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    Who gives a about Rudy Gay lmao. Trade him. And Aldridge and DeRozan. Get 1sts and /or young talent while maintaining cap flexibility and see if you can somehow be a player in free agency even if it’s unlikely. This team isn’t going anywhere as constructed.

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    Who gives a about Rudy Gay lmao. Trade him. And Aldridge and DeRozan. Get 1sts and /or young talent while maintaining cap flexibility and see if you can somehow be a player in free agency even if it’s unlikely. This team isn’t going anywhere as constructed.
    Rudy and Aldridge have no value. They aren’t bringing back a first or a young player unless we take on a bad contract.

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    Just realized the Knicks own the Mavs first round pick this year and it's unprotected. They better start winning or they're ed.

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    Just realized the Knicks own the Mavs first round pick this year and it's unprotected. They better start winning or they're ed.
    The Unicorn isn't equaling wins. Mavs banked that those picks to the Knicks would be high in the high 20s not the potential top 10. And now with the lottery odds the way they are, it would be hilarious if that pick becomes a top 3 and the Knicks get all the benefits.

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    The Nuggets have their own pick, have a trade exception, and are in need of bench scoring. They seem like a plausible trade partner to me.

    Them, Atlanta, Boston, Hornets, Bulls, Warriors, Pacers. These are the teams I can see the Spurs trading with.
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    The Nuggets have their own pick, have a trade exception, and are in need of bench scoring. They seem like a plausible trade partner to me.

    Them, Atlanta, Boston, Hornets, Bulls, Warriors, Pacers. These are the teams I can see the Spurs trading with.
    How big is Denver's trade exception?

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    How big is Denver's trade exception?
    $9.5 mil

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    Not sure if you can add the 9.5 mil trade exception with another player's salary

    If not, then maybe something like Walker for the TPE and their first round pick. Or add Lyles in there even though I don't think they'd be interested.

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    Ah, so you can't combine it:

    "Trade exceptions cannot be combined and the Celtics can only absorb a player whose salary is equal to or lower than the individual exception. The exception also cannot be combined with a player's salary to take on a bigger contract. Boston can, however, use smaller chunks of each exception to sign multiple players and can send out additional players as part of any deal."

    I see a lot of ways Boston could be our trade partner. They just have to cough up their pick. Maybe Gay + Mills for their TPE and first round pick.

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    Ah, so you can't combine it:

    "Trade exceptions cannot be combined and the Celtics can only absorb a player whose salary is equal to or lower than the individual exception. The exception also cannot be combined with a player's salary to take on a bigger contract. Boston can, however, use smaller chunks of each exception to sign multiple players and can send out additional players as part of any deal."

    I see a lot of ways Boston could be our trade partner. They just have to cough up their pick. Maybe Gay + Mills for their TPE and first round pick.
    Patty Mills is never getting traded.

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    Patty Mills is never getting traded.
    Bro, I get it. You love Patty. "James Harden is never getting traded" is the last "Patty Mills is never getting traded" and look what happened. Did we all think TP would ever wear another team's uniform? What happened?

    Your comment will be easy to bookmark the more you repeat it. Nothing is as certain as you think it is.

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    Bro, I get it. You love Patty. "James Harden is never getting traded" is the last "Patty Mills is never getting traded" and look what happened. Did we all think TP would ever wear another team's uniform? What happened?

    Your comment will be easy to bookmark the more you repeat it. Nothing is as certain as you think it is.
    What does it have to do with whether I like a player or not? If you imagine Patty Mills will never get traded, you don't understand anything about the franchise you seem to think yourself as a fan.

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    What does it have to do with whether I like a player or not? If you imagine Patty Mills will never get traded, you don't understand anything about the franchise you seem to think yourself as a fan.
    Again, did you envision TP ever playing for another franchise? Seems you're holding Patty to a higher esteem than Tony, which is freaking weird.

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    Again, did you envision TP ever playing for another franchise? Seems you're holding Patty to a higher esteem than Tony, which is freaking weird.
    Lol, what do those situations have in common. C'mon man, don't be a ing idiot.

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    Lol, what do those situations have in common. C'mon man, don't be a ing idiot.
    Why the do you think Patty has this organization by the balls? The only ing idiot here is your dumbass. Only idiots talk in certainties. You can't predict the future, dumb .

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    The Nuggets have their own pick, have a trade exception, and are in need of bench scoring. They seem like a plausible trade partner to me.

    Them, Atlanta, Boston, Hornets, Bulls, Warriors, Pacers. These are the teams I can see the Spurs trading with.
    Maybe I'm crazy but, if NY covets DDR and thinks having his bird right give them an inside track to resigning him I could see them paying that mav pick plus filler for DDR + Lonnie.

    Edited to add: I could see them offering their own 1st instead of the man's if Lonnie isn't in the deal.

