NBA Trade Deadline: 2020-21 Season

[tbdog]

Not sure Miami wants any part of Aldridge, contrary to reports.
Unless he has slimmed down and committed himself physically, LMA doesn’t seem to meet Miami’s stringent conditioning itinerary.

https://heatnation.com/team-news/mia...elves-10-days/

LMA isn't out of shape. He looks fairly lean.

[cd98]

I don’t see anything on the Heat roster that they would give up to the Spurs that the Spurs would want. It’s more than just marching salary. It’s what incentive do the Spurs have to trade for people that all have another year on their contract when they can shed salary just by keeping LMA. And they can buy him out at the buy out deadline if they want to do him a solid. Miami has to give up something to get any players. I see the Spurs keeping all players. It looks like they’ll make the playoffs. Why trade anyone?

[tbdog]

I don’t see anything on the Heat roster that they would give up to the Spurs that the Spurs would want. It’s more than just marching salary. It’s what incentive do the Spurs have to trade for people that all have another year on their contract when they can shed salary just by keeping LMA. And they can buy him out at the buy out deadline if they want to do him a solid. Miami has to give up something to get any players. I see the Spurs keeping all players. It looks like they’ll make the playoffs. Why trade anyone?

The only deal I can think of is Olynyk, Iggy, Leonard and Robinson for Gay and LMA. But eating Leonard's and Iggy contract for two years sucks. So perhaps moving Iggy to Dallas for James Johnson is an option. As for Leonard ��#♂️

[TD 21]

The Heat aren't trading Robinson for Aldridge. The only expendable, notable young player they have is Nunn. Obviously, he doesn't make sense for the Spurs, so bringing in a third team and getting something that does (earlyish 2nd or commensurate youngish player is probably his value) is how this could make theoretical sense.

Realistically, the Spurs aren't doing that though (or anything) unless Aldridge requests a trade.

Some of these takes, while typical, are simultaneously astonishing. Why would the Magic or Kings have interest in Aldridge (to play a position he hasn't been able to in years, no less), why would the Magic trade Vucevic for no notable Spurs youth/picks and why would the Kings feel compelled to trade Barnes? None of this makes sense.

[tbdog]

The Heat aren't trading Robinson for Aldridge. The only expendable, notable young player they have is Nunn. Obviously, he doesn't make sense for the Spurs, so bringing in a third team and getting something that does (earlyish 2nd or commensurate youngish player is probably his value) is how this could make theoretical sense.

Realistically, the Spurs aren't doing that though (or anything) unless Aldridge requests a trade.

Some of these takes, while typical, are simultaneously astonishing. Why would the Magic or Kings have interest in Aldridge (to play a position he hasn't been able to in years, no less), why would the Magic trade Vucevic for no notable Spurs youth/picks and why would the Kings feel compelled to trade Barnes? None of this makes sense.

Heat are in win now mode. Under my proposed deal they'll get gay and LMA, and lose Robinson as their only important piece. That would secure them with a great second unit. I agree with Kings and Magic. It's not happening.

[Mr. Body]

Heat are in win now mode. Under my proposed deal they'll get gay and LMA, and lose Robinson as their only important piece. That would secure them with a great second unit. I agree with Kings and Magic. It's not happening.

Miami is not in win now mode.

[Teamduncan21]

We look more win now than miami. Or 80 percent of eastern teams

[Mr. Body]

We look more win now than miami. Or 80 percent of eastern teams

No, we're not either. Win now has a specific meaning.

[Dejounte]

No, we're not either. Win now has a specific meaning.

A team with Jimmy Butler and has tasted the NBA Finals isn't win now?

[venitian navigator]

Butler 31, Dragic 34, Iguodala 37,Bradley over 30 too... And olinyk 29. Win now mode... In a situation like this I think someone like Achiuwa could be considered, in the Heat s wiew, expendable for veterans like Gay and LMA... And the only decent offer SA could consider.

[Mr. Body]

A team with Jimmy Butler and has tasted the NBA Finals isn't win now?

No. Do you know what 'win now' means in this context?

[Dejounte]

No. Do you know what 'win now' means in this context?

No. Go ahead, please explain.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

I mean that's about what he's making now. Maintaining that salary several years into his 30s seems like a reasonable bet. DDR receiving a fourth year seems unlikely, at that rate, given that he'll be 35 then.

Teams, and the rest of the league as a whole, seem to undervalue him. I don't think teams are going to be lining up to sign him to, say, a four year, $120 million dollar deal like Hayward, even though Hayward was coming off several down years with bad injury luck.

I don't even see the Spurs paying him around $27 million per for the next three seasons when they have a bunch of promising guards and wings that can help to replace his production with more minutes and usage.

I can see Toronto, Chicago and even Charlotte or Knicks giving him a Hayward type deal.

