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This isn't it.
FAIL stay away from this NBA loser and life loser. Cancer.
This isn't it.
Giving up a laundry list of your best assets for a top 5 player in the NBA that is past 32 years old ( meaning he has a short shelf life) is pretty stupid. Add on the fact that this player has commitment issues and has a strong sense of en lement? Screw this thought.
He doesn't guarantee a championship or the 2nd round of the playoffs. Giving up your best assets for the future for maybe 2 or 3 more peak prime years at best where he guarantees you nothing but a playoff spot is something only short-sighted fans would consider.
The number 1 priority for the Spurs right now is to try to get as much value via trade for the vets that won't be here past this year, while giving Dejounte, Lonnie, Derrick, Keldon, and Devin all the opportunities they can get.
I don’t know if the Spurs will ever do a total rebuild. It has only missed the playoffs 5 times ever? That in itself is a major accomplishment. And how many teams have been mediocre for years or even decades? I just can’t see small market San Antonio keeping the franchise that route. That or the organization is too proud to face mediocrity that long.
Last edited by John B; 12-30-2020 at 10:02 AM.
Getting Harden would be the sequel to Kawhi episode, but without the championship.
The reality is, there are no guarantees, even at the top of the draft. Ask Philly. They were in for FIVE years, and never even got to the Finals with all of their picks. Danny Ainge had a bounty of high picks, same situation.
Now that they’ve flattened the lottery odds, and draw the four top picks, your odds of even getting a high pick for tanking have dropped significantly. In the two drafts since the change, 5 teams have jumped into the collective 8 Top 4 pick spots, knocking out a corresponding number of bad/tanking teams.
Meh he'd make the Spurs a low-end playoff team without having a second star. And the Spurs have nothing close to 2018 Chris Paul which pushed those Rockets over the hump from being a playoff team to a legit contender. If the Spurs had anything like 2018 CP3 of course I'd mortgage the future for a couple of seasons of le contention, but I wouldn't do it for two middling playoff years and then Harden walks.
Because it should be the primary universal goal when trading a superstar and it's been repeatedly confirmed by the top insiders.
I got it and it's obvious, I'm just saying they don't have the piece to get in the game and on top of it, it doesn't help to be in state/conference.
I don’t think Harden would fit on the Spurs. No way this is happening
Unpopular to a lot of people here, I think the Spurs have done a great transition job from the debacle of Kawhi. Last years Beli/Bryn experiment was over. The Spurs have replaced the "old" roster with young athletic cores and waiting on four expiring contracts. I think they will roll with what we have, and see what the FA brings next summer. So any trade for Harden is not happening, imo.
A little aside, for anyone who calls Harden, or Paul George, or anyone else a playoff choker: unless you love the color red and the minus sign, don't look at Demar DeRozan's career playoff on court or on-off court per 100 possessions numbers...
https://www.basketball-reference.com...derozde01.html
At least he is someone that helps maintain a good team atmosphere and looks after the rookies for the most part. No doubt he should not be the #1. Can he be a #3? probably. It's silly to suggest he isn't a good player at all though.
harden has no interest in Sugars or XTC Cabaret
I didn't say that. But he's less good than Harden or PG, and people are quick to label those guys.
If they strip, he will come. Field of Creams reference.
I might be overrating our young guys and Pop's coaching, but I think Harden would do very well here. 2nd round minimum.
Also, you have 3 playoffs runs with Harden under contract, by the second or third one You can atract a couple of difference making free agents, tbh.
Dude, we have DeRozan and Aldridge on our team.
Two, as he has a player option on year 3.
Well, more than enough time for Pop to make a team with a top 5 player a championship contender.
I don't think they'd bottom out completely by moving on from the four vets and playing next season and the season after with their young core.
They can continue to improve as their young players improve while potentially eventually adding a star player in the draft.
I think that is the better route.
I think the young core has some promise but they botched the Kawhi trade. Then they completely undervalued Bertans and then traded him for a player who hardly played and then waived and are still paying.
They also seemed to have waited too long to trade thei vets for assets. The Luka pick also seems likely to be a bad one. They've done okay but they certainly could've done better.
Yes they could’ve done better. I’ve haven’t given up on Luka. He is very skilled and should have better luck than Metu. Bertans was Morris/Knicks. We missed last year but fielded Vassell who fits our need perfectly. Last year we might get Collins or similar. I think we’re in great shape.
Last edited by John B; 12-30-2020 at 04:36 PM.
Agree with all this. Draymond would be a terrible pick up.
Harden is a top 5 points getter, but a career loser. If the goal is get into playoffs again, I think Spurs are close to that on their own. And, at least then, we wouldn’t have to endure the choke job.
Hard pass
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