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    My only concern about White is his durability. He always seems to be playing through an injury or coming back from one. People rightly want Pop to give him more minutes but can his body handle it? Sort of Splitter-esque. Really good when he's in and healthy, but nagging injuries diminish him for long stretches.

    I think most players out there play with some sort of injury. What i dont understand is when a player suffers an injury at the very end of the season and somehow over the off season they do not over come those injuries and are not available to begin the season. I know this was a short off season but the spurs got bounced early and im also referencing nephew and his injury back in 2017.

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    Fans are too obsessed with the label. You would think they weren't rooting for a team who had Manu come off the bench for most of his career. Destroying the 2nd team is one of the main elements that made the Spurs successful in the past. If White gets a lot of minutes and also closes the game out, what does it matter if he starts?
    That team isn’t this team. The dynasty Spurs were never as unbalanced and shooting challenged in their starting lineup. After seeing the bubble team pairing DJ and White in the SL, I’m surprised that YOU aren’t advocating it at the top of your lungs for the pairing.

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    I think most players out there play with some sort of injury. What i dont understand is when a player suffers an injury at the very end of the season and somehow over the off season they do not over come those injuries and are not available to begin the season. I know this was a short off season but the spurs got bounced early and im also referencing nephew and his injury back in 2017.
    Yes, it was an extremely short offseason, and White had SURGERY. I’ll type that again, in case it didn’t register. White had SURGERY.

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    Can't cure Planter F. How improved does it get w surgery? Seems like it's still a problem.

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    That team isn’t this team. The dynasty Spurs were never as unbalanced and shooting challenged in their starting lineup. After seeing the bubble team pairing DJ and White in the SL, I’m surprised that YOU aren’t advocating it at the top of your lungs for the pairing.
    I recognize that. I just see the rotation as completely fluid as the pecking order is constantly shifting because of players getting better or getting worse. I don't see a need to have an "end all, be all" at ude towards White MUST start in order for us to be successful.

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    I recognize that. I just see the rotation as completely fluid as the pecking order is shifting because of players getting better or getting worse. I don't see a need to have an "end all, be all" at ude towards White MUST start in order for us to be successful.
    Yeah, except the only times we’ve looked like a good basketball team in the last 18 months, he was starting.

    Pop doesn’t gravitate towards the fluid rotation thing, either.

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    So does anyone know how long White is going to be out?

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    Yeah, except the only times we’ve looked like a good basketball team in the last 18 months, he was starting.

    Pop doesn’t gravitate towards the fluid rotation thing, either.
    We look like a basketball team when he's on the court because of how impactful he is, not because he's a starter. There's many layers to unpack to this, I just disagree it's set in stone what White's role should be. Again, it's just a label. In my eyes, you achieve the best synergy with your line-ups instead of simply putting out your five best players out there first. I don't mind White starting, in fact, I support it. I just don't have a die on the hill type stance for it.

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    Yes, it was an extremely short offseason, and White had SURGERY. I’ll type that again, in case it didn’t register. White had SURGERY.
    Can you type that one more time i still don’t get it im not as smart as you.

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    Can't cure Planter F. How improved does it get w surgery? Seems like it's still a problem.
    The surgery wasn't for the plantar fasciitis. It was for a dislocated toe. It's anybody's guess how one will affect the other.

    But yes, generally speaking you can't cure plantar fasciitis, you can only treat it and it may or may not go away. It could also pop back up at any time. Timmy struggled with it for probably the last decade of his career.

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    We look like a basketball team when he's on the court because of how impactful he is, not because he's a starter. There's many layers to unpack to this, I just disagree it's set in stone what White's role should be. Again, it's just a label. In my eyes, you achieve the best synergy with your line-ups instead of simply putting out your five best players out there first. I don't mind White starting, in fact, I support it. I just don't have a die on the hill type stance for it.
    The thing is, last year, minus the bubble, our starting lineup dug HUGE holes that our bench couldn’t always get us out of. We need to NOT start as many second quarters down 10-15 points. If White starts, we still have Keldon and Devin to wreak havoc on opposing benches.

