NBA: Enough is enough.......... Real NBA > Todays NBA

[lebomb]

The real NBA of the 80's, 90's and early 2000's is vastly better than Todays NBA.

......and here is why:

Todays NBA

Fat PGs that chuck 3's
7'-2" SGs
Centers with 3pt green light
Matadore defense
brush a s arm is a flaggrant foul
120lb. PF's (basically there are no real PF's)
Noone can hit a 2pt shot anymore
Superstars living at the FT all game
8 crossovers bringin ball up, only to turn it over
3pt shots and layups is all teams offense

Clearly the REAL NBA was way, way better and required more talent.

[i'm_still_beta]

The real NBA of the 80's, 90's and early 2000's is vastly better than Todays NBA.

......and here is why:

Todays NBA

Fat PGs that chuck 3's
7'-2" SGs
Centers with 3pt green light
Matadore defense
brush a s arm is a flaggrant foul
120lb. PF's (basically there are no real PF's)
Noone can hit a 2pt shot anymore
Superstars living at the FT all game
3pt shots and layups is all teams offense

Clearly the REAL NBA was way, way better and required more talent.

Yesterday's NBA is more fun to watch but make no mistake about it - Yesterday's NBA plumbers would've been skullf***ed by today's players. Skill beats overrated "physicality". Patrick Ewing would be Roy Hibbert in today's nba. 80's and 90's plumbers would be run out of the f***ing gym

[i'm_still_beta]

The real NBA of the 80's, 90's and early 2000's is vastly better than Todays NBA.

Clearly the REAL NBA was way, way better and required more talent.

Yes. That's why unskilled stiffs and scrubs like Kurt Rambis, Mark Eaton, Charles Oakley were starters. They were talented at being tall, strong and waste of space. Instead of those bums we have talented young studs like Trae Young, Damian Lillard. Centers who can shoot, pass and defend multiple positions and etc.

More talent in 90's and 80's lol. I'm not even talking about international players

[i'm_still_beta]

[lefty]

Well there is alway YouTube if you prefer tbh

But be aware that you will have regrets when you realize you could have been a starter in the 80s/90s NBA

[Robz4000]

Today's players are more athletic and talented in general, but mentally they're softer. Just imagining the NBA allowing hand-checking and harder fouls ala the mid-00s is . Players like Harden and Dominos would an hero by halftime.

[lebomb]

Yes. That's why unskilled stiffs and scrubs like Kurt Rambis, Mark Eaton, Charles Oakley were starters. They were talented at being tall, strong and waste of space. Instead of those bums we have talented young studs like Trae Young, Damian Lillard. Centers who can shoot, pass and defend multiple positions and etc.

More talent in 90's and 80's lol. I'm not even talking about international players

AI
Barkley
Shawn Kemp
Bird
Magic
Penny
D. Robinson would dominate in todays NBA
Stockton
Malone would destroy the PFs or so called PFs now
MJ
Bernard King
Olajuwan
Gary Payton
Clyde Drexler


Stop naming off 6th men homie . These dudes above would mop the floor with half Todays NBA.

[lebomb]

MJ would avg 47pts a game in Todays NBA. With no hand checking, and light as a feather fouls? LMAO

[Dirks_Finale]

This is undeniable, tbh.

MJ would avg 47pts a game in Todays NBA. With no hand checking, and light as a feather fouls? LMAO

[Dirks_Finale]

Saw a mini do entary on DROB posted by lefty. The narrator compared him to Giannis which I had never actually considered, but come to think about it, I think it's a fair comparison. But I'd much rather have David than Giannis, tbh. The guy was a beast on the defensive end and was able to check studs like Shaq.

And people in this forum seem to think guys like Price and Stockton wouldn't be much today. I beg to differ. They make up for the lack in athleticism with grit and wit. And they were lights out from distance which is what matters in today's boring game. Their stats would be inflated today just like Trae Young's stats are inflated.

