psychological signature of extremists

[Winehole23]

I'm arguing with a guy who lives by the paraphrase. Mind your business, Winehole Deux

It’s an open forum, I’ll continue to reply to whatever I want. If you want to have a private conversation, go private.

[DMC]

It’s an open forum, I’ll continue to reply to whatever I want. If you want to have a private conversation, go private.

Then deal with it.

[Blake]

this was your claim based on the CNN article. i then asked if your argument is that american muslims are conservative and you said "you wish"

which raises the question of what point you were trying to make. i asked you to clarify that and you threw a hissy fit

were you trying to claim that american muslims are conservative? were you trying to argue that american muslims are fundamentalist? i have no clue

IT'S NOT DMC WHO DOESN'T GET IT. IT'S EVERYONE ELSE IN THE ECHO CHAMBER.

[Winehole23]

Then deal with it.

I'm dealing just fine, post whatever you want. You're the one begging me to stop.

[DMC]

I'm dealing just fine, post whatever you want. You're the one begging me to stop.

Public forum but now i need your permission.

[Winehole23]

Public forum but now i need your permission.

You seem to have a crossed wire, I've imposed no requirements on you.

[DMC]

this was your claim based on the CNN article. i then asked if your argument is that american muslims are conservative and you said "you wish"

which raises the question of what point you were trying to make. i asked you to clarify that and you threw a hissy fit

were you trying to claim that american muslims are conservative? were you trying to argue that american muslims are fundamentalist? i have no clue

You think in bifurcated terms. You'll never understand that way.

A person can be conservative by nature and still support a liberal party if that liberal party offers things that conservative person wants. Unless you think the only thing that makes a Fundamentalist Muslim conservative is the hijab, then what are you suggesting changes within the Muslim household and psyche (and religion) to go from conservatism to the overwhelming support for the democratic party?

I am a conservative person but I still vote democrat sometimes depending on what's at stake, what is offered.

So again, without regressing into your s of caveats and fine print disclaimers, what did you mean when you said Fundamentalist Muslims are a conservative movement? What is the movement?

[DMC]

You seem to have a crossed wire, I've imposed no requirements on you.

So when I say "mind your own business" that automatically illustrates begging but you reserve the right to be interpreted honestly?

no, dip

[spurraider21]

You think in bifurcated terms. You'll never understand that way.

A person can be conservative by nature and still support a liberal party if that liberal party offers things that conservative person wants. Unless you think the only thing that makes a Fundamentalist Muslim conservative is the hijab, then what are you suggesting changes within the Muslim household and psyche (and religion) to go from conservatism to the overwhelming support for the democratic party?

I am a conservative person but I still vote democrat sometimes depending on what's at stake, what is offered.

So again, without regressing into your s of caveats and fine print disclaimers, what did you mean when you said Fundamentalist Muslims are a conservative movement? What is the movement?

is your beef that i said movement instead of ideology or mentality or worldview?

[Winehole23]

So when I say "mind your own business" that automatically illustrates begging but you reserve the right to be interpreted honestly?

no, dip

I reserved no rights whatsoever, but even if I did you wouldn't respect them.

I'm not sure why you consider my offhand comment to another poster about your MO an interruption of your convo with sr21, but it's not surprising. Lately you seem to be having some trouble following threads and the basic meaning of what people say in them.

[Winehole23]

you also seem to be having some trouble "fetching" your own point.

[DMC]

I reserved no rights whatsoever, but even if I did you wouldn't respect them.

I'm not sure why you consider my offhand comment to another poster about your MO an interruption of your convo with sr21, but it's not surprising. Lately you seem to be having some trouble following threads and the basic meaning of what people say in them.

Sorry this is happening to you.

[DMC]

is your beef that i said movement instead of ideology or mentality or worldview?

You attempted to tie conservatism to terrorism and failed miserably, and have been doing damage control since with this song and dance.

Step up your troll game son.

[Winehole23]

Sorry this is happening to you.

The issue is what seems to be happening to you, to be honest.

