Monastery of Luka Samanic

[ulosturedge]

Spurs just need to keep him in his element and not get him to be someone he is not. Which I think is what they are doing. I never thought he had the lateral quickness to keep up with small forwards and the likes. Now that he can do that his length is a problem for those type players. He is exactly in the KD mold. He's not gonna body anyone with post moves down low, but according to Pop he's got a natural shooting stroke. So he just needs to let those jumpers fly and do what he's best at. He's also got some moves to the rim he just needs to adjust and learn how to finish against NBA players.

[BillMc]

Scoring at home, that's the 29th pick, 29th pick, 29th pick, 11th pick, and 19th pick in 4 of 5 drafts that would comprise a starting lineup.

Still rooting for Lonnie Walker to be a buckets-giving 6th man to close out the five year draft run.

Spurs have been drafting and developing really well. Even Kyle, taken one year before the range you mention, was like the 30th pick and is still an NBA rotation player. It's quite a streak.

[Dejounte]

Haven't re-watched it myself. If true, then holding the fort on an all-star like that is truly impressive.

[BillMc]

Spurs just need to keep him in his element and not get him to be someone he is not. Which I think is what they are doing. I never thought he had the lateral quickness to keep up with small forwards and the likes. Now that he can do that his length is a problem for those type players. He is exactly in the KD mold. He's not gonna body anyone with post moves down low, but according to Pop he's got a natural shooting stroke. So he just needs to let those jumpers fly and do what he's best at. He's also got some moves to the rim he just needs to adjust and learn how to finish against NBA players.

Yep, I called him a homeless man's KD recently. May have to upgrade that to a slightly impoverished man's KD.

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If he keeps this up i will gladly sign this and eat
my crow.

Or perhaps instead of shooting from the hip and asking for forgiveness later, some of you folks could chill the out on 19 year old kids and let the coaches do their thing.

Furthermore, perhaps some of you guys could stop treating all the ppl that have bad games like horrible humans in need of ridicule?

In other words, perhaps some ppl just need to grow the up and stop clowning yourselves and showing your ass to the world.

Just a thought.

[flox]

After tonight I'm super excited for him. Hope he continues this effort.

[The Truth #6]

How many les between them?

I think that’s oversimplifying things drastically, which is the trend for this thread. In an organization like the Spurs, with ownership, FO, and the coach all working synergistically and making smart moves with a transcendental player like Tim Duncan, those players all could have a won a le here. Mills has a ring. You think he’s better than Paul or Nash? Obviously, that’s silly.

[mo7888]

I think that’s oversimplifying things drastically, which is the trend for this thread. In an organization like the Spurs, with ownership, FO, and the coach all working synergistically and making smart moves with a transcendental player like Tim Duncan, those players all could have a won a le here. Mills has a ring. You think he’s better than Paul or Nash? Obviously, that’s silly.

No and Robert Horry isn't better than Timmy even though he has more rings....the point is how do those guys careers compare to the spurs we currently have.... the argument that the finished product of these players aren't overrated but our current crop of kids are overrated is just as silly.... in SA players are judged by winning les (fair or not)... and our guys are just beginning their careers..

[Dejounte]

I think that’s oversimplifying things drastically, which is the trend for this thread. In an organization like the Spurs, with ownership, FO, and the coach all working synergistically and making smart moves with a transcendental player like Tim Duncan, those players all could have a won a le here. Mills has a ring. You think he’s better than Paul or Nash? Obviously, that’s silly.

One can argue that most, if not all, of those point guards I listed were placed in the perfect situation such as the Spurs, they would not have thrived. They each had a flaw that prevented them from going far. Let's look:

Baron Davis - Injury prone
Gilbert Arenas - Locker room cancer
Derrick Rose - Injury prone
Steve Francis - Me-ball/ the Westbrook before Westbrook
Steve Nash - Traffic cone defense, style of offense doesn't equal wins in playoffs
Chris Paul - Hype from draft position led to teams giving a huge chunk of their cap space to Paul, making it difficult to put a team around him
Mike Bibby - Didn't have the clutch gene
Stephon Marbury - Didn't follow Marbury
Deron Williams - Same as Chris Paul above
Gary Payton - Didn't follow Gary

[The Truth #6]

No and Robert Horry isn't better than Timmy even though he has more rings....the point is how do those guys careers compare to the spurs we currently have.... the argument that the finished product of these players aren't overrated but our current crop of kids are overrated is just as silly.... in SA players are judged by winning les (fair or not)... and our guys are just beginning their careers..

It’s an interesting conversation for sure. I don’t think we’re actually disagreeing, just stressing different points.

[KobesAchilles]

This explains why Luka is balling. KobeAchilles strikes again, told you you should start calling Lonnie a scrub, stop defending him if you want him to be good.