AI
Barkley
Shawn Kemp
Bird
Magic
Penny
D. Robinson would dominate in todays NBA
Stockton
Malone would destroy the PFs or so called PFs now
MJ
Bernard King
Olajuwan
Gary Payton
Clyde Drexler


Stop naming off 6th men homie . These dudes above would mop the floor with half Todays NBA.

[lefty]

MJ would avg 47pts a game in Todays NBA. With no hand checking, and light as a feather fouls? LMAO

no

If you want to have an idea of what MJ would be like today, look no further than the guy wearing 10 for the Spurs

[lefty]

WTF is this

[Dirks_Finale]

Today's players are more athletic and talented in general, but mentally they're softer. Just imagining the NBA allowing hand-checking and harder fouls ala the mid-00s is . Players like Harden and Dominos would an hero by halftime.

This is also undeniable, tbh.

I think a select few would be fine in the 90's, like Lebron. Built like a truck so he's good. Trae Young would be mop up time, end of bench, tbh.

[Neo.]

The real NBA of the 80's, 90's and early 2000's is vastly better than Todays NBA.

......and here is why:

Todays NBA

Fat PGs that chuck 3's
7'-2" SGs
Centers with 3pt green light
Matadore defense
brush a s arm is a flaggrant foul
120lb. PF's (basically there are no real PF's)
Noone can hit a 2pt shot anymore
Superstars living at the FT all game
8 crossovers bringin ball up, only to turn it over
3pt shots and layups is all teams offense

Clearly the REAL NBA was way, way better and required more talent.

lol utsa
lol mma

your credibility is shot, thus your opinion is shot. sorry.

[daslicer]

no

If you want to have an idea of what MJ would be like today, look no further than the guy wearing 10 for the Spurs

Kawhi actually is the closet to Jordan when it comes to play style. He has the big hands and long arms like Jordan. He also has the same post up game along with an identical fadeaway What Kawhi lacks that Jordan has is Jordan's super athletic ability along with Jordan's quick first step. He also doesn't have Jordan's leadership, high basketball IQ, along with Jordan's great durability.

[i'm_still_beta]

WTF is this

Brutal 80's gladiators who are supossed to destroy LeBron every time he drives to the basket

[i'm_still_beta]

Kawhi actually is the closet to Jordan when it comes to play style. He has the big hands and long arms like Jordan. He also has the same post up game along with an identical fadeaway What Kawhi lacks that Jordan has is Jordan's super athletic ability along with Jordan's quick first step. He also doesn't have Jordan's leadership, high basketball IQ, along with Jordan's great durability.

[daslicer]

I really don't know how you can say Jordan doesn't have a high basketball IQ.

I didn't agree with Jordan's leadership methods but it worked. There are two types of leaders in the NBA from what I have seen on championship teams. You are either in the mold of a Russell,Duncan,Bird,Hakeem, in the sense you are laid back/stoic but know how to bring a team together through camaraderie and leading by example. The other type of leadership is Jordan,Kobe,Draymond in which you lead through being a ruthless dictator and demand the best from your teammates and don't tolerate disrespect.

[i'm_still_beta]

I really don't know how you can say Jordan doesn't have a high basketball IQ.

I didn't agree with Jordan's leadership methods but it worked. There are two types of leaders in the NBA from what I have seen on championship teams. You are either in the mold of a Russell,Duncan,Bird,Hakeem, in the sense you are laid back/stoic but know how to bring a team together through camaraderie and leading by example. The other type of leadership is Jordan,Kobe,Draymond in which you lead through being a ruthless dictator and demand the best from your teammates and don't tolerate disrespect.

Jordan's leadership methods work with stacked team's like 90's Bulls, I agree.

If passing out of double teams (something he wasn't smart enough to do in the 80's) and gambling defense (that payed off more often than not because he was such a great athlete) is high basketball iq, then I agree once again.

