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    Miami fans can look back at last year and get excited about something. Our fans? They been counting the hours until Poops calls it quits and we step down from this threadmil of being good enough to whiff on good picks while sucking enough not to be contenders. Literally the worst place to be in this league, with the sole exception of Dan Gilbert being the owner of your team.

    lmao @ "at best, it's hard to know"... tbh, you should ask the mods to change your name to "Bad takes" and hopefully never post again after that.
    "Miami fans can look back at last year"

    Ignores what he said 10 minutes ago

    Looks at things in a vacuum only

    You're shortsighted as . Go back to not posting as much or better yet, go back to your other alts

    This mother er got backed into a corner with his nonsensical points

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    This season is a win win tbh. Win and make the playoffs. Lose and get a nice pick!




    that's how it works for almost every team, every season

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    memphis raped

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    Clearly ours... we're 11-10 and have a ceiling of first round fodder, which means a good but not great pick.

    And unlike Miami, we've been dog for 3+ seasons now, we needed to start tanking like yesterday.
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    "Miami fans can look back at last year"

    Ignores what he said 10 minutes ago
    What did I ignore? You said yourself Miami reached the ECF and I said at least their fans can look back to that.

    Spursfan would feel glorious if this team could reach the WCF... it can't.


    Looks at things in a vacuum only

    You're shortsighted as . Go back to not posting as much or better yet, go back to your other alts
    lmao 4 years of suckitude = looking at things in a vacuum... this is what I'm talking about with the bad takes, tbh

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    What did I ignore? You said yourself Miami reached the ECF and I said at least their fans can look back to that.

    Spursfan would feel glorious if this team could reach the WCF... it can't.




    lmao 4 years of suckitude = looking at things in a vacuum... this is what I'm talking about with the bad takes, tbh
    You use the "four years of suckitude" line so readily for the Spurs, yet easily drop it and use a double standard when it comes to the seasons before the Heat made it to the ECF. This is why I said you look at things in a vacuum. No logic being used here. It's even worse than just a bad take by you, it's just a stupid one.

    Recency bias is a uva drug.

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    You use the "four years of suckitude" line so readily for the Spurs, yet easily drop it and use a double standard when it comes to the seasons before the Heat made it to the ECF. This is why I said you look at things in a vacuum. No logic being used here. It's even worse than just a bad take by you, it's just a stupid one.
    There's no double standard, and it's completely logical.

    This is a sport where only winning matters. If you're not winning at a good clip, you don't have a shot at contention. If you don't have a shot a contention, you better be losing and losing big to reload via the lottery, because no 'star' is coming to this team out of their own volition. Especially not with this crew.

    Again, being good enough to miss on great picks and bad enough not to be in contention is the worst place to be in this league. I don't see you disputing this at all, and that's exactly what these Spurs have been doing since nephew left the building.

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    There's no double standard, and it's completely logical.

    This is a sport where only winning matters. If you're not winning at a good clip, you don't have a shot at contention. If you don't have a shot a contention, you better be losing and losing big to reload via the lottery, because no 'star' is coming to this team out of their own volition. Especially not with this crew.

    Again, being good enough to miss on great picks and bad enough not to be in contention is the worst place to be in this league. I don't see you disputing this at all, and that's exactly what these Spurs have been doing since nephew left the building.
    You're going off on a serious tangent from where this conversation (about perspective) began.

    To put it simply, you believe the Heat has had multiple successful years than the Spurs. I dismantled that lie by pointing out that the years before last were anything but successful.

    Then you moved goal posts by saying that, "well, their fans are happy about last year".

    Simply head over to the Heat forum and see how "happy" they are because they made the Finals last season.

    And now, you're going off on criticizing team construction which is a whole different discussion. I'm quite happy about our young core compared to the Heat. Yes, they're better than the Heat's young core. No, they're not on the level of Adebayo or Jimmy yet. But I feel good about one of them (if not two) getting there. And there's the biggest offseason in Spurs history coming up.

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    Dejounte is the worst poster around these days.

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    You're going off on a serious tangent from where this conversation (about perspective) began.