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    Why the do you think Patty has this organization by the balls? The only ing idiot here is your dumbass. Only idiots talk in certainties. You can't predict the future, dumb .
    You think the team is keeping him around out of loyalty, something owed to him? Lol. You have no ing idea how this team works on a fundamental level.

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    You think the team is keeping him around out of loyalty, something owed to him? Lol. You have no ing idea how this team works on a fundamental level.
    And you're high on recency bias, ignoring his garbage play for the first few years of contract. You're overvaluing the out of Mills just because he can score 3s in bunches. Stop talking to me as if you're some basketball guru. Newsflash wad: you're not.

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    Maybe I'm crazy but, if NY covets DDR and thinks having his bird right give them an inside track to resigning him I could see them paying that mav pick plus filler for DDR + Lonnie.

    Edited to add: I could see them offering their own 1st instead of the man's if Lonnie isn't in the deal.
    Knicks probably don’t need the bird rights unless they want to give him a fifth year or higher annual raises, because they’ll almost certainly have enough cap space to sign him. Don’t know if Demar would want to play there either. He’s a west coast guy and playing there involved an insane amount of pressure given how long suffering that fan base is.

    Spurs should move Gay and Aldridge, especially if they feel comfortable that Saminic can eat minutes with the big team (have Lyles as well). It may limit the ceiling this year, but probably was the same with or without Aldridge/Gay (play-in or maybe the 6th seed at best, and almost certainly exiting in round 1).

    I think they can get there without those two guys, and you make the move if you can get a first of any type without taking back long term salary. I don’t think they yield a first, and don’t want to throw in Walker with them just to get a first unless it’s a juicy first.

    Demar is invaluable for some of the young guys’ development and I don’t think they make the top 10 without him. Spurs should absolutely want playoff experience for development.

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    And you're high on recency bias, ignoring his garbage play for the first few years of contract. You're overvaluing the out of Mills just because he can score 3s in bunches. Stop talking to me as if you're some basketball guru. Newsflash wad: you're not.
    the problem is that Popovich overvalues Mills even more, which is why they won't trade him. He's likely to be resigned

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    the problem is that Popovich overvalues Mills even more, which is why they won't trade him. He's likely to be resigned
    And I'm saying that's what they said about Bryn Forbes.

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    Knicks probably don’t need the bird rights unless they want to give him a fifth year or higher annual raises, because they’ll almost certainly have enough cap space to sign him. Don’t know if Demar would want to play there either. He’s a west coast guy and playing there involved an insane amount of pressure given how long suffering that fan base is.

    Spurs should move Gay and Aldridge, especially if they feel comfortable that Saminic can eat minutes with the big team (have Lyles as well). It may limit the ceiling this year, but probably was the same with or without Aldridge/Gay (play-in or maybe the 6th seed at best, and almost certainly exiting in round 1).

    I think they can get there without those two guys, and you make the move if you can get a first of any type without taking back long term salary. I don’t think they yield a first, and don’t want to throw in Walker with them just to get a first unless it’s a juicy first.

    Demar is invaluable for some of the young guys’ development and I don’t think they make the top 10 without him. Spurs should absolutely want playoff experience for development.
    You may be right from our perspective (about wanting/needing ddr for playoff experience)... I think that's exactly why NY would want him too... I'm sure they'd have to have reassurances from his agent about resigning... I also don't see any room for him on the West Coast so even though he'd prefer it, it doesn't seem to be an option.

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    Look, Mills may very well be traded at some point, but I doubt it. The franchise values him on the court, clearly, but what he provides off the court is completely invaluable to them.

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    I think Rudy can garner a 1st and is the most tradable at this point. Scoring off the bench, good salary for a trade, shoots the 3, one of the best +|- per minute in the league. Plus, if it works out he likely is open to resigning a reasonable contract. That seems exactly what teams will look for to make a final push. Ideally LA fills his role.

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    Ah, so you can't combine it:

    "Trade exceptions cannot be combined and the Celtics can only absorb a player whose salary is equal to or lower than the individual exception. The exception also cannot be combined with a player's salary to take on a bigger contract. Boston can, however, use smaller chunks of each exception to sign multiple players and can send out additional players as part of any deal."

    I see a lot of ways Boston could be our trade partner. They just have to cough up their pick. Maybe Gay + Mills for their TPE and first round pick.
    I saw somewhere that BOS is hard capped due to the apron and can't take back more than about $19M in salaries. That effectively limits the TPE to $19M so they could absorb Gay or Mills but not both.

    It's too bad that DEN's TPE isn't enough to take on Gay's salary. They seem to be a bit thin at 4/5 outside of Jokic and might be panicking a bit at their slower-than-expected start. But their most tradable salaries, from the Spurs' perspective, are Millsap and Green (both PF/Cs like Gay).

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