The Athletic: Kawhi Leonard ruined the Clippers locker room/culture

[KaiRMD1]

What a ing bag. Maybe uncle isn't the source of his asshattery after all.

I'm actually starting to realize that now

[buttsR4rebounding]

Manu returned after breaking his nose

Manu returned after breaking his arm.

[SpurPadre]

Manu returned after breaking his nose

Manu also played with a torn sac lol. He's too classy to ever call him out, but I'm sure Manu thinks Load Management is the biggest pussy of all-time.

[Ice009]

Clippers with only20 points with 3 minutes left in the half? Yikes!

But yeah if all KL needed was s ches then he should be playing I have seen players play the next game with worse, but he is a pampered pussie

Manu's gone out there with a broken arm, also, didn't Manu get a broken nose against the Mavericks in a playoff game via a Dirk elbow and finish out that game without even a mask? I'm sure I recall him going to the locker room and then coming back out not too long after (I don't think he even took a whole quarter off)?

Right next to the mother of his child. What an asshole

Is this a legit video? And is that really his kid's mom next to him? Maybe she's just as twisted as he is?

[timtonymanu]

Manu's gone out there with a broken arm, also, didn't Manu get a broken nose against the Mavericks in a playoff game via a Dirk elbow and finish out that game without even a mask? I'm sure I recall him going to the locker room and then coming back out not too long after (I don't think he even took a whole quarter off)?

Yep I mentioned that earlier. I still remember how crooked his nose looked but he still played. Nephew would have left the game and missed at least 2 weeks or whatever load management BS he would have done.

Manu and Tony didn't sugarcoat it. , even Tony would come back sooner from more serious looking injuries. They knew Nephew was a fragile pussy.

[Ice009]

Yep I mentioned that earlier. I still remember how crooked his nose looked but he still played. Nephew would have left the game and missed at least 2 weeks or whatever load management BS he would have done.

Manu and Tony didn't sugarcoat it. , even Tony would come back sooner from more serious looking injuries. They knew Nephew was a fragile pussy.

Thanks. I read your post after I posted as I hadn't gotten than far down the thread yet. I am really thinking that Manu had the toughest time with Kawhi sitting out games. I am starting to think Manu was probably beside himself seeing him sit out, and probably wanted to call him out every single day by asking him why the he is not playing.

[timtonymanu]

Thanks. I read you post after I posted as I hadn't gotten than far down the thread yet. I am really thinking that Manu had the toughest time with Kawhi sitting out games. I am starting to think Manu was probably beside himself seeing him sit out, and probably wanted to call him out every single day by asking him why the he is not playing.

Yep and you had Kiwi s saying that Manu and Tony pushed Nephew away from the team. But seeing all the reports now how he acts with the Clippers, you know it was a lot worse in that lockerroom with Nephew than was originally reported.

Rudy especially looks like he can't stand Nephew and all the lockerroom issues he caused.

[Ice009]

Yep and you had Kiwi s saying that Manu and Tony pushed Nephew away from the team. But seeing all the reports now how he acts with the Clippers, you know it was a lot worse in that lockerroom with Nephew than was originally reported.

I wonder if Timvp knows a little about what was going on around in the locker room at the time. I'd love for him to tell us what he has heard, but obviously I don't want him losing credentials. I guess we will never know.

[NameLess Scrub]

It's kind of funny to see K Leonard and L Kennard on the same team.

That's about as close as I will ever get to using Number Two's actual name. He's still an asshole.

I agree. It’s funny

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I broke up with this girl about 15 years ago. To this day she follows me around on social media and goes on angry rants particularly if she sees me talking to a woman.

I know why I made a impression on her but you guys are reminding me of her still worried about Leonard four years later.

Time to let go and move on. He wanted to go somewhere else and that is okay. Season started.

[Seventyniner]

I broke up with this girl about 15 years ago. To this day she follows me around on social media and goes on angry rants particularly if she sees me talking to a woman.

I know why I made a impression on her but you guys are reminding me of her still worried about Leonard four years later.

Time to let go and move on. He wanted to go somewhere else and that is okay. Season started.

I still support putting all Number Two-related stuff into one containment thread. Let whoever wants to talk about him do it there and leave the rest of the board free from it.

[TD 21]

I broke up with this girl about 15 years ago. To this day she follows me around on social media and goes on angry rants particularly if she sees me talking to a woman.

I know why I made a impression on her but you guys are reminding me of her still worried about Leonard four years later.

Time to let go and move on. He wanted to go somewhere else and that is okay. Season started.

It would have been had he handled it like a professional, instead of stealing roughly $18.6M, withholding medical information, hiding cross country and having his sleazebag uncle attempt to destroy the Spurs hard earned reputation with mostly red herrings as to why he wanted out, culminating in them receiving cents on the dollar and being set back probably a generation.

[K...]

I remember 25 years ago there was this guy jordan, best of his day, but cmon let it go, time to move on........Leonard is a top 5 player, he's worthy of discussion

[tonight...you]

It would have been had he handled it like a professional, instead of stealing roughly $18.6M, withholding medical information, hiding cross country and having his sleazebag uncle attempt to destroy the Spurs hard earned reputation with mostly red herrings as to why he wanted out, culminating in them receiving cents on the dollar and being set back probably a generation.

Preach Preachah!

[FuzzyLumpkins]

It would have been had he handled it like a professional, instead of stealing roughly $18.6M, withholding medical information, hiding cross country and having his sleazebag uncle attempt to destroy the Spurs hard earned reputation with mostly red herrings as to why he wanted out, culminating in them receiving cents on the dollar and being set back probably a generation.

