The Spurs' youth might not be as good as perceived by some homers here, but they sure as are better than perceived by the rest of the league and fanbases, tbh. The Spurs have made rotation players of 5 straight middle to late first round picks. I don't know if that has ever been done before by a team, tbh.
Nothing he said is wrong, but it didn't warrant a thread or trying to "lower" people's exceptions or excitement.
Seems like his usual M.O. of trying to negatively hedge his bets so he can be "right" on a message board.
None of the kids may reach their perceived ceiling, a few of which were way, way too high based on limited playing time, but they've shown more in 10 games than all of last year (minus Samanic & Poeltl), IMO.
Probably because you’re always ing
Has he ever made a positive or optimistic post in his time on ST?
Sam was the combo-breaker. It was
Murray --> White --> Walker -->XXXXXXX
Johnson --> Vassell
I think some of y'all are sniffing your own farts and somehow think we have a bunch of #1 picks on our hands. The development of these players has been fantastic. The stat production is shaky at times, maybe, but what's happening is that they're learning how to dig down and win games.
Johnson still a first round pick on that year. So, 5 straight years of middle-late rotation players.
Yeah one time he called them gutless worms
If only it was just him, and not like a quarter of the regular posters on here...
Seriously, nobody cares that you think the Spurs are going to lose this or that game. Even worse when they quote themselves after the game's over, like there wasn't a 50/50 chance of either outcome literally every single game
Idk if you saw it in the game thread, Daffy, but I'm officially boarding the Marfan Demigod bandwagon. Guy has a lot of potential, and his weight/body issues were overblown by many, me included, without taking into consideration that he'll be playing in by far the softest era of NBA basketball ever. He's got future, I'd say his floor is a shooting roleplayer that's got to be hidden on defense, with the ceiling obviously being a do-it-all offensive unicorn powerhouse. Good
I do agree the early results look encouraging. The jury's still out as to whether his body develops enough to take advantage of his skills or if his skills develop enough to where the rest of the league has to adjust to his body. But he's not looking like a bust. Between this and how Jerami Grant has been going off, DAF has to feel great about his off-season predictions at this point of the season.Idk if you saw it in the game thread, Daffy, but I'm officially boarding the Marfan Demigod bandwagon. Guy has a lot of potential, and his weight/body issues were overblown by many, me included, without taking into consideration that he'll be playing in by far the softest era of NBA basketball ever. He's got future, I'd say his floor is a shooting roleplayer that's got to be hidden on defense, with the ceiling obviously being a do-it-all offensive unicorn powerhouse. Good
And that was during the Tim, Tony & Manu Era and they were championship contenders.
No wonder he's making pointless threads trying to temper other people's excitement or expectations, right now.
Walker, Dejounte, Keldon, they've shown enough so far this season to me, all three of them got really good potential to turn into something.
White, enough said.
Vassell's defensive potential is amazing, he's gonna be a very good role player at the very least.
Very disappointed with Jakob, wtf happened to him, cant defend, cant finish, cant make free throws.
Who the are y'all talking about?!Idk if you saw it in the game thread, Daffy, but I'm officially boarding the Marfan Demigod bandwagon. Guy has a lot of potential, and his weight/body issues were overblown by many, me included, without taking into consideration that he'll be playing in by far the softest era of NBA basketball ever. He's got future, I'd say his floor is a shooting roleplayer that's got to be hidden on defense, with the ceiling obviously being a do-it-all offensive unicorn powerhouse. Good
Yeah, I've been watching some Thunder games. Even when he couldn't hit a ing shot, he still looked good, tbh.Idk if you saw it in the game thread, Daffy, but I'm officially boarding the Marfan Demigod bandwagon. Guy has a lot of potential, and his weight/body issues were overblown by many, me included, without taking into consideration that he'll be playing in by far the softest era of NBA basketball ever. He's got future, I'd say his floor is a shooting roleplayer that's got to be hidden on defense, with the ceiling obviously being a do-it-all offensive unicorn powerhouse. Good
Poke/Pokusevski from OKC.