[cd021]

The only deal I can think of is Olynyk, Iggy, Leonard and Robinson for Gay and LMA. But eating Leonard's and Iggy contract for two years sucks. So perhaps moving Iggy to Dallas for James Johnson is an option. As for Leonard 🤷#♂️

Both Iggy and Leonard are team options for next season, so its a non-issue. Spurs could keep Iggy and look to trade him ahead of the draft to a team looking to save salary, in exchange for a pick. The other team could then decline the contract--at least I believe that's possible. Otherwise the Spurs could just decline their team options prior to FA

Compare those players to the FA agent class next year and the actual possibility of a FA coming here, would the Spurs be better off making some of these deals you mentioned?

Aldridge and Gay for Iggy, Leonard, Olynyk a protected future first or a 2027 second + another asset.


-Would definitely do. Get a future first (assuming that Miami can trade one, which I think is technically possible) to move on from Gay and Aldridge who are on expirings is a win and probably wouldn't hurt the trajectory of this team this season. Iggy and Leonard can be waived and Olynyk could actually be an interesting piece in the front court.

Aldridge for Leonard, Olynyk, 2027 Miami 2nd


Not good return but getting a future asset for Aldridge is better than nothing and doesn't affect the Spurs cap situation going forward. Plus it clears the for Poeltl as the fulltime starter.

Gay for Harkless, Leonard, 2027 Miami 2nd

Meh, probably not.

No they aren't. Plus, I wouldn't want to bail Riley out of Iggy's contract. He made his bed with that one, he can stay in it.

I think he Riley was fairly smart regarding Iggy's extension. He could pick up Iggy's final year option and then use his $15 million salary to help Miami swing a big trade. Otherwise Riley could just decline the team option to Iggy and Leonard, Dragic and Bradley and use cap space

I always felt a 3/77 deal was fair, which is what LMA got. But the cap went up since then, so it's closer to 90.

I don't think team's are using the increase of the cap to necessarily figure into how they value a player--at least directly. I could see a team offering him 3 years, $80 million and if another team isn't offering more, then that's his value.

It doesn't matter that he'd be making roughly the same salary annually as the back-end of the contract of a contract that he signed like 5 years ago if teams aren't willing to offer him more and he can play offers off one another.

[rankingtear]

The Miami Heat owe their 2021 first to Oklahoma City and their 2023 first with three years of protections to the Thunder as well. Because of the Stepien rule and an uncertainty of when those picks can convey, the Heat also can't currently trade a first-rounder.

https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/30743307/the-reasons-why-half-nba-trade-their-first-round-pick-right-now

[JADG79]

Nobody wants LMA unless they need to get rid of a bad or long contract to have some cap next year is a defense liability.

Some examples
- Horford
- Drummond (This is an exception)
- Love
- Griffin

Unless SAS gets a player who makes us a contender now or in the future, there's no way Aldridge can be traded.


If LMA accept a bench role and Poeltl continue to play well we could make the playoff and have some Cap next year.

[exstatic]

Iguodala snaked his Denver team in the playoffs a few years back, and then, not surprisingly, signed with the Warriors a few weeks later. He was allegedly tipping the Denver plays to the Warriors. Forget the fact that he’s ing done, I don’t want any of that in our locker room.

[Teamduncan21]

No, we're not either. Win now has a specific meaning.

We are not. Just looks more win now than heat. They are not doing it properly. They might even miss playoff. In east.

[cd021]

I can see Toronto, Chicago and even Charlotte or Knicks giving him a Hayward type deal.

Charlotte has only around $22 million in cap space, Chicago could but would they? Knicks definitely could but they are likely going to have a good pick so they might draft a player at DeMar's position.

Toronto is interesting, they might as well, with Giannis re-signing and them not being a destination. Probably not nearly as much as Hayward but similar money to what he's making now but over three years to keep their options open.

[cd021]

The Miami Heat owe their 2021 first to Oklahoma City and their 2023 first with three years of protections to the Thunder as well. Because of the Stepien rule and an uncertainty of when those picks can convey, the Heat also can't currently trade a first-rounder.

https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/30743307/the-reasons-why-half-nba-trade-their-first-round-pick-right-now

Good find. So Miami's only pick asset is the 2027 2nd round pick.

[Dejounte]

What the are the Thunder going to do with all those picks?

[cd021]

Iguodala snaked his Denver team in the playoffs a few years back, and then, not surprisingly, signed with the Warriors a few weeks later. He was allegedly tipping the Denver plays to the Warriors. Forget the fact that he’s ing done, I don’t want any of that in our locker room.

He also used the Kings to leverage for a bigger offer elsewhere. They got pissed and pulled the offer. Still, he'd likely be waived in following a trade. Next season is a team option, So his shouldn't be an issue.

[cd021]

What the are the Thunder going to do with all those picks?

Consolidate tbh. Trade 3 for 1 if they love a player high up in the lottery and let Presti work his magic

[Kurgan]

Nothing wrong with keeping the picks either. The more picks you have the higher the chance of drafting a franchise player.

[The Truth #6]

Relatively speaking, I have more confidence in Yak developing a mid range push shot then Drummond suddenly becoming a winning, productive basketball player that contributes to team success. My confidence is low for both those scenarios, to clarify, but I’d still rather roll with Yak then get involved with Drummond.

With the Spurs doing slightly better than expected, the chance of us doing a trade is LOW, unless a player revolts and wants to jump ship.