is traded at the deadline) and Dejounte is forced to play off ball. Of course, I'd love even more to have the starting SG be Vassell, but let's go baby steps for now...

    Btw, thanks for the reverse jinx.

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    Yo....I am so glad I missed the panic today.

    He was signed by gr he time I was able to check sports news.

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    imagine thinking making good negotiations and cheap signings has anything to do with "luck". Seriously, my guy, do you gamble or something? Poker? If luck played as much a part as you thought it did, and you had some, you'd be cashin'.
    Yeah, because I guess the so called "dumb" teams aren't trying to do the same thing, right? Nah, it's only the so called "smart" teams try to sign players to team friendly contracts because they know something others don't, despite doing the same job.

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    Yeah, because I guess the so called "dumb" teams aren't trying to do the same thing, right? Nah, it's only the so called "smart" teams try to sign players to team friendly contracts because they know something others don't, despite doing the same job.
    Of course they are - the difference is "dumb" teams (what a word to describe them) have less-than-capable FOs and staff (which you consistently fail to identify), who either can't negotiate good enough deals, are short-sighted or plain stupid in terms of which players to sign or how much money they're worth (like Minnesota foolishly thinking Wiggins was worth a max contract), and consistently fail to give out good contracts. Surely giving out 5 bad contracts in a row isn't luck, is it? And the opposite is true as well. Also implying every FO executive should or could give out the same contracts because they "do the same job"

    You can say a deal like Curry's original deal was "lucky" due to the timing and the fact that he didn't get injured again, but a contract like this? Seriously? Like... Can you be a bit more specific? Which part of the process is "luck" playing a part in? Original negotiations, the signing itself...?

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    Give them credit where it's due, tbh. It's a great contract, and reading the thread in hindsight is hilarious. Even timvp was losing hope for a second... .

    Really excited to see White ball this season! Also great that he's paid more than DJ. I think there's an outside shot that this season sees the end of the DJ-at-PG experiment, once Derrick really settles as primary ballhandler-playmaker on the team (especially if DD is traded at the deadline) and Dejounte is forced to play off ball. Of course, I'd love even more to have the starting SG be Vassell, but let's go baby steps for now...

    Btw, thanks for the reverse jinx.

    Personally I think we will see alot of point guard by committee, white is a better ball handler and decision maker but isn't so far and away better at the role that it defaults to him and he likes bombing catch and shoot threes and is good at it. I see quite a possessions where the set up is the big inbounder jogs the court while Murray brings the ball up at a walk. White crosses the court at the top of the key where the big picks white's defender, then sets again for a possible PnR with Murray's man. Murray has an option to either (you can also do the same with DMDR) to either skip pass onto White for the scrub pick 3 or pick roll pick pop.luka or aldridge pulls their man out of the paint on the other side with their shooting.

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    Personally I think we will see alot of point guard by committee, white is a better ball handler and decision maker but isn't so far and away better at the role that it defaults to him and he likes bombing catch and shoot threes and is good at it. I see quite a possessions where the set up is the big inbounder jogs the court while Murray brings the ball up at a walk. White crosses the court at the top of the key where the big picks white's defender, then sets again for a possible PnR with Murray's man. Murray has an option to either (you can also do the same with DMDR) to either skip pass onto White for the scrub pick 3 or pick roll pick pop.luka or aldridge pulls their man out of the paint on the other side with their shooting.
    Haha, I like the expression, "point guard by committee". If you think about it, it's basically the way the league plays now - no one is truly designated to be the one starting the offense, but rather multiple players are able to bring the ball up, create for others, or themselves as they see fit. Especially modern wings. So it's a step in the right direction for sure - especially since all of our youth are at least average shooters from deep. It's an understated part of our core, and a stark contrast to our current starting lineups, where two non-shooters are starting every single game.

    I don't see Murray handling the ball like he does now, once White comes back, though. I'd have to go over the bubble games tape again, but I recall White being the clear primary handler, with DJ getting more spot-up duties or handling once White sat. At the end of the day, having a hierarchy isn't a bad thing, and I'm glad White looks to be the top dog (and now is paid like it).

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