I don't say that Jordan is dumb. No. But he isn't smart either. He's average. Sports fans tend to exaggerate intellectual abilities of their heroes. Some guy on RealGm wrote that LeBron is one of the brightest people he had ever seen and that LeBron would be very succesful at any field he'd have chosen (I hope it was trolling). Imagine LeBron concentrating on coding, figure skating or nuclear bombs. He would be the best at that (no).

Jordan never seemed to have high basketball iq, at least in my eyes. He was just extremely athletic and skilled.

[lefty]

Jordan was an overrated defender, as mentioned in the post above he gambled often on steals and offensively he took a lot of bad shots, good thing he was guarded by smaller part time janitors and MTV rap rejects

Pippen and Phil brought the basketball IQ

[ambchang]

I really don't know how you can say Jordan doesn't have a high basketball IQ.

I didn't agree with Jordan's leadership methods but it worked. There are two types of leaders in the NBA from what I have seen on championship teams. You are either in the mold of a Russell,Duncan,Bird,Hakeem, in the sense you are laid back/stoic but know how to bring a team together through camaraderie and leading by example. The other type of leadership is Jordan,Kobe,Draymond in which you lead through being a ruthless dictator and demand the best from your teammates and don't tolerate disrespect.

Bird was known as one of the biggest assholes around.

Hakeem led his team by forcing trades.

[lebomb]

Today’s NBA players shoot a higher percentage 3 pt shot than they do a 2pt shot. Not counting Undefended layups that they make constantly.

[daslicer]

Bird was known as one of the biggest assholes around.

Hakeem led his team by forcing trades.

Larry was an asshole towards his opponents but not his teammates. Robert Parish confirmed this in an interview he had with his former teammate Cedric Maxwell. Parish said that Bird was never an ass hole in practice or barked at his teammates like Jordan did. Parish stated that Bird would leave you alone when you were playing bad.

Hakeem was a terrible teammate up until he found Islam so you are right about that. I should have been clear and said when Hakeem matured he became a great leader which is correct.

[daslicer]

Jordan's leadership methods work with stacked team's like 90's Bulls, I agree.

If passing out of double teams (something he wasn't smart enough to do in the 80's) and gambling defense (that payed off more often than not because he was such a great athlete) is high basketball iq, then I agree once again.

I don't say that Jordan is dumb. No. But he isn't smart either. He's average. Sports fans tend to exaggerate intellectual abilities of their heroes. Some guy on RealGm wrote that LeBron is one of the brightest people he had ever seen and that LeBron would be very succesful at any field he'd have chosen (I hope it was trolling). Imagine LeBron concentrating on coding, figure skating or nuclear bombs. He would be the best at that (no).

Jordan never seemed to have high basketball iq, at least in my eyes. He was just extremely athletic and skilled.

1.Jordan's basketball IQ was pretty good considering he was able to play off the ball while Pippen ran the offense. Not many superstars can play off the ball and know what spots to get to the way Jordan was able to operate in the triangle . Recently I would say Curry is the only guy I have seen who was a superstar that was good at playing off the ball. I guess you could say the same about Durant when he played with the Warriors. Jordan was also good at playing angles along with being an above average play maker.

2. Obviously outside of basketball Jordan and Lebron are not geniuses. I would never say Jordan has an above average IQ outside of basketball. We are talking about basketball not whether these guys can solve algebraic equations. TBH I think both Lebron and MJ would be working at Walmart or be in jail if it wasn't for basketball.

[DAF86]

Kawhi actually is the closet to Jordan when it comes to play style. He has the big hands and long arms like Jordan. He also has the same post up game along with an identical fadeaway What Kawhi lacks that Jordan has is Jordan's super athletic ability along with Jordan's quick first step. He also doesn't have Jordan's leadership, high basketball IQ, along with Jordan's great durability.

Jordan doesn't have Kawhi's 3pt shooting, and he's considerably shorter. Not in height, but in length.