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    Nothing wrong with keeping the picks either. The more picks you have the higher the chance of drafting a franchise player.
    THe problem is, it could be up to 17 first rounders in 5 years, depending on how various other teams finish in various seasons. There’s only 15 NBA roster spots available in any season, and you must offer a first rounder a guaranteed NBA contract outlined in the CBA, or renounce their rights. They already have some prospects in the pipeline. Even if you manage to jam 15 first rounders on the roster, how do you develop #11-15? Those roster spots never play. You could send up to two of them down to the gleague, but that’s it.

    You just can’t keep the picks.

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    What the are the Thunder going to do with all those picks?
    They'll have to consolidate several of them either for moving up or for a young player they like. They may also end up trading a 1st for a first a year or two down the line to spread things out.

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    THe problem is, it could be up to 17 first rounders in 5 years, depending on how various other teams finish in various seasons. There’s only 15 NBA roster spots available in any season, and you must offer a first rounder a guaranteed NBA contract outlined in the CBA, or renounce their rights. They already have some prospects in the pipeline. Even if you manage to jam 15 first rounders on the roster, how do you develop #11-15? Those roster spots never play. You could send up to two of them down to the gleague, but that’s it.

    You just can’t keep the picks.
    Fair points but also a good problem to have. Given how valuable first round picks have become i’m sure they will figure it out.

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    Presti will likely find a way to put those picks to good use. However, disgruntled superstars looking to move to a contender on the coast likely won’t consider OKC at all. So moving up the lottery to try and get a very high pick seems like the most realistic use.

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    Heat are in win now mode. Under my proposed deal they'll get gay and LMA, and lose Robinson as their only important piece. That would secure them with a great second unit. I agree with Kings and Magic. It's not happening.
    Partially true. Riley always is to a certain extent and if he could, I don't doubt that he'd hesitate to package every notable young player/pick (sans Adebayo and possibly Robinson) for Beal or someone of that ilk.

    Short of that, they're basically trying to do what the Spurs are, which is a soft re-build.

    Whatever interest they might have in Aldridge and/or Gay, would more than likely be based on the notion of getting them for very little, as in no significant pieces.

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    Miami is not in win now mode.
    Miami is literally in win-now mode, though. As in, they don't even own their pick this season, win-now, lol. What? I'm curious on what you mean, you're not one to post without reason.

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    Spurs will only trade a vet for 1st round picks. But no one in win-now has any draft picks to trade. So highly unlikely anyone gets traded from the Spurs. If the Spurs don’t make the playoffs, they could buyout Gay or LMA to give them a shot to sign with a contender. But other than that, I see the Spurs keeping everyone and going all in with the current roster to make the playoffs.

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    35 year old hobbled big man with a contract hard to match
    Don't see the market, even for a win now team.
    Gay, I can see some interest.

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    Probably crazy to suggest but I wonder if the spurs were to look for any win now trades, even though I’m not really for that I think the spurs are one really good player away from being a contender

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    THe problem is, it could be up to 17 first rounders in 5 years, depending on how various other teams finish in various seasons. There’s only 15 NBA roster spots available in any season, and you must offer a first rounder a guaranteed NBA contract outlined in the CBA, or renounce their rights. They already have some prospects in the pipeline. Even if you manage to jam 15 first rounders on the roster, how do you develop #11-15? Those roster spots never play. You could send up to two of them down to the gleague, but that’s it.

    You just can’t keep the picks.
    The other catch is it takes several years before you know what you have

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    Probably crazy to suggest but I wonder if the spurs were to look for any win now trades, even though I’m not really for that I think the spurs are one really good player away from being a contender
    I actually agree that they’re one player away. Maybe not one player away from being a full blown contender but definitely one player away from being a relevant threat to knock a contender out of the playoffs.

    The problem is that I don’t know who that one player would be that would also be available. I don’t think Collins gets them there. You’d have to give up too much. I don’t like the idea of paying him the max either. Outside of him I don’t see much out there.

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    Spurs will only trade a vet for 1st round picks. But no one in win-now has any draft picks to trade. So highly unlikely anyone gets traded from the Spurs. If the Spurs don’t make the playoffs, they could buyout Gay or LMA to give them a shot to sign with a contender. But other than that, I see the Spurs keeping everyone and going all in with the current roster to make the playoffs.
    not making the playoffs will comedown to the final days of the regular season and play-in so no buy outs are immenent

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    not making the playoffs will comedown to the final days of the regular season and play-in so no buy outs are immenent
    I agree. I think we will have the same team finishing the season. But if the Spurs fall out of contention for some reason, then buyouts are possible.

