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    That's some overwraught bull .

    Nice meltdown, DMC.

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    too bad it elicited no response tbh
    one of the best trolljobs in a minute around here, tbh...

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    Supernatural phenomena? lol..
    Yes.
    Beyond science at this time. Will it stay untouchable... who knows.
    We still cant figure out a whole lot of fundamental stuff.
    Would you like me to go through the huge problem of gravity with the Standard Model?
    I dont understand the math, but I understand the basic concept.

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    That religion and science are incompatible and that the elephant in the room for America is the belief or belief claim of a supernatural god. That it affects both parties, and that pretending science denial by some is somehow a worse form of cognitive dissonance than god belief is disingenuous and cowardly.
    What a crock of .
    You cant get western religion and white christ out of your head.
    You are so narrow minded you think this is all about heaven and and some afterlife!

    Just stfu old fart.

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    Father Georges Lemaître and the Origins of the Big Bang Theory.

    http://scihi.org/george-lemaitre-big-bang-theory/

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    That religion and science are incompatible and that the elephant in the room for America is the belief or belief claim of a supernatural god. That it affects both parties, and that pretending science denial by some is somehow a worse form of cognitive dissonance than god belief is disingenuous and cowardly.
    Now it’s clear why you’re so uninterested in giving actual examples of these taboo subjects the left isn’t cool with discussing through a scientific lens. Keep it black and white. There are people on left that believe in god, so that’s enough reason to not discuss the actual product of these beliefs, particularly when it’s legislative.

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    Now it’s clear why you’re so uninterested in giving actual examples of these taboo subjects the left isn’t cool with discussing through a scientific lens. Keep it black and white. There are people on left that believe in god, so that’s enough reason to not discuss the actual product of these beliefs, particularly when it’s legislative.
    Now it's about product of the beliefs. Now we're back to value judgements, good and bad.

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    What a crock of .
    You cant get western religion and white christ out of your head.
    You are so narrow minded you think this is all about heaven and and some afterlife!

    Just stfu old fart.
    There's your IQ peeking out again, Jethro.

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    Yes.
    Beyond science at this time. Will it stay untouchable... who knows.
    We still cant figure out a whole lot of fundamental stuff.
    Would you like me to go through the huge problem of gravity with the Standard Model?
    I dont understand the math, but I understand the basic concept.
    So you know it exists and because there's a modeling issue, you have relegated it to the unknowable sky daddy.

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    That's some overwraught bull .

    Nice meltdown, DMC.
    without your tweet spam you're just a paper doll.

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    Now it's about product of the beliefs. Now we're back to value judgements, good and bad.
    Yeah. You’re the one who introduced the god belief red herring.

    It’s really the product irrespective of belief. The product, in this case legislation from the right or left, should be based on good science as much as possible, regardless of which legislators and their cons uents believes in the old man in the sky.

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    Yeah. You’re the one who introduced the god belief red herring.

    It’s really the product irrespective of belief. The product, in this case legislation from the right or left, should be based on good science as much as possible, regardless of which legislators and their cons uents believes in the old man in the sky.
    Good science? Like this?

    "It is compatible with science because they both attempt to answer very fundamental questions that we will ultimately not be able to understand."

    and this:

    "Science cannot answer whether there are phenomena we cannot possibly sense that do affect the way things work around us. That would be called supernatural."



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    without your tweet spam you're just a paper doll.
    rasping your fingers at a paper doll.

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    Good science? Like this?

    "It is compatible with science because they both attempt to answer very fundamental questions that we will ultimately not be able to understand."

    and this:

    "Science cannot answer whether there are phenomena we cannot possibly sense that do affect the way things work around us. That would be called supernatural."


    What does that have to do with me?

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    What does that have to do with me?
    Odd question since I don't recall pulling your chain.

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    Odd question since I don't recall pulling your chain.
    Really? You quoted me. Clean yourself up sloppy joe

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    There's your IQ peeking out again, Jethro.

    wonderful retort.

    there are scientists right now that believe we can understand everything about the universe. Because a number of things we have found so far work out very beautifully, almost to a beautiful perfection. This supposed perfection that a primate evolved for life on the savanna, who has invented symbolic language, can figure out. This idea of a perfection is built into many religions. This implies things can’t be messy. Which scientist throughout our history look at and say this reeks of some sort of perfect design . And that some primate evolved for surviving on mixed grass lands and trees can figure it all out?
    The fact that you think we can figure it out reeks of a perfect design. why can’t it be absolutely screwed up messy? it’s here for us to figure out? Thank you for becoming religious.

    if you can’t see where I’m headed here, I can’t help you anymore. this also stinks of a creator/force/something that has made things perfect for us? (and has nothing to do with life or death you big wad) so you can get your manly coward, afraid to die, bull out of the discussion. The universe is so perfect that an ape can figure it out...? keep going with your totally simplistic camel crap religion. DMC and his religion of Human Hubris.

    You can now go back to attacking your selected to be vulnerable white Jesus religion to make yourself comfortable.

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    Sorry I pulled you in and sucker punched you DMC.
    but you were begging for it, again.

    For DMC there is nothing in the universe, no mystery no secret of nature which can defy the power of effort and reason of this mighty primate. At least the scientists who think this admit it is a type of religion.

    Now go back to picking on Jesus and an afterlife.
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    Yeah. You’re the one who introduced the god belief red herring.

    It’s really the product irrespective of belief. The product, in this case legislation from the right or left, should be based on good science as much as possible, regardless of which legislators and their cons uents believes in the old man in the sky.
    Good science? Like this?

