ok, man.
you can catch up in your own time, i won't hold your hand any further.
https://rbnenergy.com/cold-as-ice-ga...ad-freeze-offs
What he posted was about wellheads, and what you posted about was about the pipelines after that wellhead gas was aggregated.
It's almost as if you don't really give a what is true or not, just want to pwn a lib.
The intellectual rot of modern conservatism in a nuts . For your education.
Link, because I do care: about the truth, and want to provide you the courtesy:
https://rbnenergy.com/cold-as-ice-ga...ad-freeze-offs
Here is a picture of a wellhead heater:
Please notice it requires electricity to run.
chicken/egg power outages killed the gas supply.
Did they even have heaters?Here is a picture of a wellhead heater:
Please notice it requires electricity to run.
chicken/egg power outages killed the gas supply.
It absolutely does freeze at the right pressure and low temp (as methane hydrate)
Freezing point of almost all substances is different at differing pressures.
We have natural gas frozen at the bottom of many deep ocean spots.
What exactly caused the lack of flow of natural gas thru pipes or well heads may be more complex.
Last edited by pgardn; 03-05-2021 at 02:54 PM.
Kind of academic. Natural gas freezes at -295 degrees F.
AT what pressure? Normal atmospheric?
The gas in lines is pressurized.
thats like saying you shouldnt blame windmills because the air doesnt freeze
Doubt it highly.
Would have taken money to do, given the profit motive, and price squeezes, it seems an easy thing to pass on.
yup. As noted in the 2011 report that the Republican government ignored.Here is a picture of a wellhead heater:
Please notice it requires electricity to run.
chicken/egg power outages killed the gas supply.
“Can’t unscramble the egg”
Translation: the egg got cooked the way we designed it to be.
But the pseudo-scientist yapper pgardn wants to "yabut" you with some stupid about freezing natural gas. I guess he thinks the freeze was a cryogenic level, absolute zero event. Anything to score some dignity after that fest about the supernatural I suppose.
It's not like that at all.
Pressurized gas has a lower freezing point. Dropping the pressure drops the temperature of the gas. Gas will heat as it's compressed. but then you knew this because God told you.
nobody said anything about *frozen natural gas* that I recall.
as I recall the issue, as referred to in an article or two upstream and repeated by me a few posts back, was "freezing at the wellhead" preventing delivery. I didn't say natural gas froze; nor did anyone else, I think.
lol @ the ongoing attempt to unhorse a phantom rider. you fellas must still be tender from all the whippings.
Jesus DMC is butthurt
Another reason Texas cannot have nice things.
The Big Texas Freeze Doesn't Bode Well For EV Infrastructure
When Winter Storm Uri swept through Texas, the whole state shut down. Electricity was hit-or-miss for several days, with certain areas of the state (read: lower-income areas) hit the hardest. And that doesn’t bode well for introducing electric vehicles on a wider scale.
Austin, the state capitol of Texas, has spent the last two decades budgeting $650 million for electric buses and a charging facility for 187 of those vehicles, Reuters reports. In 2022, if Austin needs to buy a vehicle, it’s going to buy an electric one. But city officials certainly didn’t plan or a winter storm to render those buses essentially inoperable because they couldn’t be charged. If there’s ever a surge in demand for power again in the future, the whole city could suffer.
There are, of course, variables here. Most drivers of battery-powered electric vehicles reported that they didn’t have any charging issues during the rolling blackouts, according to PlugShare. But those drivers also generally also had a non-BEV, road conditions were so bad that fewer people needed to drive anywhere, and EVs still aren’t accessible to everyone. The process of building an electric car is currently more expensive than building an ICE-equipped vehicle, and many EVs are still new, which means they necessarily cost most than, say, the beater you bought because it runs exactly long enough to get you to work. EVs are still currently a rich people thing.
But Austin’s introduction of fully-electric vehicles as being the sole means of city-sponsored transport raises problems. Buses are on the road longer than most cars are, and folks in underprivileged areas rely on public transport as their main means of getting around. If there’s another week where power is consistently failing—but where grocery store and food service workers are still expected to clock in—then Texas could see even bigger problems than the ones it’s already facing. And that's not even taking into consideration the fact that a grid failure this large cost lives; its impact on transportation was one of the smaller concerns.
And this isn’t a problem specific to Texas, although Texas’ decision to remain on a power grid separate from other states certainly exacerbated the problem. Power grids across the country have been overtaxed for years. The switch to EVs will ultimately require grids to be taxed even further as a result of a more robust charging infrastructure. A multi-million dollar investment in EVs will require a multi-billion dollar investment in infrastructure to ensure the country keeps functioning.
It is, unfortunately, a problem that local, state, and federal officials are going to need to tackle before we can even consider going carbon-free.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news...?ocid=msedgntp
Jackson, Mississippi is still under a boil notice
https://mississippitoday.org/2021/03...heir-distance/
Because Texas is on a separate grid obviously.. duh
Same storm that hit us, menso.
lol at the misfired humor
Gas in lines get hotter that are exposed to COLD AIR have heat removed from them and become cold. The pressure then decreases because the gas is moving slower due to heat transfer. But the gas concentration is still high. You, dumb , don’t understand the full picture.
Gas does freeze at high pressure AND REMOVING HEAT.
How in the fck could gas molecules freeze and become a solid if the molecules where not CLOSE together ie under pressure.
You stepped in again old man.
Go on with this. This is about the 10th time I have had to shut your mouth on something dealing with science Dr. DKreuger.
Last edited by pgardn; 03-07-2021 at 11:36 AM.
This is the whole reason they needed heat at the wells.
Hot concentrated high pressure gas can become cold. Yes the pressure drops but it’s still a dense gas. Gas that is cold and dense can freeze.
Kind of like your the hot air that comes out of your mouth as you take another L.
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