    No reason to trade LMA and take on more salary unless Spurs get a young player they really like or a first round draft pick. That’s why my money is on no trade. DDR has a small potential to be traded, but again why trade him for anything less than a first round pick? And no team that could use him has a first rounder to spare. And why trade Gay when he is contributing and you can’t get anything for value and you don’t want to take on any salary in a trade with a vet unless it’s a young talent the Spurs want and that is close to zero likelihood.

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    Pat Riley will take Brian Wright to the back of the shed so any dealings with Miami naturally scare me.

    *edit*

    This is what that article is in reference to:

    Also LMA + Rudy for ___

    Aldridge and Gay for Iguodala, Olynyk, Leonard, Achiuwa and a 1st round pick.

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    Aldridge and Gay for Iguodala, Olynyk, Leonard, Achiuwa and a 1st round pick.
    Miami, Detroit and a bunch of other teams can't trade first round picks.

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    Miami, Detroit and a bunch of other teams can't trade first round picks.
    Not even future ones? I guess I could go for Nunn instead of a 1st rounder.

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    Not even future ones? I guess I could go for Nunn instead of a 1st rounder.
    There are multiple teams in serious first round debt. In advance, you can only trade every other year, so a team wanting to swing for the fences would, for instance trade 2021,2023,2025, but that also precludes them from trading 2022 and 2024.

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    There are multiple teams in serious first round debt. In advance, you can only trade every other year, so a team wanting to swing for the fences would, for instance trade 2021,2023,2025, but that also precludes them from trading 2022 and 2024.
    They can do pick swaps, however. That can be valuable from a poorly run team.

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    The only deal I can think of is Olynyk, Iggy, Leonard and Robinson for Gay and LMA. But eating Leonard's and Iggy contract for two years sucks. So perhaps moving Iggy to Dallas for James Johnson is an option. As for Leonard 🤷#♂️
    Spurs can't make that deal, they can only take back one an additional player if they move both Aldridge and Gay. They'd have to make it a three team deal with them moving someone like Robinson for an asset that gets rerouted back to the Spurs in addition Miami's 2027 second (their only pick asset). Then post-trade. Spurs could waive Robinson and Iggy and keep Olynyk.

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    Aldridge and Gay for Iguodala, Olynyk, Leonard, Achiuwa and a 1st round pick.
    Spurs can't trade 2 for 4 with only one additional roster spot, as well as Miami not having a first to trade.

    Best bet would a three teamer with Miami sending one of their young guns out and rerouting the pick asset to the Spurs, as well as the Heat's 2027 2nd.

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    Spurs can't make that deal, they can only take back one an additional player if they move both Aldridge and Gay. They'd have to make it a three team deal with them moving someone like Robinson for an asset that gets rerouted back to the Spurs in addition Miami's 2027 second (their only pick asset). Then post-trade. Spurs could waive Robinson and Iggy and keep Olynyk.
    I am confused what you are trying to say here.

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    I am confused what you are trying to say here.
    The Spurs can't trade Gay and Aldridge and take back Iggy, Leonard, Olynyk, and Robinson because the Spurs have only 14 roster spots and that would put us a 16 players. A trade could work it there's a 3rd team that can take one of the Heat's young players--Robinson-- for a draft pick that could be rerouted to the Spurs.

    Also, Leonard and Iggy do have team options for next season so the Spurs aren't stuck with them.

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    The Spurs can't trade Gay and Aldridge and take back Iggy, Leonard, Olynyk, and Robinson because the Spurs have only 14 roster spots and that would put us a 16 players. A trade could work it there's a 3rd team that can take one of the Heat's young players--Robinson-- for a draft pick that could be rerouted to the Spurs.

    Also, Leonard and Iggy do have team options for next season so the Spurs aren't stuck with them.
    They can do that deal if they waive Lyles to open up that needed roster spot.

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    They can do that deal if they waive Lyles to open up that needed roster spot.
    I mean Lyles or anyone else, but they wouldn't and shouldn't.

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    Spurs can't trade 2 for 4 with only one additional roster spot, as well as Miami not having a first to trade.

    Best bet would a three teamer with Miami sending one of their young guns out and rerouting the pick asset to the Spurs, as well as the Heat's 2027 2nd.
    You can add filler players from the Spurs and Nunn instead of the 1st rounder.

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