    To put it simply, you believe the Heat has had multiple successful years than the Spurs. I dismantled that lie by pointing out that the years before last were anything but successful.

    Then you moved goal posts by saying that, "well, their fans are happy about last year".

    Simply head over to the Heat forum and see how "happy" they are because they made the Finals last season.

    And now, you're going off on criticizing team construction which is a whole different discussion. I'm quite happy about our young core compared to the Heat. Yes, they're better than the Heat's young core. No, they're not on the level of Adebayo or Jimmy yet. But I feel good about one of them (if not two) getting there. And there's the biggest offseason in Spurs history coming up.
    Spurs are not going to get any hot prospects through FA. They will probably get some old vets and maybe a good role player or two.

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    You're going off on a serious tangent from where this conversation (about perspective) began.

    To put it simply, you believe the Heat has had multiple successful years than the Spurs. I dismantled that lie by pointing out that the years before last were anything but successful.

    Then you moved goal posts by saying that, "well, their fans are happy about last year".

    Simply head over to the Heat forum and see how "happy" they are because they made the Finals last season.

    And now, you're going off on criticizing team construction which is a whole different discussion. I'm quite happy about our young core compared to the Heat. Yes, they're better than the Heat's young core. No, they're not on the level of Adebayo or Jimmy yet. But I feel good about one of them (if not two) getting there. And there's the biggest offseason in Spurs history coming up.

    But you omit that the Heat picked #10 in '15, #14 in '17 and #13 in '19... so, they really sucked because they ended up landing players like Adebayo who is a 20/10 guy for them today.

    The Spurs? Last year it's the first time they picked in the top 15 since Timmy was drafted in '97. So that's exactly what I'm talking about.

    I'm not moving goalposts. You brought up Miami, not me. I do know Spursfan would be thoroughly happy to make the WCF, because that gives your some amount of hope you're contending. Zero chance of happening with this team, period.

    I like the Spurs youth too (most of them anyways), and I won't throw them under the bus, but the majority of the time we're wasting minutes on losers like Carmelo Aldrige or completely over the hill guys like Patty.

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    Dejounte is the worst poster around these days.
    Only comes out of his s after losses

    Doesn't even watch the games

    Block me then, ya loser.

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    But you omit that the Heat picked #10 in '15, #14 in '17 and #13 in '19... so, they really sucked because they ended up landing players like Adebayo who is a 20/10 guy for them today.

    The Spurs? Last year it's the first time they picked in the top 15 since Timmy was drafted in '97. So that's exactly what I'm talking about.

    I'm not moving goalposts. You brought up Miami, not me. I do know Spursfan would be thoroughly happy to make the WCF, because that gives your some amount of hope you're contending. Zero chance of happening with this team, period.

    I like the Spurs youth too (most of them anyways), and I won't throw them under the bus, but the majority of the time we're wasting minutes on losers like Carmelo Aldrige or completely over the hill guys like Patty.
    Did you really go six years back to try to prove a point? Back during a time when our future in 2015 looked a lot ing brighter than the Heat ANY YEAR including last year post-big 3? Read what you just posted. You're conveniently ignoring context in a lot of these points you're trying to make. As if at any point the Spurs can just decide to tank and magically land a franchise player, even during years when they were actual contenders. Laughing my ing ass off that you chose 2015 of all years to try to prove a point. Nice job pulling that one out of your ass.


    "Gives you hope you're contending"?
    The Heat fans have hope right now that they're contending?

    Maybe during the offseason. Oh well, fun while that lasted...

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    Did you really go six years back to try to prove a point? Back during a time when our future in 2015 looked a lot ing brighter than the Heat ANY YEAR including last year post-big 3? Read what you just posted. You're conveniently ignoring context in a lot of these points you're trying to make. As if at any point the Spurs can just decide to tank and magically land a franchise player, even during years when they were actual contenders. Laughing my ing ass off that you chose 2015 of all years to try to prove a point. Nice job pulling that one out of your ass.


    "Gives you hope you're contending"?
    The Heat fans have hope right now that they're contending?