    "It is compatible with science because they both attempt to answer very fundamental questions that we will ultimately not be able to understand."

    and this:

    "Science cannot answer whether there are phenomena we cannot possibly sense that do affect the way things work around us. That would be called supernatural."


    What does that have to do with me?
    Odd question since I don't recall pulling your chain.
    Really? You quoted me. Clean yourself up sloppy joe
    You really are a ing idiot, aren't you?

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    wonderful retort.

    there are scientists right now that believe we can understand everything about the universe. Because a number of things we have found so far work out very beautifully, almost to a beautiful perfection. This supposed perfection that a primate evolved for life on the savanna, who has invented symbolic language, can figure out. This idea of a perfection is built into many religions. This implies things can’t be messy. Which scientist throughout our history look at and say this reeks of some sort of perfect design . And that some primate evolved for surviving on mixed grass lands and trees can figure it all out?
    The fact that you think we can figure it out reeks of a perfect design. why can’t it be absolutely screwed up messy? it’s here for us to figure out? Thank you for becoming religious.

    if you can’t see where I’m headed here, I can’t help you anymore. this also stinks of a creator/force/something that has made things perfect for us? (and has nothing to do with life or death you big wad) so you can get your manly coward, afraid to die, bull out of the discussion. The universe is so perfect that an ape can figure it out...? keep going with your totally simplistic camel crap religion. DMC and his religion of Human Hubris.

    You can now go back to attacking your selected to be vulnerable white Jesus religion to make yourself comfortable.
    Supernatural Jethro, poster child for Dunning Kruger.

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    Sorry I pulled you in and sucker punched you DMC.
    but you were begging for it, again.

    For DMC there is nothing in the universe, no mystery no secret of nature which can defy the power of effort and reason of this mighty primate. At least the scientists who think this admit it is a type of religion.

    Now go back to picking on Jesus and an afterlife.
    "I pulled you in" he says after typing a ing novella on his phone while taking a at work.

    Yeah you really showed me, Jethro. Those supernatural phenomena are really something for us to wonder about and be in awe of. We are simple humans, we cannot hope to understand the complexities of the unknown.

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    You really are a ing idiot, aren't you?
    No. Wipe the load off your dress tho.

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    No. Wipe the load off your dress tho.
    hurr durr

    Low IQ response as expected.

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    "I pulled you in" he says after typing a ing novella on his phone while taking a at work.

    Yeah you really showed me, Jethro. Those supernatural phenomena are really something for us to wonder about and be in awe of. We are simple humans, we cannot hope to understand the complexities of the unknown.
    Are we animals?

    Can you please explain how this animal gained the ability to contemplate its own existence AND work out symbolic language so that it thinks it can solve every mystery of the universe. Oh we are really close now DMC? Because its during your existence? A primate that EVOLVED for living on grassy mid forest areas somehow gains the ability to acquire these abilities because.... why? So it can mourn when others die and fear its dying. YOu will really like this one big bad guy who has given us the words we have never heard before. Like none of us have every thought about what they felt 50 million years ago (absolutely nothing, go figure that, you have broken a huge boundary with the news.)

    See the problem is you have no concept of the history of science or the slightest clue about how unlikely it is that one primate evolves these totally unique behaviors that really had no selective value at that time. Do you have any clue as to how unlikely it is to even get vertebrates when you look at all the evidence from evolution? You dont understand physics, biology, or the history of science. You are preaching a type of religion. Does science say it can solve everything to you fckn dumbass? Because of the process it uses CAN SAY NOTHING of the sort. Its not a science assertion. It fits more with religion than philosophy. So congrats. If you think there are things that are beyond science at this point then it is supernatural. You dont understand the definition. So could you please tell me how science is going to go about answering everything (and including ethical and moral questions if you wish.) The cycle right now, in your lifetime, is another model that will be revised or completely undone as new observations come in and it does not predict squat. Can you tell me what the Standard Model predicts? Can you tell me why there are currently six fundamental particles and physicists are not at all happy about this? Currently is the important word here. So when does currently end and everything is solved. What does your religion of knowing everything say about this?

    You again overstep your knowledge and have no idea what you are talking about.
    Throw some substance in with your insults, can you at least do that? Do you read about any of this?

    Just say no.
    And then keep going.
    This is fun.
    Last edited by pgardn; 02-24-2021 at 09:03 PM.

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    Are we animals?

    Can you please explain how this animal gained the ability to contemplate its own existence AND work out symbolic language so that it thinks it can solve every mystery of the universe. Oh we are really close now DMC? Because its during your existence? A primate that EVOLVED for living on grassy mid forest areas somehow gains the ability to acquire these abilities because.... why?

    See the problem is you have no concept of the history of science or the slightest clue about how unlikely it is that one primate evolves these totally unique behaviors that really had no selective value. You dont understand physics, biology, or the history of science. You are preaching a type of religion. Does science say it can solve everything to you fckn dumbass? Because the process it uses CAN SAY NOTHING of the sort. Its not a science assertion. It fits more with religion than philosophy. So congrats. If you think there are things that are beyond science at this point then it is supernatural. You dont understand the definition. So could you please tell me how science is going to go about answering everything (and including ethical and moral questions if you wish.) The cycle right now, in your lifetime, is another model that will be revised or completely undone as new observations come in and it does not predict squat. Can you tell me what the Standard Model predicts? Can you tell me why there are currently six fundamental particles and physicists are not at all happy about this? Currently is the important word here. So when does currently end and everything is solved. What does your religion of knowing everything say?

    You again overstep your knowledge and have no idea what you are talking about.
    Throw some substance in with your insults, can you at least do that? Do you read about any of this?

    Just say no. And then keep going. This is fun.
    Supernatural
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