The Spurs should just hand me a FO job, imho.
He looks like he could be a unique weapon on offense, but unless he gains a lot of muscle then he'll remain a net negative on defense.
They were hiding his skinny ass on Patty and DeJounte while Pop made a point to hunt him on defense.
And he has an abnormally big head and long neck. Maybe it'll be less noticeable once he add some muscles and pounds to his frame.
TD 21 hasn’t been as good a poster as perceived
TD 21 positives: incomplete
TD 21 negatives: whining without substance. Unrealistic
This is Lonnies first real year of playing and he’s doing a damn good job at it. Expecting great all the time from a guy who has never really played before is dumb. Lonnie has been waaay better than any of us could have realistically asked for. KJ has played like 18 games and you are already ting on his drives? It takes game practice to get those. He’s been robbed of about 20 free throws this year bc refs have no idea who tf he is. Once he gets seasoned and Pop reminds refs who KJ is every game, expect his game to transform even more.
DJ has outperformed his contract so far. Dude has been balling this year. He has a strong case for MPOY. He can get better at stuff of course, but at this point it’s about balance and reps. The more reps he gets than the more balance he will get both offensively and defensively (where he has recovers a lot).
Poetl sucks. He just plain sucks. He got paid and doesn’t give a and is soft. That’s the only one I agree with you on. Dude can’t handle a starters role or minutes. Reference the Poetl to China thread to see my take on him.
He's actually posting better metrics on defense than on offense so far. He's not a one on one stopper but he's a defensive playmaker. He gets rebounds, steals and blocks in bunches. His perimeter defense has also been better than anticipated so far. He can switch and stay in front of rivals as good as most guys.
The rare time I agree with every single part of your comment. Good , my guy. People have way too high of expectations on this roster.... 80% of posters were calling for a tank and saying the roster was coming into the season, now they're 4-1 on a road trip and people still criticize the youngings? Come on... Also failing to understand that you don't just draft experienced players. You have to let them make mistakes, lose games in painful manner, so they can learn and get better. There's been a lot of learning opportunities this season, and the guys seem to be taking them and improving the best that they can. What more can we even ask for? Watching the Spurs this season has not felt like a chore at any point, even in the losses, tbh. I haven't rage quit a single time, unlike last season with Beli-Forbes-Patty closing lineups.
I'm dandy, but clearly some posters just won't ever be pleased.
E: Also, MPOY? Must be a new trophy I'm not aware of
I'll have a go at a pessimistic take since this seems the thread for it.
Spurs are bottom 10 in FG%, bottom 10 in 3PA and bottom 5 in FTA. They barely pass the ball in offensive possessions or have any kind of structure both offensively and defensively. On top of that none of the young players has an even average PER ( I think Murray might have juuust cracked it after last night ) and their advanced stats generally look quite bad.
Not sure if this is good or bad tbh. Is it a team that's getting results while not being 100% and having injured players, or a terrible team that's had some luck?
Y’all acting like we’ve had four top 5 picks. The youth is doing a good
Its still early in the season and the young'in development era is still work-in-progress. I thought White was the most complete of the lot and he could have threatened a place in borderline All-star category, but unfortunately he has been injured. He was the only young'in who was net positive on both defensive and offensive RAPTOR (538) and RPM last year apart from Poeltl (who was marginally a plus-plus). And he made a leap during the Bubble by becoming a fearless long range shooter. Here's hoping he comes out of his toe issues and gets back to where he left off in the Bubble.
Murray & Walker have both definitely improved - Murray on offense - finishing (a definite leap), jump shot accuracy and being careful with the ball. Walker is somewhat more consistent this season than the previous one.
Johnson is still practically a rookie in the NBA while Vassell is a newbie. Miles to go before we can actually evaluate them for "greatness to come".
If this lot makes it to the playoffs and the Spurs can snag someone like John Collins next year, it will be an even better project to have. Lets see.
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