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    How low have we come as a franchise when we want to keep players simply because they never complained? That's how low the bar is now? Hedo and Richard Jefferson never complained either, and we bashed them into OBLIVION when they were here (rightfully so)...

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    I’m kind of neutral on Demar, I’d love for us to trade him but I think he also gets to much hate lol if any of the youngins played as well as Demar does at times we would think we have the next superstar but because it’s Demar people point at all the negatives he does.

    with that being said.... Trade his ass!

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    If Johnson is a full-time four, the Spurs don't have a reason to not want DeRozan long term.
    Salary.
    DeRozan is a very good NBA player worth a solid paycheck.
    DeRozan is not $27.8M good.

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    guy is a fkn scrub....

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    not a ddr fan and i know thats only 8 games played but u all have to admit that 43% from deep (2.6 attempts per game) is a great result from a guy who was totally afraid to shoot 3s.

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    His willingness to shoot from 3pt land has helped the Spurs and will continue to do so if he keeps shooting the open three. My biggest complaints about Derozan and Aldridge were that they couldn’t play on the court together at the same time and bring success because they demanded the ball a lot, only shot mid-range jumpers, and with their backs to the basket. They have both changed that about their games and I think it shows that it’s been good for the team.

    People complaining about Derozan are just never gonna be satisfied with him no matter what he does. His court vision and willingness to pass to the open man has also helped tremendously because of how the opposing defenses have to collapse on him when he drives to the basket.

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    Lucy always pulls the ball away from Charlie Brown.
    DDR at crunch time is the same.
    He is worth about 1/2 the $ he is making or better yet he makes It on some other team.

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    I'm in the neutral camp on DDR. I'm good with trading him if we can get value and I'm also good with resigning him for 2 years. In either case I agree with Chinook about getting a 4 with size. If DDR goes KJ moves to the 3 and if he stays KJ may move to the bench and play the 3 and 4 off the bench. It would provide depth and grooms KJ for a much bigger role in the future.

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    I thought it was LMA who fits that trade exception from Boston?

    DeMar playing well is win-win to all fans.

    For DeMar haters:
    -He's raising his trade value, we could get good return on a sign and trade or a trade at the deadline
    -He could be raising his value to the point it's above the Spurs' price range if they wished to re-sign him

    For those neutral on DeMar:
    -His unselfish play and newfound capability of shooting 3's will help the team stay compe ive
    -He's raising his trade value, we could get good return on a sign and trade or a trade at the deadline
    -He could be raising his value to the point it's above the Spurs' price range if they wished to re-sign him

    Don't know anyone who actually loves DeMar, but for those people:
    -You get to watch him play well
    Boston's trade exception is for $28.5 million, though that trade wouldn't work because they can't go over $138 million because Boston's hardcapped. It would have to be DeRozan for Nesmith and Langford and, probably, a 2021 first. That or DeRozan for Theis, Langford and a 2021 first.

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    Boston's trade exception is for $28.5 million, though that trade wouldn't work because they can't go over $138 million because Boston's hardcapped. It would have to be DeRozan for Nesmith and Langford and, probably, a 2021 first. That or DeRozan for Theis, Langford and a 2021 first.
    Nesmith+ Langford's salaries don't equal Derozan's though and neither does Theis + Langford's. How will that work?

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    Nesmith+ Langford's salaries don't equal Derozan's though and neither does Theis + Langford's. How will that work?
    TPE

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    The whole thing confuses me... So you can trade DeRozan for the TPE, and Celts trade Nesmith, Langford to the Spurs for nothing separately?

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    Boston's trade exception is for $28.5 million, though that trade wouldn't work because they can't go over $138 million because Boston's hardcapped. It would have to be DeRozan for Nesmith and Langford and, probably, a 2021 first. That or DeRozan for Theis, Langford and a 2021 first.
    The whole thing confuses me... So you can trade DeRozan for the TPE, and Celts trade Nesmith, Langford to the Spurs for nothing separately?
    as long as it does not exceed this limit

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    Saw an interesting trade idea: DeRozan for Gary Harris, Will Barton, and a 2021 first round pick. Spurs would have to include Lyles to offset salary so that they wouldn't go into the tax.

