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    If your definition is true contender status, no. But every path is highly unlikely to yield that and the Spurs, like I'm sure every franchise in a non glamour market, would be thrilled if they could reach a tier below. It'd be unlikely they'd even reach that status, but not inconceivable.
    if you think I made any assertion the spurs are a true contender, I’d re read the posts

    can they make a bid for the 6 seed when they have Vassell, White, Keldon at full strength with the team as built? I think that much is abundantly clear. I’d be wary of treadmilling in that position when we are building positive momentum in the draft.

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    Given this

    https://basketball.realgm.com/wireta...Victor-Oladipo

    Do you think the warriors could be interested in a Derozan trade as an alternative? Derozan is (IMO) a better player... And possibly fits better with their trade assets.

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    Given this

    https://basketball.realgm.com/wireta...Victor-Oladipo

    Do you think the warriors could be interested in a Derozan trade as an alternative? Derozan is (IMO) a better player... And possibly fits better with their trade assets.
    I know you didn't mention him, but if I read one more Wiseman-to-the-Spurs post I'm going to throw my phone.

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    Maybe look first at the prospects before you call it deep. It's looking like a ty draft past the 10th.
    there’s enough intriguing talent at positions of need for us that im willing for all intents and purposes to call this draft “deep” relative to previous years or the average

    is it exceptional? No. But there’s talent to be found in the teens and into the 20s.

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    Given this

    https://basketball.realgm.com/wireta...Victor-Oladipo

    Do you think the warriors could be interested in a Derozan trade as an alternative? Derozan is (IMO) a better player... And possibly fits better with their trade assets.
    I don’t really want to trade ddr (I'd prefer to buy and improve now) but, that Minny 1st would be tempting.

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    Maybe look first at the prospects before you call it deep. It's looking like a ty draft past the 10th.
    Come on DJ your forgetting our boy "KARL FRANZ WAGNER"

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    if you think I made any assertion the spurs are a true contender, I’d re read the posts

    can they make a bid for the 6 seed when they have Vassell, White, Keldon at full strength with the team as built? I think that much is abundantly clear. I’d be wary of treadmilling in that position when we are building positive momentum in the draft.
    Nah, that was in reference to your query of whether Vucevic "materially changes our team in the long run".

    My assertion is he would in the hypothetical I detailed. They'd be more likely to be a 6 seed (one with a point differential indicating they're legit) and a chance to win a round if they received a favorable matchup (non L.A. team).

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    Nah, that was in reference to your query of whether Vucevic "materially changes our team in the long run".

    My assertion is he would in the hypothetical I detailed. They'd be more likely to be a 6 seed (one with a point differential indicating they're legit) and a chance to win a round if they received a favorable matchup (non L.A. team).
    Only thing I want to say here because I think for the most part we are on the same page- with point diff and some of the net rating and on/off stats, I kinda look at the team from pre-Jakob and post-Jakob lens. The last game LA started on 2/1 was the grizzlies drubbing where we dropped 31 points in one game. Since then they’ve at least had a positive point differential at +2.1 per game and that includes games where the rotation was decimated by covid absences.

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    Due diligence, nothing more. Spurs probably just seeing what the cost is. The guy is a good player, no doubt. But he's 30 and he can't lift his team to contention, so why trade young talent for a guy that is at best a 2 on a championship team? At 30, you will be in a rush to surround him with talent and no guarantee that you can get the one to make it worth acquiring him as your number two. My guess is the Spurs were looking to see what they could get for as little as they wanted to give up. But asking for multiple young players and draft picks for that dude? Nope. Bigs aren't that important and I'd rather just see what we have with Luka before I trade for a duplicative big man that is 30.

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    Mills, Gay and Walker for Vucevic. They get a young athletic prospect on his rookie deal and get cap relief with expiring deals.

    http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y9kkeqrw

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    This should close the thread. No way spurs are giving up a haul for Vuj. All y’all’s trades that include spurs trash for someone who Orlando apparently thinks is a an All NBAer were never gonna work.

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    I don’t think Jeff Garcia is much of a credible source lol he’s just throwing stuff out there, nobody expects the spurs to trade either White or Murray

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    I don’t think Jeff Garcia is much of a credible source lol he’s just throwing stuff out there, nobody expects the spurs to trade either White or Murray
    The way this FO has operated the past few years outside their ability to draft, other teams prolly think they can get Murray and White for a conditional 2nd rounder.

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    Lol @ trading for Vooch.

    No more treadmill players.

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    Lol @ trading for Vooch.

    No more treadmill players.
    he could be an important piece on a championship team tbh. also isn't a diva. great contract too.

    would be great to start the retooling process since making the playoffs is important to the spurs.

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    This should close the thread. No way spurs are giving up a haul for Vuj. All y’all’s trades that include spurs trash for someone who Orlando apparently thinks is a an All NBAer were never gonna work.
    lol Murray is better than their entire roster. This rumour is bull . We all have our panties in a bunch with excitement but lets be real; when was the last time the Spurs leaked interest in a player and something went down? Never. Especially not during the Pop era.

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    he could be an important piece on a championship team tbh. also isn't a diva. great contract too.

    would be great to start the retooling process since making the playoffs is important to the spurs.
    if your center is below average/borderline liability territory defensively and his name isn't Nikola Jokic, he will never be a piece on a championship team, tbh.

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    if your center is below average/borderline liability territory defensively and his name isn't Nikola Jokic, he will never be a piece on a championship team, tbh.
    i'd start him at the 4, he's quick for his size. but also have been play the 5 at different times during the game.

    vooch starting with a defensive 5.

    i'm not afraid to go big like everyone else is.

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    would be a fan favorite in no time.

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    not like the spurs can go out there and trade for a lebron, kawhi, durant level player anyways. or have a chance at signing one.

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    Sucks for Vucevic. One of the tiest franchises in professional sports and this is the price they're setting for him.

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    https://www.reddit.com/r/OrlandoMagi...m_source=share

    Magic fans apparently like our young talent, specifically Vassell...
    Nope. Not for anyone on their roster.

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    i'd start him at the 4, he's quick for his size. but also have been play the 5 at different times during the game.

    vooch starting with a defensive 5.

    i'm not afraid to go big like everyone else is.
    you’re not a serious person

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    Over the last 11 games the Spurs have the #1 opp fg % and the highest net fg% with a +1.7. That is the epitome of Spurs Basketball. They are not going to do something to screw that up.

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