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    Two completely different players.

    One is a big wing, the other is an athletic forward.

    Woodard has an arsenal of offensive moves, but he's slower and less explosive than Renfro.

    Renfro has better timing on blocks, better verticality, elite athleticism - Excellent lateral speed, vision, his defense is top notch.

    Woodard has potential to be an ISO go-to scorer. Reminds me of someone like Caron Butler.

    Renfro is a total team player and does all the small things. Reminds me a lot of Draymond Green.

    Thanks! Renfro checks lots of boxes of what we need, what any team needs, really.

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    Thanks! Renfro checks lots of boxes of what we need, what any team needs, really.


    Click the right arrow for the video.

    Now play the video and check out the second clip of the compilation.

    Absolutely a hound on defense.

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    We currently have a roster spot open on the big club, so, yes, he can be signed to a minimum contract at the point where it won’t put us in the tax,which should be soon.
    Beat me to it. They could sign him to a minimum deal I think. There’s currently just over $1 million of luxury tax space and I could be wrong, but think a player with no years of experience is cheaper than that over a full year (and pro-rated if signed now).

    Not sure how the incentives work on some of the other contracts and the luxury tax.

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    How is Renfro even close to an NBA contract?

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    How is Renfro even close to an NBA contract?
    He's not and that's why I think the realistic way to get him is with a two way contract. IMO, we need to part with KBD.

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    Click the right arrow for the video.

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    Absolutely a hound on defense.
    I love it. It looks like some of his skills will directly translate. Is offense the concern?

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    As far as I've seen his offensive game is almost non-existent.

    Sure, he can dunk and move the ball, but everything else is missing.

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    I love it. It looks like some of his skills will directly translate. Is offense the concern?
    He can spot up for 3's, and drive to the basket with a decent first step. Makes the extra pass for an easier shot.

    I guess as fans we ask ourselves what we expect from that position. It's fine to have role players on the team. Not everyone has to have breakdown ability or need to be counted on for offense. You only need a couple players for that.

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    As far as I've seen his offensive game is almost non-existent.

    Sure, he can dunk and move the ball, but everything else is missing.
    Is there more we need from a 4? Every team needs role players. Unless you're very limited like Poeltl, having a player who you can throw lobs to or pass to for a corner 3 has a lot of value for a team.

    The athleticism Renfro would provide would unlock a new dimension on the main team. We don't have anyone who can run with our guards.
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    Renfro is in the extreme can't shoot category for a wing 25% career 3pt shooter and 40% free throw shooter.

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    Renfro is in the extreme can't shoot category for a wing 25% career 3pt shooter and 40% free throw shooter.
    I mean, maybe we should add context to that? Kind of disingenuous not to. He's attempted barely 1.4 threes on average during his college career and just two free throw attempts average. Of course percentages would look low on very few attempts. I'm not saying I know he'll be a good shooter, but the form looks good (which he said he worked on during his rehab from an ACL tear). He looks like he had a role to play during college and it was one that didn't consist of him shooting a lot of threes.

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    For a guy who didn't go to a prestigious basketball program in college to possess the basketball IQ that he has. Not being coached by someone who is accomplished and knows their X's and O's, not having a top notch training facility... I'm just saying there could be untapped potential there.

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    He's not and that's why I think the realistic way to get him is with a two way contract. IMO, we need to part with KBD.
    KBD was a disappointment albeit the limited opportunity, but that Atlanta come back was almost a disaster. Renfro can address Spurs’ need at that size against long athletic SF/PF

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    KBD was a disappointment albeit the limited opportunity, but that Atlanta come back was almost a disaster. Renfro can address Spurs’ need at that size against long athletic SF/PF
    I had hope for him starting off, but it looks like he's suffering the DeMarre Carroll syndrome ... Just not quick enough for today's league.

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    If Renfro could knock down 3 pointers at a decent rate he would be an excellent 3&D player.

    defensively the guy is every damn where!

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    I think Refro leads the GLeague in blocks. How’s his onball defense? Do they have defensive rating for him? How does it translate in the NBA?

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    i never understood why pop refused to get a athletic big, its mind boggling. i remember going crazy when we got elson

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    i never understood why pop refused to get a athletic big, its mind boggling. i remember going crazy when we got elson
    Because it take more than athleticism? This kid we’re talking about, Renfro, is athletic, but he also understands the game. Like White, he grew late, not being much more than 5’9” in HS. He then went to JUCO, and a mid major, University of San Francisco. He has a guard’s perspective, and in spite of virtually no other pro level offense, was 3rd on the team in assists. He fills the stat sheet.

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    Because it take more than athleticism? This kid we’re talking about, Renfro, is athletic, but he also understands the game. Like White, he grew late, not being much more than 5’9” in HS. He then went to JUCO, and a mid major, University of San Francisco. He has a guard’s perspective, and in spite of virtually no other pro level offense, was 3rd on the team in assists. He fills the stat sheet.
    I've only been able to see a few highlight clips here and there, mostly of his blocks, but I'm excited to read that people here think he has some BBIQ (something Elson was never accused of) and can actually pass somewhat. If so, that would be great for the second unit.

    Is there any reason he hasn't been snatched up already? Has anyone heard any rumors et cetera...

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    I've only been able to see a few highlight clips here and there, mostly of his blocks, but I'm excited to read that people here think he has some BBIQ (something Elson was never accused of) and can actually pass somewhat. If so, that would be great for the second unit.

    Is there any reason he hasn't been snatched up already? Has anyone heard any rumors et cetera...
    He hasn’t been snatched up because of his untypical history.

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    He hasn’t been snatched up because of his untypical history.
    And he can't shoot, he's 1 for 6 free throws so far

    A tad above 40% college.

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    And he can't shoot, he's 1 for 6 free throws so far

    A tad above 40% college.
    Fortunately, we have the greatest shooting coach in the world.

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    Fortunately, we have the greatest shooting coach in the world.
    I'll admit I haven't watched him shoot, but that may beyond Chip's ability
    Is there anything about his shooting stroke that would give a hint of optimism....

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    I'll admit I haven't watched him shoot, but that may beyond Chip's ability
    Is there anything about his shooting stroke that would give a hint of optimism....
    It's nowhere near Poeltl bad. His lack of shooting is being overstated by people uninformed or people trying to spread exaggerated info. The form looks good and he looks confident shooting it. Knows how to move off-ball too.

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    We talking about a player that was not drafted so off course they are things that they will need to work on and for Nate it will be 3 ball and mid rage. But as Dejaunte likes to say he passes the eye test he has legit 6’8 height is a very athletic player meaning he can fly and he is an excellent defender. As far as offense he actually is really good at finding the open man a very smart player as his assist show, and his handles are not bad at all.

    This to me shows signs of a perfect project if as Exstatic explained Chip can work some of his magic this kid could be a real steal for us at a position of need. It will be interesting now that Luka and Tre are being pulled from G League will the Spurs start giving him more plays called to see what they really got to work with.

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