    Barton and Harris haven't been very good this season, and they'd cut into the spurs cap space for next season. Maybe that could make it a three teamer so the Spurs wouldn't have to take back Barton

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    Nesmith+ Langford's salaries don't equal Derozan's though and neither does Theis + Langford's. How will that work?
    DeRozan's contract can be absorbed in the trade exception but Boston can't technically do that deal because they used their mid-level on Tristan Thompson and it hard-capped them. They can't exceed $138 million so that's why Theis+ Langford or Langford and Neismith would need to be included so stay under the hard-cap.

    Spurs Get
    Lanford
    Theis
    2021 1st round pick

    Boston Gets
    DeRozan

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    DeRozan's contract can be absorbed in the trade exception but Boston can't technically do that deal because they used their mid-level on Tristan Thompson and it hard-capped them. They can't exceed $138 million so that's why Theis+ Langford or Langford and Neismith would need to be included so stay under the hard-cap.

    Spurs Get
    Lanford
    Theis
    2021 1st round pick

    Boston Gets
    DeRozan
    I like the trade, except I’d swap Nesmtih for Langford.

    Btw similar formulation should work if BOS wanted LMA instead.

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    The whole thing confuses me... So you can trade DeRozan for the TPE, and Celts trade Nesmith, Langford to the Spurs for nothing separately?
    It would be all in one deal. The way I understand it, it would be DeRozan and Theis, Langford, and a 2021 first. The trade exception would also be applied, allowing for Boston to take back the difference in between salaries.

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    I like the trade, except I’d swap Nesmtih for Langford.

    Btw similar formulation should work if BOS wanted LMA instead.
    I think they really like Nesmith so I doubt they'd want to include him and a 2021 first. I've been thinking about Gay being a good fit, maybe even Mills.

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    Prefer he increase his value to the rest of the league tbh
    That makes 2 of us!! The only value I care about with DeRozan is his trade value.

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    spurs need a volume scorer

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    You don't have to settle for someone that has negative impact just because they have a big name...denver would never take westbrook over Jamal murray even tho westbrook puts up better numbers...sometimes you have to choose role and fit for team over the big name
    denver would take westbrook

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    denver would take westbrook
    Over Jamal Murray? I don't think they would.

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    DeRozan for Beal is all I want

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    While I don't mind this current version of Demar(finally shooting those open threes), I'm skeptical about him being able to keep this up. Contract year players are always a tough gamble. Considering his age, he doesn't really fit long-term. Spurs should look to trade him for assets...either picks or young players.

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    Now that DDR is finally shooting 3s and making many of them, I want him to stay. I still do not trust his late game antics, as he is a turnover machine and forces some shots, but he is playing so much better now. It started in the bubble and has really escalated this season. Even Aldridge is playing great some very good ball this year. He seems to have found his groove with the youngsters. Still, if I had to choose, I would jettison LMA and keep DDR.

    In the next draft my 4 pet cats are

    PF Greg Brown - Texas
    freak athlete
    a ing stud
    has inside and outside game
    makes positive impact on both ends
    is a Longhorn


    PF Isaiah Todd - G League Ignite
    extremely athletic
    has some nice handles
    good passer
    good rim protector
    is a dunking machine, but also has some nice low post moves
    developing his outside shot, but has a good midrange fade away
    a bit of a show off
    not sure about his BB IQ
    19 yrs old

    SG Ron Harper Jr. - Rutgers
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    Blue Collar work ethic
    practices and plays like he has something to prove to the world
    gritty and tough
    gives max effort on both ends of the court
    very coachable
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    has shown great progress and improvement of skill set each year
    mature
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    C Charles Bassey - Western Kentucky
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    good shot blocker and rebounder
    does the dirty work
    sets some nice screens
    still developing his offensive game
    a smooth athlete
    high motor
    20 yrs old

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