You have this weird fascination with me saying Lonnie was a scrub when I was literally the only one defending lonnie by saying Pop ruined his development last year. All I said negative about Lonnie is that he has no dog and he doesn't.

Also I rather have Matt Bonner than Luka right now tbh

[Mr. Body]

Haven't re-watched it myself. If true, then holding the fort on an all-star like that is truly impressive.

Randle was getting frustrated. Now, Randle is a guy I like -- he's not the most talented, but he's busted his ass and has gotten really good. He's not an impossible cover, but these were great possessions. I'm as impressed with Samanic staying in front of Harden the night before. Harden started figuring out he could body Luka, but Luke stayed in front of him really well.

[Dejounte]

You have this weird fascination with me saying Lonnie was a scrub when I was literally the only one defending lonnie by saying Pop ruined his development last year. All I said negative about Lonnie is that he has no dog and he doesn't.

Also I rather have Matt Bonner than Luka right now tbh

Luka Samanic will become a superstar, confirmed.

[look_at_g_shred]

Randle was getting frustrated. Now, Randle is a guy I like -- he's not the most talented, but he's busted his ass and has gotten really good. He's not an impossible cover, but these were great possessions. I'm as impressed with Samanic staying in front of Harden the night before. Harden started figuring out he could body Luka, but Luke stayed in front of him really well.

He also had some moments defensively against Zion/Ingram on Sat iirc

[KobesAchilles]

Luka Samanic will become a superstar, confirmed.

In today's era, Matt Bonner would've been really damn good He effectively shuts down rim protectors by hitting 3s at like 45%

Also Luka IS a superstar. Just not our Luka

[Dejounte]

In today's era, Matt Bonner would've been really damn good He effectively shuts down rim protectors by hitting 3s at like 45%

Also Luka IS a superstar. Just not our Luka

Yes....YESSSSS.....YES!!!!!!!!!!

Keep it coming, KobesAchilles.



Keep feeding us your takes. Please keep going...

[KobesAchilles]

Yes....YESSSSS.....YES!!!!!!!!!!

Keep it coming, KobesAchilles.



Keep feeding us your takes. Please keep going...

Well unfortunately I said the Spurs would finish with the 2 seed

[ceperez]

The net doesn't even move when he hits the 3.

[Dejounte]

The net doesn't even move when he hits the 3.

The sad part is, this video doesn't capture his phenomenal man to man defense. We need more dedicated Spurs fans to do proper highlight videos... y'all are slacking.

[ceperez]

The sad part is, this video doesn't capture his phenomenal man to man defense. We need more dedicated Spurs fans to do proper highlight videos... y'all are slacking.

I agree. Luka stays on the floor if he can guard nimble 4s.

[rankingtear]

In today's era, Matt Bonner would've been really damn good He effectively shuts down rim protectors by hitting 3s at like 45%

Also Luka IS a superstar. Just not our Luka

Not really there are a lot more lumbering bigs that can't closeout during his playing days than the modern era.

[Dejounte]

Bro, this is Kawhi-level right here. He's just not quick enough (yet) to chase after loose balls after he's poked them away. Not sure he'll get there, really rare for bigs to be that quick to chase after loose balls. But his length is a terror for opposing players in the same mold as Kawhi.

[KobesAchilles]

Not really there are a lot more lumbering bigs that can't closeout during his playing days than the modern era.

I mean if someone as slow as LMA can get off 4 three pointers a game I'm sure Bonner would be able to as well. Our system is really well designed in getting guys open looks when it is spaced and ran properly. It's how Danny Green made a living and then fell off a cliff once Tony did

[PrimeMinister]

I’ve weighed in on Luka plenty. A few weeks ago I said I am confident he will be a more valuable player than Brandon Clarke is now in 2 years when Luka is 23.

And y’all just don’t know what you’re watching apparently. Luka was horrible at help defense, but you can’t point to many plays, last year included, where he was bad at man defense. If you don’t watch or know anything about the European game you wouldn’t understand.

And none of this excuses all of the Euro trash, soft Euro stiff posting by trashy, Trump supporting racist spurstalk posters like Dejounte, who is the biggest front running ass on this board.

Bro, this is Kawhi-level right here. He's just not quick enough (yet) to chase after loose balls after he's poked them away. Not sure he'll get there, really rare for bigs to be that quick to chase after loose balls. But his length is a terror for opposing players in the same mold as Kawhi.

Early on in his minutes he surprised Randle with his strength, realized he wouldn’t be able to body his way into the restricted area against him and tried going to the face up game more resulting in this. Once Julius lowered his shoulder on the drive and then fouled Drew in the open court - it was clear he was in his head.

Not bad for another lazy euro prospect with no motor or dog in him, tbh. Bringing his gleague “man amongst boys” presence to the big show.

[mo7888]

It’s an interesting conversation for sure. I don’t think we’re actually disagreeing, just stressing different points.

I agree with that..