They all say that the mind starts to go at a certain point, what they don't tell you is, you won't miss it very much.

[spurraider21]

You attempted to tie conservatism to terrorism and failed miserably, and have been doing damage control since with this song and dance.

Step up your troll game son.

no. i said that religious fundamentalists, including muslim fundamentalists, are conservative. i then specified both through examples and then expressly that i was referring to social conservatism

terrorism can be inspired by conservatism, liberalism, or leftism. just another strawman

[ChumpDumper]

why does DMC keep trying the straw men expecting them to work?

[Winehole23]

why does DMC keep trying the straw men expecting them to work?

Blunt attempt to save face in the eyes of the derp crew and the rest of the board. He's gotta know it won't work on sr21.

[Winehole23]

or, DMC is honestly confused by the plain meaning of what sr21 is saying, even when it's spelled out for him. or DMC has decided that sr21 "really" means something besides what he has actually said, and that therefore we should accept DMC's tendentious rephrasing instead of what sr21 says for himself.

[Winehole23]

(it is kind of derp-like)

[DMC]

The issue is what seems to be happening to you, to be honest.

They all say that the mind starts to go at a certain point, what they don't tell you is, you won't miss it very much.

Like that will ever happen

[DMC]

Fundamentalist Islam and maga are both very conservative movements

no. i said that religious fundamentalists, including muslim fundamentalists, are conservative. i then specified both through examples and then expressly that i was referring to social conservatism

terrorism can be inspired by conservatism, liberalism, or leftism. just another strawman

Again, how is fundamentalist Islam a conservative movement? How do you get there in a thread about extremists?

So not wanting to be told what to do, like wearing masks or owning guns or what you can or cannot say, that's inline with Muslim Fundamentalism, Islam, which literally means to submission to the will of God?

Thread le is "psychological signature of extremists". You tied extremists to Fundamentalists and from there to conservatives in the US, all the while ignoring that those same fundamentalist Muslims vote democrat in the US. You cannot wrap your mind around how that s on your initial comparison.

[spurraider21]

Again, how is fundamentalist Islam a conservative movement? How do you get there in a thread about extremists?

So not wanting to be told what to do, like wearing masks or owning guns or what you can or cannot say, that's inline with Muslim Fundamentalism, Islam, which literally means to submission to the will of God?

Thread le is "psychological signature of extremists". You tied extremists to Fundamentalists and from there to conservatives in the US, all the while ignoring that those same fundamentalist Muslims vote democrat in the US. You cannot wrap your mind around how that s on your initial comparison.

is your beef that i said movement instead of ideology or mentality or worldview?

[DMC]

What ideologies do MAGA folks have? What is their worldview?

Contrast that with fundamentalist Muslims. Do MAGA folks want their own version of Sharia? Do they want the Sabbath to be enforced by law, to punish adulterers, to legislate honoring mother and father? Have they voted for a religious leader?

[spurraider21]

What ideologies do MAGA folks have? What is their worldview?

Contrast that with fundamentalist Muslims. Do MAGA folks want their own version of Sharia? Do they want the Sabbath to be enforced by law, to punish adulterers, to legislate honoring mother and father? Have they voted for a religious leader?

i'll ask you 2 yes/no questions

are "maga people" socially conservative?

are fundamentalist muslims socially conservative?

no need to actually answer, we already know

[DMC]

i'll ask you 2 yes/no questions

are "maga people" socially conservative?

are fundamentalist muslims socially conservative?

no need to actually answer, we already know

Define "socially conservative" and use the same definition for both groups

Americans, by default, are extremely liberal compared to Sharia mongers. So calling Americans socially conservative (in relation to the American left) is quite different than calling Fundamentalist Muslims socially conservative (in relation to the American left).

Where along the spectrum of social conservatism do these two groups fall? You'd have me believe they fall on top of each other, like a single point.

What were the MAGA platform talking points?

To bring back the economy, boost jobs, protect US trade interests, and to continue with hard-line stance on immigration.

Which of those are about social conservatism?