Okay, so what is the point of holding on?

[phxspurfan]

Leonard is a top 5 player, he's worthy of discussion

In 2020/2021 (not 2019...)

TIER I

LeBron
Giannis
AD
Durant
Lillard
Harden
Westbrook
Jimmy Butler
...

TIER II

Jokic
Doncic
Ja Morant (?)
Donovan Mitc (?)
Kyrie Irving (?)
Jamal Murray (?)

...
TIER III

Kawhi
Curry
Beal
Wall
Trae Young
Mike Conley
Tatum
Brown
Embiid
Simmons
Zion
D Booker
Karl Towns
SGA
DeRozan
Oladipo
Paul George
BI
Hield
Fox




tbh


He's top 20. Along with Paul George, John Wall, Bradley Beal, etc.


I mean . CJ McCollum has been far better this year so far.

[Spur20]

What’s this list based on? Winners? Lillard...Westbrook are horrible choices for a tier one. Give me Jokic...Doncic any day over those two. If we’re talking empty calorie, stat-padders, you are correct... they belong tier one.

[TD 21]

Okay, so what is the point of holding on?

I get it, it's just tough to think or talk about this team and the state of it in recent years and overlook by far the biggest reason for it. It's the proverbial elephant in the room.

[John B]

I get it, it's just tough to think or talk about this team and the state of it in recent years and overlook by far the biggest reason for it. It's the proverbial elephant in the room.

It's the thought of WHAT IF. Hey, I'm not even over with Scola. Seriously he could've been out ticket to b2b, banging with Dirk, Gasol, Randolph. Scola was the biggest WHAT IF for me.

[TD 21]

It's the thought of WHAT IF. Hey, I'm not even over with Scola. Seriously he could've been out ticket to b2b, banging with Dirk, Gasol, Randolph. Scola was the biggest WHAT IF for me.

If he didn't want out, the Bertans giveaway (because Morris/Carroll were essentially in response to the need for a 3 and D forward) doesn't happen and given the state of the Warriors, they probably win the '19 championship.

But for me, it's not even that. It's the feeling of being cheated out of commensurate value.

[John B]

If he didn't want out, the Bertans giveaway (because Morris/Carroll were essentially in response to the need for a 3 and D forward) doesn't happen and given the state of the Warriors, they probably win the '19 championship.

But for me, it's not even that. It's the feeling of being cheated out of commensurate value.

But FO didn't handle it well also. And I hate that they always do 'the right thing.' I mean they should've known that Demar wouldn't fit the modern NBA?? Or wasn't #2 offered that could've gotten us Doncic? Damn, I would've included any of Murray/White/Lonnie and the Coyote to get that deal in retrospect.

[daslicer]

But FO didn't handle it well also. And I hate that they always do 'the right thing.' I mean they should've known that Demar wouldn't fit the modern NBA?? Or wasn't #2 offered that could've gotten us Doncic? Damn, I would've included any of Murray/White/Lonnie and the Coyote to get that deal in retrospect.

No team was going to give the Spurs a top lottery pick for Kawhi especially once he made it clear that he was not going to resign with any team since he wanted to go to LA. It drives me nuts when people keep believing that the Suns or Kings were going to be stupid enough to trade their top 2 pick for Kawhi who was screaming "I will not play anywhere besides LA."

[exstatic]

But FO didn't handle it well also. And I hate that they always do 'the right thing.' I mean they should've known that Demar wouldn't fit the modern NBA?? Or wasn't #2 offered that could've gotten us Doncic? Damn, I would've included any of Murray/White/Lonnie and the Coyote to get that deal in retrospect.

The Sacto pick, that eventually became Doncic, was nothing more than a rumor, started by some needy Sacto scribe who wanted Kawhi. It’s as much fiction as Ball/Hart/Ingram.

[Sugus]

It's the thought of WHAT IF. Hey, I'm not even over with Scola. Seriously he could've been out ticket to b2b, banging with Dirk, Gasol, Randolph. Scola was the biggest WHAT IF for me.

Man, I'm with you so hard on this one. I watched Scola playing, live, in his prime (I have two sets of sneakers and a Manu shirt () with his autograph on them). Guy was (and surprisingly still kind of is) an absolute beast. Great teammate as well, he could've contributed a lot of things to those Spurs.

[daslicer]

I broke up with this girl about 15 years ago. To this day she follows me around on social media and goes on angry rants particularly if she sees me talking to a woman.

I know why I made a impression on her but you guys are reminding me of her still worried about Leonard four years later.

Time to let go and move on. He wanted to go somewhere else and that is okay. Season started.

I have gotten over it but I understand why other people on here are still upset and will probably never get over it. I think your relationship example is not a good analogy to what Kawhi did. Breakups hurt if you are the one that's been dumped but if you are a mentally healthy person you can bounce back from it within a few months to a year. What Kawhi did is more like some guy who has scammed you out of all of your life savings. A lot of people who have lost it all financially through a scam rarely ever recover and remain bitter for years which I give them a pass for.

A lot spur fans will be bitter for a very long time until the Spurs are a le contender again because that's what they were with Kawhi. Who knows when the Spurs will be a le contender again that could happen in 5 year or it could happen in 30 years. Look at the Bucks it took their fan base close to 50 years before they forgave Kareem for the crap he pulled back in the 70's in forcing a trade to the Lakers. They can forgive now that they have an MVP caliber player in Giannis.