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    So does anyone know how long White is going to be out?
    No timeline that I've heard of yet.

    One report I saw said KJ was about 1-2 weeks off and doing 3-on-3 drills, and White was still well behind him and still not doing any contact.

    If I had to guess, maybe 4-6 weeks...but I'm pretty much just pulling that out of my butt.

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    The thing is, last year, minus the bubble, our starting lineup dug HUGE holes that our bench couldn’t always get us out of. We need to NOT start as many second quarters down 10-15 points. If White starts, we still have Keldon and Devin to wreak havoc on opposing benches.
    Well put.

    Spurs used to rely on the starters keeping even with opposing starters, maybe even getting a slight lead. Then the bench would come in and blow things out of the water.

    Last year, the bench spent most of their time just trying to get us even again...at which point the starters would return and lose us the game.

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    When you play as hard as my boy plays theres going to be injuries here and there. Just like Manu. As long as they're not structural it's fine. Rather deal with that than have an "iron man" like that got Brent Forms who would literally get out of the way rather than sacrifice his body to draw a charge.

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    Fans are too obsessed with the label. You would think they weren't rooting for a team who had Manu come off the bench for most of his career. Destroying the 2nd team is one of the main elements that made the Spurs successful in the past. If White gets a lot of minutes and also closes the game out, what does it matter if he starts?
    It matters because of the hole the SL (Murray/LMA/DDR) puts the second unit in. White coming off the bench when the spurs are down double digits vs being compe ive and competent from the start.

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    When you play as hard as my boy plays theres going to be injuries here and there. Just like Manu. As long as they're not structural it's fine. Rather deal with that than have an "iron man" like that got Brent Forms who would literally get out of the way rather than sacrifice his body to draw a charge.
    White impacts WINNING basketball. you can't teach. I see it in Devin and Johnson.

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    White impacts WINNING basketball. you can't teach. I see it in Devin and Johnson.
    All three of them are smart, versatile two way players. If you just want versatile and two way, throw Dejounte on the pile. He’s not a PG, but he has offensive skills, too.

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    It matters because of the hole the SL (Murray/LMA/DDR) puts the second unit in. White coming off the bench when the spurs are down double digits vs being compe ive and competent from the start.
    Y'all are nuts not to think Bryn was not the major reason for that hole last season.

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    Well put.

    Spurs used to rely on the starters keeping even with opposing starters, maybe even getting a slight lead. Then the bench would come in and blow things out of the water.

    Last year, the bench spent most of their time just trying to get us even again...at which point the starters would return and lose us the game.
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    The thing is, last year, minus the bubble, our starting lineup dug HUGE holes that our bench couldn’t always get us out of. We need to NOT start as many second quarters down 10-15 points. If White starts, we still have Keldon and Devin to wreak havoc on opposing benches.
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    Yes, it was an extremely short offseason, and White had SURGERY. I’ll type that again, in case it didn’t register. White had SURGERY.
    Can you type that one more time i still don’t get it im not as smart as you.

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    Y'all are nuts not to think Bryn was not the major reason for that hole last season.
    I mean, he wasn't starting himself was he?

    Not blaming the senile that needed most of the season + a global pandemic to realize he should maybe play Dejounte and Derrick together

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    Can he become the new He Who Shall Not Be Named around here?

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    I mean, he wasn't starting himself was he?

    Not blaming the senile that needed most of the season + a global pandemic to realize he should maybe play Dejounte and Derrick together
    Did I say he wasn't responsible? Maybe stop hunting down every post that doesn't criticize Pop. You don't get paid enough to do that.

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    Did I say he wasn't responsible? Maybe stop hunting down every post that doesn't criticize Pop. You don't get paid enough to do that.
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