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Perma ban op, for the love of God.
No one wants to watch this play.... you, op
If you like Harden, you don't like basketball, you don't want a ring and you are a disgrace
Harden +White +Johnson + Vassell +Poeltl + Tucker + Gordon +Mills +Pop
Easily a top 4 team in the West. Not to mention that Harden being here would make SA a much more enticing Free agent destination.
Perma ban op, for the love of God.
No one wants to watch this play.... you, op
If you like Harden, you don't like basketball, you don't want a ring and you are a disgrace
Just isn't in their DNA tbh. I also wouldn't trust this FO to not get absolutely bent over in any trade.
But anyway, something like Murray, DeRozan, Johnson, Lyles, three unprotected firsts and two swaps for Harden, Clemons and Tucker is probably the closet thing you'll see. It doesn't seem likely given the rivalry, but from a compensation perspective, it's probably better than the packages floating around right now (at least of the ones that could be done right now).
White, Mills,
Harden, Weatherspoon,
Walker, Vassell
Tucker, Gay
Aldridge, Poeltl
Ignoring that Harden-ball isn't winning ball, it's a very interesting lineup. I'd be very interested to see how it'd do, but I legit wouldn't want them to make this trade.
And a team I don't think would have a very good chance against the Lakers, Clippers, or even Nuggets. If the Spurs still had Kawhi then yeah I'd trade anything else on the roster including picks and swaps for Harden. Or if they had prime Duncan or even a little past his prime Duncan. But Harden and a bunch of nobodies isn't making you a contender.
Come on, don't be so hard on my guy Daffy. His trade proposals might be a bit out there, but that's no reason for personal insults. I also don't think getting Harden necessarily means not winning a ring, we Spurs just don't have the team to make him a champion.
Character issues, chokes in the playoffs, bad with teammates. Also, Rockets would not accept any of those packages. I'm sure they can get much better than that.
Trading an mvp caliber player in conference has always been a likely outcome and there’s plenty of signs Harden would have a great time on the river walk
imagine if demar was the centrepiece of 2 trades for mvps
Anything with Aldridge still left after the trade is not good. The guy is just walking Zombie out there waiting to shoot 3's. He reminds me of guys at the local gym (sometime last year), with people just wants to hurl 3's and not play defense.
Also I don't like Harden and what he's done to the game, him and Westbrook. The NBA rewarding these stat-padding players with MVP is a disgrace.
Maybe Harden will go to the Knicks. That's always been the destination for overpaid players
Let's get this straight...You want the Spurs to shed one of two promising young players in Walker or Murray....PLUS 2 first round picks...plus LMA AND DDR (the main pieces for the trade)...
All for a 1-year rental of Harden (he wouldn't stay in San Antonio) and two broken down players in Tucker and Gordon.
And you seriously think that helps San Antonio in the future? Or is this all for a chance at a one-year playoff run with a bunch of guys who have proven that they can't win in the playoffs?
Oh, and let's not get started about the Spurs culture and what Pop would do with Harden's ty at ude....
Maybe you should get your head examined and come back with a legitimate trade that takes into consideration the foundation the Spurs have built over the last 30+ years.
Don't get why divisions matter tbh, if you want to say to an interstate rival then sure.
Harden is a
Yeah, that's what meant to say
This would be an AMAZING trade. Draymond for this team fits in like a plug. He's only 30.
Murray/ White/ Tre
Lonnie/ Mills/ Q
DeMar/ Vassell
Keldon/ Draymond
Poetl/ Draymond/ Eubanks
Everyone can switch 1-5 except Poetl
Last edited by Dejounte; 12-29-2020 at 06:07 PM.
I mean Johnson clearly wouldn't start over Green and would probably go in the trade, with a pick maybe coming back to SA.
I mean, Green has been out with an indefinite period of time due to an injury and he has an albatross contract that will cause the Warriors an insane amount of tax. They are not getting any value for Green.
I dont think hes going to fetch a lot from a small market, unless some GM is really high on himself and thinks he can keep Harden after his contract ends.
You don't trade away guys who are bad and expect to get guys who are good. You make that trade first and either hope LMA comes around with the help of Harden/White (actually extremely likely), or you move him in a later deal. You have to give Houston things they could use, and DeRozan and Murray and sweetener allow the Rockets to try to compete while they have Wall and Wood locked into deals. Spacing is an issue but
Wall, Murray
Gordon
DeRozan, Johnson
House
Cousins, Wood
and whatever other Houston has probably works pretty well. Maybe they'd also want a Gordon/Gay swap, but I'd want to keep a pick or two swaps at least if that happened.
Green's still not coming off the bench for Johnson. While I like Keldon and all, he's not really going to grade higher than Green on the market without putting up a bigger sample size. Maybe the pick GS sends is the Minny pick, which would essentially make it Green for LMA and Johnson for the pick, and that seems like a framing that should work with a lot of fans.
Not debating who starts over who. Merely saying there's no incentive for the Spurs to include one of their most promising players for a pick in the 2021 draft. It's the Warriors who are trying to find a get out of jail free card with Aldridge on their books, not the other way around. Losing Keldon and starting development over with a year 0 prospect sets the Spurs back.
I don't see how you trade for Draymond and not start him. I agree he could play smallball 5 for stretches. But if Lonnie or Keldon is benched for Draymond you get serious spacing issues in the starting lineup. There would be almost no reliable shooting.
What exactly would the trade be? Including Murray helps the Spurs with spacing in the starting lineup (start White in his place) and lessens the salary burden, but that itself becomes a disincentive for the Warriors.
How about shifting Keldon to SF and Derozan to SG?
lmao that was good .........but we have exactly 0% chance
relax, it's just beginning, Doncic is next.
Yeah, who starts was more of a minor point to my major point: Draymond fits well on this team.
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