    Maybe during the offseason. Oh well, fun while that lasted...
    lmao skip '15 and take '17 and '19 then, you're nitpicking but the point is the same. There are ways to suck. Miami at least got something in return for sucking properly, not this half-assed we've been doing as a team for 4 years.

    I'm not a Heat fan, so I don't know/care how they feel, but if my team was in the WCF last year, I would feel a lot better about the team prospects than if we're perennially in the 8-11 place and going nowhere season after season. You know why, I already explained it to you twice ITT and you haven't disputed this at all.

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    Even if the Spurs play .500 ball, they clearly dont have THAT GUY! we cant have abunch of 15 million dollar players. spurs need to figure out how to get one of those elite
    talents! its time for the spurs to decide a way to go, vets or the young guys and let the chips fall where they may. you cant always gamble and draft mid to late first round and
    hope for a star, evenrually you have to get into that top 10 and roll the dice there! just so happens the 21 draft has those kind of talents, you have to take advantage even if it
    goes against what you may believe in...GSG

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    Just get me players that want to compete without having to be pushed! That’s all.

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    Even if the Spurs play .500 ball, they clearly dont have THAT GUY! we cant have abunch of 15 million dollar players. spurs need to figure out how to get one of those elite
    talents! its time for the spurs to decide a way to go, vets or the young guys and let the chips fall where they may. you cant always gamble and draft mid to late first round and
    hope for a star, evenrually you have to get into that top 10 and roll the dice there! just so happens the 21 draft has those kind of talents, you have to take advantage even if it
    goes against what you may believe in...GSG
    You can turn those 15 mil guys into something. Look what Heat did. They someone got Butler for the max when they were over the cap.

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    lmao skip '15 and take '17 and '19 then, you're nitpicking but the point is the same. There are ways to suck. Miami at least got something in return for sucking properly, not this half-assed we've been doing as a team for 4 years.

    I'm not a Heat fan, so I don't know/care how they feel, but if my team was in the WCF last year, I would feel a lot better about the team prospects than if we're perennially in the 8-11 place and going nowhere season after season. You know why, I already explained it to you twice ITT and you haven't disputed this at all.
    How did the Heat suck better than we are? I am confused here.

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    How did the Heat suck better than we are? I am confused here.
    They tanked and got a few relatively good picks. We didn't, and we have relatively nothing to show for it.

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    They tanked and got a few relatively good picks. We didn't, and we have relatively nothing to show for it.
    Adebayo and Herro are pick 14 and 13. Spurs drafted 11 this season.

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    I don't think they'll tank, even if they move vets like Gay, DDR , and/ or Mills. Funny thing is, there a bunch of teams hovering around .500.

    If they move one of those guys then they'll get worse, at least somewhat which could cost them several wins but improve their draft position even if they don't outright tank.

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    Adebayo and Herro are pick 14 and 13. Spurs drafted 11 this season.
    That's the thing this idiot doesn't understand. The Heat hardly tanked. Then he tries to select years from the Spurs where it wasn't even plausible for them to tank. Absolutely no logic is being used. Just nonsense from a whiny fan.

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    I don't think they'll tank, even if they move vets like Gay, DDR , and/ or Mills. Funny thing is, there a bunch of teams hovering around .500.

    If they move one of those guys then they'll get worse, at least somewhat which could cost them several wins but improve their draft position even if they don't outright tank.
    Disagree, getting rid of Mills or Gay are addition by subtraction moves in the mold of letting Forbes go. Those guys are blackholes on offense and awful on defense. Their points come in bunches but more often than not they disappear.

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    I don't think they'll tank, even if they move vets like Gay, DDR , and/ or Mills. Funny thing is, there a bunch of teams hovering around .500.

    If they move one of those guys then they'll get worse, at least somewhat which could cost them several wins but improve their draft position even if they don't outright tank.
    Also, Vassell would almost certainly swallow those minutes which can only be a positive.

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    It doesn't help that Gorgui Dieng always has our number. Idk what it is. Obviously he works hard but objectively he's a career backup center...

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